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Props to Trevor for playing much better football the past 2 weeks.

#41

(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 10:58 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: This team is in no position to take advantage of downfield speed until they can protect the QB unfortunately. 
Zay (and others)  run wide open frequently downfield every week pointlessly while Trevor evades pressure and can't deliver it to them on time.

You latch onto one stat, ignoring all others or any context, and try to build an entire narrative off it. It’s pretty funny to watch, actually.

Which starting QB is the best in the league because he’s got the longest pressure time at 2.6 seconds?  Yeah, that’s right.  Justin Fields.

Which starting QB has exactly the same pressure time as TL so has exactly the performance.  Oh, that’s right. Joe Burrow.

Burrow’s stats are actually quite interesting and a lesson in context.  JB and TL each average 2.3 seconds from snap to throw or pressure.  JB has been sacked 30 times, TL 17.  JB has been knocked down 30 times, TL 22.  So he’s really under the pump, eh?

And now the interesting thing happens.  JB has been hurried just 11 times while TL has been 23 times. Wait, you mean JB is staying in the pocket and taking hits in order to orchestrate the play while TL flees rather than stand fast?  No, colour me surprised!  I must be seeing things wrong, surely JB is facing far more difficult rushes.  Nope.  JB has been blitzed 57 times and TL 81.  It almost like the opposition knows they can flush out the rabbit with just a little pressure.

But JB doesn’t have time to throw deep,either, right?  Just like you claim with TL?  Yet again, another attempted narrative busted.

Completions. 10+.   20+.   30+.  40+.   50+

JB.                96.      29.     12.     8.       4
TL.                97.      24.      6.      2.       0

But, but, but surely JB is throwing the ball even more than TL.  And again, wrong. JB has 333 attempts, TL has 348.

And yes, the QB ratings reflect the performance disparity.  So I call your attempt to deflect all of TL’s shortcomings onto the line busted.  The determinative factor in QB performance is not the number of seconds before he’s pressured.  It’s his actual performance.  TL is on a Terry Bridgewater career path.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php
So like a Brady/Montana?
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#42
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2022, 05:19 PM by scottyg. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 10:58 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: This team is in no position to take advantage of downfield speed until they can protect the QB unfortunately. 
Zay (and others)  run wide open frequently downfield every week pointlessly while Trevor evades pressure and can't deliver it to them on time.

You latch onto one stat, ignoring all others or any context, and try to build an entire narrative off it. It’s pretty funny to watch, actually.

Which starting QB is the best in the league because he’s got the longest pressure time at 2.6 seconds?  Yeah, that’s right.  Justin Fields.

Which starting QB has exactly the same pressure time as TL so has exactly the performance.  Oh, that’s right. Joe Burrow.

Burrow’s stats are actually quite interesting and a lesson in context.  JB and TL each average 2.3 seconds from snap to throw or pressure.  JB has been sacked 30 times, TL 17.  JB has been knocked down 30 times, TL 22.  So he’s really under the pump, eh?

And now the interesting thing happens.  JB has been hurried just 11 times while TL has been 23 times. Wait, you mean JB is staying in the pocket and taking hits in order to orchestrate the play while TL flees rather than stand fast?  No, colour me surprised!  I must be seeing things wrong, surely JB is facing far more difficult rushes.  Nope.  JB has been blitzed 57 times and TL 81.  It almost like the opposition knows they can flush out the rabbit with just a little pressure.

But JB doesn’t have time to throw deep,either, right?  Just like you claim with TL?  Yet again, another attempted narrative busted.

Completions. 10+.   20+.   30+.  40+.   50+

JB.                96.      29.     12.     8.       4
TL.                97.      24.      6.      2.       0

But, but, but surely JB is throwing the ball even more than TL.  And again, wrong. JB has 333 attempts, TL has 348.

And yes, the QB ratings reflect the performance disparity.  So I call your attempt to deflect all of TL’s shortcomings onto the line busted.  The determinative factor in QB performance is not the number of seconds before he’s pressured.  It’s his actual performance.  TL is on a Terry Bridgewater career path.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

Pot, meet Kettle. Add the giant pile of crap you've just spewed, and you have described your own MO perfectly.
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#43

(11-14-2022, 03:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: blah blah blah didn't read and don't care.
Who cares. Give Trevor Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase hahaha

https://twitter.com/QBKlass/status/15922...sLOCWto1kg

And remember the context behind that first throw shown here. He killed/changed the play with 5 seconds left on the play clock and still got the snap off and threw a strike for the TD.
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#44

(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 10:58 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: This team is in no position to take advantage of downfield speed until they can protect the QB unfortunately. 
Zay (and others)  run wide open frequently downfield every week pointlessly while Trevor evades pressure and can't deliver it to them on time.

You latch onto one stat, ignoring all others or any context, and try to build an entire narrative off it. It’s pretty funny to watch, actually.

Which starting QB is the best in the league because he’s got the longest pressure time at 2.6 seconds?  Yeah, that’s right.  Justin Fields.

Which starting QB has exactly the same pressure time as TL so has exactly the performance.  Oh, that’s right. Joe Burrow.

Burrow’s stats are actually quite interesting and a lesson in context.  JB and TL each average 2.3 seconds from snap to throw or pressure.  JB has been sacked 30 times, TL 17.  JB has been knocked down 30 times, TL 22.  So he’s really under the pump, eh?

And now the interesting thing happens.  JB has been hurried just 11 times while TL has been 23 times. Wait, you mean JB is staying in the pocket and taking hits in order to orchestrate the play while TL flees rather than stand fast?  No, colour me surprised!  I must be seeing things wrong, surely JB is facing far more difficult rushes.  Nope.  JB has been blitzed 57 times and TL 81.  It almost like the opposition knows they can flush out the rabbit with just a little pressure.

But JB doesn’t have time to throw deep,either, right?  Just like you claim with TL?  Yet again, another attempted narrative busted.

Completions. 10+.   20+.   30+.  40+.   50+

JB.                96.      29.     12.     8.       4
TL.                97.      24.      6.      2.       0

But, but, but surely JB is throwing the ball even more than TL.  And again, wrong. JB has 333 attempts, TL has 348.

And yes, the QB ratings reflect the performance disparity.  So I call your attempt to deflect all of TL’s shortcomings onto the line busted.  The determinative factor in QB performance is not the number of seconds before he’s pressured.  It’s his actual performance.  TL is on a Terry Bridgewater career path.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php
? stick to rooting for your backup Aussie D-lineman and stop pretending you understand QB play.
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#45
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2022, 12:14 AM by JagsorDie. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-13-2022, 06:32 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(11-13-2022, 06:20 PM)icey14 Wrote: The three deep passes were great throws.

Marvin caught his. Kirk and zay dropped theres
Zay was being held. Should have been PI. Kirk had his on the chest. We still need a legitimate, 6'4+, you can try and stop me but im muscling this damn ball down with me, receiver on the outside.

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Ridley catches that 10/10 times. 

Lol I didn’t say that last week a ton but I did a few times yesterday.
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#46

(11-14-2022, 07:49 PM)JagsorDie Wrote:
(11-13-2022, 06:32 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Zay was being held. Should have been PI. Kirk had his on the chest. We still need a legitimate, 6'4+, you can try and stop me but im muscling this damn ball down with me, receiver on the outside.

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Ridley catches thats 10/10 times. 

Lol I didn’t say that last week a ton but I did a few times yesterday.
I mean you’re not wrong.

Just look around the league and you’ll see these stud WRs making routine plays like the one Zay couldn’t make.

Ridley. Quentin Johnson. Kirk. ETN. Engram. That’s going to be my mantra all off season.
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#47

(11-14-2022, 05:31 PM)ClemsonRob Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: You latch onto one stat, ignoring all others or any context, and try to build an entire narrative off it. It’s pretty funny to watch, actually.

Which starting QB is the best in the league because he’s got the longest pressure time at 2.6 seconds?  Yeah, that’s right.  Justin Fields.

Which starting QB has exactly the same pressure time as TL so has exactly the performance.  Oh, that’s right. Joe Burrow.

Burrow’s stats are actually quite interesting and a lesson in context.  JB and TL each average 2.3 seconds from snap to throw or pressure.  JB has been sacked 30 times, TL 17.  JB has been knocked down 30 times, TL 22.  So he’s really under the pump, eh?

And now the interesting thing happens.  JB has been hurried just 11 times while TL has been 23 times. Wait, you mean JB is staying in the pocket and taking hits in order to orchestrate the play while TL flees rather than stand fast?  No, colour me surprised!  I must be seeing things wrong, surely JB is facing far more difficult rushes.  Nope.  JB has been blitzed 57 times and TL 81.  It almost like the opposition knows they can flush out the rabbit with just a little pressure.

But JB doesn’t have time to throw deep,either, right?  Just like you claim with TL?  Yet again, another attempted narrative busted.

Completions. 10+.   20+.   30+.  40+.   50+

JB.                96.      29.     12.     8.       4
TL.                97.      24.      6.      2.       0

But, but, but surely JB is throwing the ball even more than TL.  And again, wrong. JB has 333 attempts, TL has 348.

And yes, the QB ratings reflect the performance disparity.  So I call your attempt to deflect all of TL’s shortcomings onto the line busted.  The determinative factor in QB performance is not the number of seconds before he’s pressured.  It’s his actual performance.  TL is on a Terry Bridgewater career path.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php
? stick to rooting for your backup Aussie D-lineman and stop pretending you understand QB play.

Bzzz.  Wrong answer.  You may assume that since I live in Australia that I am Australian.
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#48

(11-14-2022, 09:08 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 05:31 PM)ClemsonRob Wrote: ? stick to rooting for your backup Aussie D-lineman and stop pretending you understand QB play.

Bzzz.  Wrong answer.  You may assume that since I live in Australia that I am Australian.

I was sort of hoping Adam had a fan club…
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#49

(11-14-2022, 05:16 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: You latch onto one stat, ignoring all others or any context, and try to build an entire narrative off it. It’s pretty funny to watch, actually.

Which starting QB is the best in the league because he’s got the longest pressure time at 2.6 seconds?  Yeah, that’s right.  Justin Fields.

Which starting QB has exactly the same pressure time as TL so has exactly the performance.  Oh, that’s right. Joe Burrow.

Burrow’s stats are actually quite interesting and a lesson in context.  JB and TL each average 2.3 seconds from snap to throw or pressure.  JB has been sacked 30 times, TL 17.  JB has been knocked down 30 times, TL 22.  So he’s really under the pump, eh?

And now the interesting thing happens.  JB has been hurried just 11 times while TL has been 23 times. Wait, you mean JB is staying in the pocket and taking hits in order to orchestrate the play while TL flees rather than stand fast?  No, colour me surprised!  I must be seeing things wrong, surely JB is facing far more difficult rushes.  Nope.  JB has been blitzed 57 times and TL 81.  It almost like the opposition knows they can flush out the rabbit with just a little pressure.

But JB doesn’t have time to throw deep,either, right?  Just like you claim with TL?  Yet again, another attempted narrative busted.

Completions. 10+.   20+.   30+.  40+.   50+

JB.                96.      29.     12.     8.       4
TL.                97.      24.      6.      2.       0

But, but, but surely JB is throwing the ball even more than TL.  And again, wrong. JB has 333 attempts, TL has 348.

And yes, the QB ratings reflect the performance disparity.  So I call your attempt to deflect all of TL’s shortcomings onto the line busted.  The determinative factor in QB performance is not the number of seconds before he’s pressured.  It’s his actual performance.  TL is on a Terry Bridgewater career path.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php
So like a Brady/Montana?

It’s almost like he is trying to say the qb with Boyd, jamar chase and tee Higgins is having less trouble throwing the ball down field.

Great [BLEEP] work from our Aussie Einstein. Glad you found the proper context you were looking for and  Really proved your point jack [BLEEP].
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#50

(11-15-2022, 12:24 AM)JagsorDie Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 05:16 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: So like a Brady/Montana?

It’s almost like he is trying to say the qb with Boyd, jamar chase and tee Higgins is having less trouble throwing the ball down field.

Great [BLEEP] work from our Aussie Einstein. Glad you found the proper context you were looking for and  Really proved your point jack [BLEEP].

It appears that you're unaware that Bridgewater was a two-year starter who couldn't stay in a pocket or pass effectively further than 15 yards. He became a journeyman backup for four seasons until a desperate Carolina tried him as a starter again only to replace him with Sam Darnold.  He went to a desperate Denver to start before they replaced him with Russell Wilson.  And now Bridgewater is a backup again.

That's the journey you are unaware of.  Are you sure this is your game?  Actual NFL fans would know this stuff.
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#51

(11-14-2022, 05:16 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-14-2022, 03:46 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: You latch onto one stat, ignoring all others or any context, and try to build an entire narrative off it. It’s pretty funny to watch, actually.

Which starting QB is the best in the league because he’s got the longest pressure time at 2.6 seconds?  Yeah, that’s right.  Justin Fields.

Which starting QB has exactly the same pressure time as TL so has exactly the performance.  Oh, that’s right. Joe Burrow.

Burrow’s stats are actually quite interesting and a lesson in context.  JB and TL each average 2.3 seconds from snap to throw or pressure.  JB has been sacked 30 times, TL 17.  JB has been knocked down 30 times, TL 22.  So he’s really under the pump, eh?

And now the interesting thing happens.  JB has been hurried just 11 times while TL has been 23 times. Wait, you mean JB is staying in the pocket and taking hits in order to orchestrate the play while TL flees rather than stand fast?  No, colour me surprised!  I must be seeing things wrong, surely JB is facing far more difficult rushes.  Nope.  JB has been blitzed 57 times and TL 81.  It almost like the opposition knows they can flush out the rabbit with just a little pressure.

But JB doesn’t have time to throw deep,either, right?  Just like you claim with TL?  Yet again, another attempted narrative busted.

Completions. 10+.   20+.   30+.  40+.   50+

JB.                96.      29.     12.     8.       4
TL.                97.      24.      6.      2.       0

But, but, but surely JB is throwing the ball even more than TL.  And again, wrong. JB has 333 attempts, TL has 348.

And yes, the QB ratings reflect the performance disparity.  So I call your attempt to deflect all of TL’s shortcomings onto the line busted.  The determinative factor in QB performance is not the number of seconds before he’s pressured.  It’s his actual performance.  TL is on a Terry Bridgewater career path.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php
So like a Brady/Montana?

Tony Brady and Jeff Montana were frickin legends, man. We could only hope!
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#52

(11-15-2022, 01:18 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote:
(11-15-2022, 12:24 AM)JagsorDie Wrote: It’s almost like he is trying to say the qb with Boyd, jamar chase and tee Higgins is having less trouble throwing the ball down field.

Great [BLEEP] work from our Aussie Einstein. Glad you found the proper context you were looking for and  Really proved your point jack [BLEEP].

It appears that you're unaware that Bridgewater was a two-year starter who couldn't stay in a pocket or pass effectively further than 15 yards. He became a journeyman backup for four seasons until a desperate Carolina tried him as a starter again only to replace him with Sam Darnold.  He went to a desperate Denver to start before they replaced him with Russell Wilson.  And now Bridgewater is a backup again.

That's the journey you are unaware of.  Are you sure this is your game?  Actual NFL fans would know this stuff.

That ain't the Terry Bridgewater I remember. Hard to believe after destroying his knee he wasn't able to unseat Drew Beers. Who does he think he is, Tatum Hill?
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#53

(11-15-2022, 09:23 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(11-15-2022, 01:18 AM)OzJohnnie Wrote: It appears that you're unaware that Bridgewater was a two-year starter who couldn't stay in a pocket or pass effectively further than 15 yards. He became a journeyman backup for four seasons until a desperate Carolina tried him as a starter again only to replace him with Sam Darnold.  He went to a desperate Denver to start before they replaced him with Russell Wilson.  And now Bridgewater is a backup again.

That's the journey you are unaware of.  Are you sure this is your game?  Actual NFL fans would know this stuff.

That ain't the Terry Bridgewater I remember. Hard to believe after destroying his knee he wasn't able to unseat Drew Beers. Who does he think he is, Tatum Hill?

Terry Bradwater and Teddy Bridgeshaw are my most favoritist quarter backs
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#54

How much of his contract money did Trevor take in cryptocurrency?
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#55

(11-15-2022, 12:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: How much of his contract money did Trevor take in cryptocurrency?

Whatever he took he converted right away and he publicly downplayed it already. It was a promotional stunt. 
He didn't tie up money in crypto.
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#56

(11-15-2022, 12:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: How much of his contract money did Trevor take in cryptocurrency?

Zero.  Unless you count his endorsement deal with Blockfolio.  

https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2022/06...in-crypto/
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#57

Trevor has improved. Our team is competitive. Our record is ugly, but I truly believe we are headed in the right direction.


Look at his numbers. The stats tell the story. He's better than last year.
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#58

(11-17-2022, 08:21 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Trevor has improved. Our team is competitive. Our record is ugly, but I truly believe we are headed in the right direction.


Look at his numbers. The stats tell the story. He's better than last year.

Agreed he has been much better, but i don't think stats tell the story. If this was his 5th year his stats would be very underwelming and pretty poor. However I do think over the past 2-3 weeks he's shown impressive improvement in the areas he typically wasn't good in. Things like consistently being accurate, making the correct decision and most importantly decision making under pressure (both pass rush pressure, and situational down in the game pressure)
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#59

big thing is we are 2 games out of the wildcard spot with 7 left we can do this.
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#60

(11-18-2022, 05:59 PM)icey14 Wrote: big thing is we are 2 games out of the wildcard spot with 7 left we can do this.

And I could grow a third arm…
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