I think the Jags defense doesn't have enough smoke and mirrors to disguise their issues right now.

If they somehow find a way to hold a few opponents to 24 or less, then there's a chance the Jags make a little run.

I think the most likely scenario is the Jags win 2 more, maybe 3 and finish 2 games back of the tacks.

Seriously?  Now that we have Wingard up near the line of scrimmage, he's like a hybrid of Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis, and Bob Freaking Sanders all rolled into 1.

You're saying Wingard is as good as a 38 year old DT, a 47 year old LB and a 47 year old safety?

Dang, what did Dewey steal your girl or something?

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I knew both things would happen LOL. Someone would make a thread like this and the team would end up having some bad games.

It is a young team, they are not ready for the playoffs, need better players, more experience and a better DC.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

Lol after today we're going to get smoked by the titans not a chance

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Lol after today we're going to get smoked by the titans not a chance

It’s a shame that after every win, fans and media say, “It looks like the Jags have finally turned the corner.” But they never do. I know they’re better than last year but it’s so disheartening. Yes the Tacks are going to hammer us.

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Each big win is followed by a let-down game, typical Jags

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Lol after today we're going to get smoked by the titans not a chance

If they do Baalke and Caldwell need to pack their [BLEEP] and go. You opted on having a pure pass rusher or man to man shutdown corner in favor of a freak athlete thats good against the run and you signed Fatukasi and Olukon almost exclusively based on their run defending abilities. Failing to split the divisional series and finishing 1 - 5 or 2 - 4 divisionally is an epic fail.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

We need to start Walker Little at LT next week. Move Cam to LG

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We need to start Walker Little at LT next week.  Move Cam to LG

WE should start Travon Walker at LT. He is so good at holding onto his man every play.

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Lol after today we're going to get smoked by the titans not a chance

If they do Baalke and Caldwell need to pack their [BLEEP] and go. You opted on having a pure pass rusher or man to man shutdown corner in favor of a freak athlete thats good against the run and you signed Fatukasi and Olukon almost exclusively based on their run defending abilities. Failing to split the divisional series and finishing 1 - 5 or 2 - 4 divisionally is an epic fail.

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Any other franchise yes. But Khan doesn’t care. He never has and never will. He promises an EVP and never delivered

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Everytime I get a little bit optimistic about this team.. something like this happens.

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It's reliable egg laying performances like the one we had today against Detroit that make me think we won't win another game the rest of the season. Nothing great is coming from this season.

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It's reliable egg laying performances like the one we had today against Detroit that make me think we won't win another game the rest of the season.  Nothing great is coming from this season.

The development of Trevor into a franchise QB has been the best thing we could have asked for. Hopefully we can put a betwr team around him next year.

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Watch them beat the tacks 23 to 20.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Watch them beat the tacks 23 to 20.

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It would just be another head scratcher that this season has bestowed upon us.  Good head scratchers and bad.

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The issue is that this team still doesn't know who it is, mainly because there is nothing this team can hang their hat on.

They are below average are nearly all levels of the defense. Even the run defense is at best average, but even that is on curve as they are less tested given how poor the coverage and pass rush has been. Even then they still cannot stop a 4 min offense or many of the running offenses they have faced.

On offense, they are maybe average with rushing, but they are not good enough to run against good defenses. Nor can they be counted on to get short yardage 3rd/4th down runs when the defense knows what is coming. They are average with intermediate throws, but not consistent to depend on it against average passing defenses. And that doesn't work in the redzone/10 yard line when you no longer have the space/room. They basically have no deep/vertical passing game. I rarely see play action enough to even know if they are good at it. They have too many drops, penalties, or missed throws to consistently run a dink and dunk passing game.

Even special teams, there is basically no punt return game to speak off. The kickoff return game has high YPR, but has produced too few big plays. Kicker is average. I guess they hang their hat on punting and kick coverage?

Basically they don't have something they hang their hat on for offense or defense, and there definitely no "easy" button that can go get them a 1st down or get off the field when they have to have it. Teams don't go on winning streaks or make the playoffs without that. They need have an identity and try to have the game plan emphasize their identity. 

Part of this may be young players and injuries that have brought to forth incongruent team building and a lack of depth. But coaching is supposed to mask that to some extent. Good coaching and having an identity is how 2nd and 3rd string back ups on good teams still play well enough when called upon.

Not calling for Pederson's head at all. Caldwell definitely needs to have a discussion though, and maybe he needs some help from a more proven hand. Maybe the organization viewed this as a 2 year project with this year bringing in some potential foundational young guys and some vets to better see what they all do well and prepare for next season, because UM's season gave them no real information and that debacle ended up running off some the known talent that was on the team. But most franchises don't burn a year to do that, especially one when their hopeful franchise QB is on a rookie deal.

But this franchise won't turn it around until they find that identity and key on some things that the offense and defense can do well.

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We need to start Walker Little at LT next week.  Move Cam to LG

WE should start Travon Walker at LT. He is so good at holding onto his man every play.

That's one way to get Travon into the backfield.

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The issue is that this team still doesn't know who it is, mainly because there is nothing this team can hang their hat on.

They are below average are nearly all levels of the defense. Even the run defense is at best average, but even that is on curve as they are less tested given how poor the coverage and pass rush has been. Even then they still cannot stop a 4 min offense or many of the running offenses they have faced.

On offense, they are maybe average with rushing, but they are not good enough to run against good defenses. Nor can they be counted on to get short yardage 3rd/4th down runs when the defense knows what is coming. They are average with intermediate throws, but not consistent to depend on it against average passing defenses. And that doesn't work in the redzone/10 yard line when you no longer have the space/room. They basically have no deep/vertical passing game. I rarely see play action enough to even know if they are good at it. They have too many drops, penalties, or missed throws to consistently run a dink and dunk passing game.

Even special teams, there is basically no punt return game to speak off. The kickoff return game has high YPR, but has produced too few big plays. Kicker is average. I guess they hang their hat on punting and kick coverage?

Basically they don't have something they hang their hat on for offense or defense, and there definitely no "easy" button that can go get them a 1st down or get off the field when they have to have it. Teams don't go on winning streaks or make the playoffs without that. They need have an identity and try to have the game plan emphasize their identity. 

Part of this may be young players and injuries that have brought to forth incongruent team building and a lack of depth. But coaching is supposed to mask that to some extent. Good coaching and having an identity is how 2nd and 3rd string back ups on good teams still play well enough when called upon.

Not calling for Pederson's head at all. Caldwell definitely needs to have a discussion though, and maybe he needs some help from a more proven hand. Maybe the organization viewed this as a 2 year project with this year bringing in some potential foundational young guys and some vets to better see what they all do well and prepare for next season, because UM's season gave them no real information and that debacle ended up running off some the known talent that was on the team. But most franchises don't burn a year to do that, especially one when their hopeful franchise QB is on a rookie deal.

But this franchise won't turn it around until they find that identity and key on some things that the offense and defense can do well.

This is well stated. For all the money we spent in FA the past two seasons, we did not acquire anyone who defines the franchise. Outside of Trevor, we really haven't drafted anyone to command that role, either.  We've had 3 HC and associated staffs in the past three seasons, 3 different GM/decision makers, and our identify may truly be "undefined".

There is nothing consistent. During the building phase of a team, that's understandable. We've spent ages whiffing on hires, picks, signings, uniforms, everything. I'm happy with the Pederson hire, the Lawrence pick, and to an extent, the FA we signed this past year. There's still a lot of work needed to clean up the debris of past regimes and their gaffes.

More than anything, we need to determine who we are, what we are going to do, and lean all the way into that mindset. If we are going to be ball control offense, don't worry about the home run burner, get those sure-handed route runners that are gonna get chains moving. Get linemen that are going to excel at that short window stuff. If you want to be all bombs all the time, get brick walls of linemen that are going to buy the QB and WR time to find that huge gain. If the D is going to be bend, but don't break, get reliable tacklers that are going to keep plays in front of them. If you want sacks, bring in guys that demonstrate capability in getting past a lineman and onto a QB's heels.

We seem to be mixing and matching all over, and master no skills. I don't know if it's on positional coaching, mediocre players, or just some curse of wearing teal, but it's beyond old that for any step we take forward, we take three in the opposite direction.

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Same position as last week. Just win all of our games and have the Titans lose an additional game and we are in control of our own destiny.... lol

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If they do Baalke and Caldwell need to pack their [BLEEP] and go. You opted on having a pure pass rusher or man to man shutdown corner in favor of a freak athlete thats good against the run and you signed Fatukasi and Olukon almost exclusively based on their run defending abilities. Failing to split the divisional series and finishing 1 - 5 or 2 - 4 divisionally is an epic fail.

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Any other franchise yes. But Khan doesn’t care. He never has and never will. He promises an EVP and never delivered

You ever see how Tony Khan hires EVP's?

I think we dodged a bullet!!!!

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Everytime I get a little bit optimistic about this team.. something like this happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

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Watch them beat the tacks 23 to 20.

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Their punter just booked a flight to the Bahamas and is scheduled to return next Monday.

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