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Poll: Will Trevor improve to be our guy where we give him a 2nd contract and be a top 10 QB?
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Yes
42.44%
73 42.44%
No
57.56%
99 57.56%
Total 172 vote(s) 100%
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Will Trevor figure it out and be our franchise QB?


(11-10-2022, 05:57 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-10-2022, 05:48 PM)Caldrac Wrote: He had similar performances this year. The road win in L.A and the home opener against the clots as well. I think we'll see more of that as he continues to develop and learn this system with Pederson and they become more comfortable and familiar with what they both see philosophically. 

Ideally, his game at the moment should be just like he did in those wins, including that road loss to the clots. He needs to use his legs and be opportunistic about it. Especially in the red zone where he could have done that instead of forcing a pass that resulted in a turnover. 

He's also a rhythm passer and the more he's on the move and outside of the pocket it seems like he oddly becomes more accurate. The biggest thing he needs to work on is climbing the pocket instead of drifting backwards when things begin to break down and he needs to get his mechanics shored up to his deep pass attempts more accurately and cleanly. 

I think he's damn near there man. I really do. He has to chain a few more of these performances together but it would CERTAINLY help going into next year with bigger, faster and stronger receivers on the outside and a giant security blanket at the TE position. 

Ridley with Kirk and Jones sounds great on paper. Especially if you sprinkle in a little Agnew when he's healthy and when they decide to actually LINE UP Etienne in the passing game. I think we're going to miss Marvin Jones next year though. Him and Lawrence click in critical situations. One of the current guys, probably Kirk, ends up being that guy next year for him. BUT, they still need to get him a giant option on the outside. 

I hope they resign Engram as well. He's been clicking with Lawrence in just eight or nine games this year. Would be scary what they could with another off season together with big additions made offensively. I think these types of games should be his floor and then his max games are going to be those deep shots he makes more often, he's going to limit that critical mistake and flip it for a TD, he's going to use his legs more and escape and run for it when it's there, etc.

Some of his passes last week were really impressive.  Like the one where he avoided a sack in the end zone and completed a pass to the sideline.  Not many QBs can make that play.  

It's weird.  Some games he's extremely accurate, and some games he's extremely inaccurate.
It’s almost like…. He’s a young QB learning! Who woulda thought!

Ups and downs is normal but if you watch these games and think he’s not the answer, then you don’t know what you’re watching.

First time he’s had NFL coaching. First time in a real offense. First time being in a locker room that doesn’t have a coach throwing everyone under the sun under the bus. 

In year 2, there was a stretch where Burrow didn’t play well. Weeks 9-15, he only had one multi TD week. Then he exploded. It takes time.
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(11-10-2022, 01:03 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(11-10-2022, 12:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Trevor Lawrence in 2022 is on pace for a season that would end with:

3920 yards passing
290 yards rushing
21 passing TDs
6 rushing TDs 
11 INTs
64.3% comp rate

Here is where he would rank in each of those categories compared to 2021 passing leaders rankings

12th
10th
16th
3rd
17th
22nd

The kid is clearly trending in the right direction.
As he grows in this offense these numbers and corresponding rankings will improve.
Finding some consistency from week to week is his next big hurdle and he seems primed to clear it.
He's come out of a recent dip in performance with a come from behind victory that showed some real grit.
Very excited to see how he handles the stretch after the bye-week and closes out the season.

I agree he's been much better this year than last year. A lot of his issue is just situational, and a bit of inaccuracy. Obviously 21 td 10 int isn't a good season by any means but compared to last year it's obviously showing that he can improve. 

I think next year with Ridley and a few other additions we will either see that we have a guy, or we wont. But we should know next season for sure. Looking fairly possitive atm tho.

I think he's at a point where it's mainly consistency he needs to work on. He's shown occasionally that he can play very well for stretches, he needs to prove now that he can do that game in and game out. Hell, he needs to do it from quarter to quarter. Then we'll know we have a franchise QB.
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The answer is the same as it was a month ago when this thread was made..

Yes.
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If you took away the goal line INTs against HOU and DEN then I would be thrilled with his play so far in year two. We would likely have 2 more wins if that were the case as well. He’s getting there. He’s our guy.
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(11-10-2022, 06:22 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(11-10-2022, 01:03 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: I agree he's been much better this year than last year. A lot of his issue is just situational, and a bit of inaccuracy. Obviously 21 td 10 int isn't a good season by any means but compared to last year it's obviously showing that he can improve. 

I think next year with Ridley and a few other additions we will either see that we have a guy, or we wont. But we should know next season for sure. Looking fairly possitive atm tho.

I think he's at a point where it's mainly consistency he needs to work on. He's shown occasionally that he can play very well for stretches, he needs to prove now that he can do that game in and game out. Hell, he needs to do it from quarter to quarter. Then we'll know we have a franchise QB.

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(This post was last modified: 11-10-2022, 11:13 PM by OzJohnnie. Edited 1 time in total.)

As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.
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(11-10-2022, 11:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.
The raiders have a 31 week schedule??
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(11-10-2022, 11:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.

So he does well against bad defenses, and not so well against good defenses.  Like every other QB in the league.
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(11-11-2022, 08:43 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-10-2022, 11:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.

So he does well against bad defenses, and not so well against good defenses.  Like every other QB in the league.

Exactly.
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(11-11-2022, 08:43 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-10-2022, 11:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.

So he does well against bad defenses, and not so well against good defenses.  Like every other QB in the league.

What kind of moron are you? Good quarterbacks play badly against bad defenses and then have their big games against good defenses. Kind of like Tom Brady vs the saints.
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I mean - we can play this silly game both ways:

Trevor threw for 263 yards and 3 TDs against the bolts who are the 8th best defense in passing yards allowed.
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WILLIAM IS MY QB!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ht4oVdaXc
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(10-10-2022, 08:01 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Let's put all the back and forth to bed.  Will Trev and Doug figure it out and will he finally become our franchise QB?

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...vj9pPPo8Dg

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...vj9pPPo8Dg

I want to hear from the 99 clowns who voted "no" in this poll.

LOL
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(11-27-2022, 08:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-10-2022, 08:01 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Let's put all the back and forth to bed.  Will Trev and Doug figure it out and will he finally become our franchise QB?

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...vj9pPPo8Dg

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...vj9pPPo8Dg

I want to hear from the 99 clowns who voted "no" in this poll.

LOL

Dude. It's one game that took a couple of miracles to happen for the win.

If you're judging him by his entire body of work as a starter, he doesn't look too good.

The Texans are winless this season except against us. TLaw threw 2 INTs in that game and had no TDs. The offense only managed 2 FGs.
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(10-10-2022, 06:09 PM)TownCenterJag Wrote: Yes


Yes
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(10-10-2022, 08:46 AM)cincyjacket Wrote: I'd like to see us draft a QB with our first or second pick in the next draft. Not giving up on TLaw, but I think he needs motivation to improve.
HAHAHAHA

LOOOOOOSSSEEEEERRRRRR
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(11-27-2022, 08:46 PM)cincyjacket Wrote:
(11-27-2022, 08:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...vj9pPPo8Dg

https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...vj9pPPo8Dg

I want to hear from the 99 clowns who voted "no" in this poll.

LOL

Dude. It's one game that took a couple of miracles to happen for the win.

If you're judging him by his entire body of work as a starter, he doesn't look too good.

The Texans are winless this season except against us. TLaw threw 2 INTs in that game and had no TDs. The offense only managed 2 FGs.

ONE GAME?????

WHAT????

LOL
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(This post was last modified: 11-27-2022, 09:26 PM by SamusAranX. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-27-2022, 09:22 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-27-2022, 08:46 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: Dude. It's one game that took a couple of miracles to happen for the win.

If you're judging him by his entire body of work as a starter, he doesn't look too good.

The Texans are winless this season except against us. TLaw threw 2 INTs in that game and had no TDs. The offense only managed 2 FGs.

ONE GAME?????

WHAT????

LOL

I’ll give him a tiny bit of credit for sticking with his opinion, but that’s it. 

it’s not worth it to engage him anymore. Trevor is growing week by week, and his up’s have been outweighing his downs. That’s good enough for me

(11-10-2022, 11:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.

So, oh wise one, please come back to explain why this (today’s) game “doesn’t count”
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(11-27-2022, 09:25 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(11-27-2022, 09:22 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: ONE GAME?????

WHAT????

LOL

I’ll give him a tiny bit of credit for sticking with his opinion, but that’s it. 

it’s not worth it to engage him anymore. Trevor is growing week by week, and his up’s have been outweighing his downs. That’s good enough for me

(11-10-2022, 11:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: As I know you're desperate for a little check on that enthusiasm, it's important to remember that the Raiders' defense is:

* Dead last in the NFL for Oppenent Completion Percentage

* Dead last for sack percentage as well as sacks per game

* Dead last for takeaways per game and within a hair's breadth of being dead last for intereceptions per game

* Second last for red zone scoring percentage against and, yes, THIS CLOSE to dead last for red zone scores against

* AND, finally, dead last for opponent QB rating.  By a long way dead last.


That's not to say that TL didn't have his best game this year last weekend.  He did.  Every single QB in the league has their best game against the Raiders.

So, oh wise one, please come back to explain why this (today’s) game “doesn’t count”

But but  but

Ravens were bad so it doesn't count
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