We all loved Brunell. He wasn't a true franchise QB.

Say what? Of course he was and this comes from someone who thinks he shouldn't have been inducted into The Pride. He'll also never get in to the HOF but you don't have to be an all time great player to be a franchise QB.

You've seen my thoughts on him, we can agree to disagree.

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That is just an insane stat broken today.  I hope this is the start of the culture change for the long term.

It's not about culture, it's about talent.

I've said it many times, and people here have wanted to argue with me about it, but this team has never had a true franchise QB before now, and that stat shows it.

For almost thirty years the Jags were going to lose it they needed to get a TD in the final minute of a game, because they had mid tier QBs at best who would fold under the pressure of having to make a play. Right now we have a fledgling elite QB developing. With a bit more talent around him you'll start to see wins like yesterday's regularly around here.

Yeah whatever. Mark Brunell was a franchise QB. He was a 3 time pro bowler. 4 straight playoffs. 2 AFC title games.

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While it's interesting that they've never done that before it's kind of a stupid statistic. I would be interested to see other teams' winning percentage in those cases, I can't imagine anyone has one that is very high. Down a touchdown or more in the last minute isn't something you just overcome all the time.

So getting the ball with three or four minutes left down seven isn't overcome-able? It's not like the drive has to start with less than a minute left, just that the team wins after being down by at least seven with under a minute left.

If you get the ball back with 4 minutes left and then march right down the field and score within the next 2 minutes and 59 seconds and win the game, you aren't in the stat, because the team was no longer "losing with 1 minute left".  I think the point is that the stat has a narrower window than one might think upon first glance.

Also keep in mind the stat isn't "7 points".  The stat is "7+ points".  How many of those 184 were 2+ score games?  Probably the overwelming majority of them.  Being down 2+ scores with less than a minute left is going to have an extremely low win percentage with any team.    

Also keep in mind the stat doesn't say we have the ball.  How many of those did the other team have the ball with a minute left?  How many of those are the other team taking 3 kneel downs to finish the game?  It's pretty routine for the team up with a minute left just to kneel down the finish the game.

Obviously, the Jaguars have been a horrible team since the turn of the millennium and haven't made nearly enough comebacks, but I am also curious about this stat with other teams.  I think the stat is tougher than it may sound on the surface.

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So getting the ball with three or four minutes left down seven isn't overcome-able? It's not like the drive has to start with less than a minute left, just that the team wins after being down by at least seven with under a minute left.

If you get the ball back with 4 minutes left and then march right down the field and score within the next 2 minutes and 59 seconds and win the game, you aren't in the stat, because the team was no longer "losing with 1 minute left".  I think the point is that the stat has a narrower window than one might think upon first glance.

Also keep in mind the stat isn't "7 points".  The stat is "7+ points".  How many of those 184 were 2+ score games?  Probably the overwelming majority of them.  Being down 2+ scores with less than a minute left is going to have an extremely low win percentage with any team.    

Also keep in mind the stat doesn't say we have the ball.  How many of those did the other team have the ball with a minute left?  How many of those are the other team taking 3 kneel downs to finish the game?  It's pretty routine for the team up with a minute left just to kneel down the finish the game.

Obviously, the Jaguars have been a horrible team since the turn of the millennium and haven't made nearly enough comebacks, but I am also curious about this stat with other teams.  I think the stat is tougher than it may sound on the surface.

I don't disagree with any of that. Still, with 183 games that they were behind with a minute to go, and I don't believe for a second that there aren't plenty of games where they were down 7 or 8 points (most nfl games aren't blowouts), it says a lot that they didn't win a single one of them until now.

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So getting the ball with three or four minutes left down seven isn't overcome-able? It's not like the drive has to start with less than a minute left, just that the team wins after being down by at least seven with under a minute left.

If you get the ball back with 4 minutes left and then march right down the field and score within the next 2 minutes and 59 seconds and win the game, you aren't in the stat, because the team was no longer "losing with 1 minute left".  I think the point is that the stat has a narrower window than one might think upon first glance.

Also keep in mind the stat isn't "7 points".  The stat is "7+ points".  How many of those 184 were 2+ score games?  Probably the overwhelming majority of them.  Being down 2+ scores with less than a minute left is going to have an extremely low win percentage with any team.    

Also keep in mind the stat doesn't say we have the ball.  How many of those did the other team have the ball with a minute left?  How many of those are the other team taking 3 kneel downs to finish the game?  It's pretty routine for the team up with a minute left just to kneel down the finish the game.

Obviously, the Jaguars have been a horrible team since the turn of the millennium and haven't made nearly enough comebacks, but I am also curious about this stat with other teams.  I think the stat is tougher than it may sound on the surface.

Exactly !!!

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That was my point, it's a 2 point conversion or 2 score game going into the last minute.

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