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*** Official Draft Thread - Day 2 ***


(04-28-2023, 11:08 PM)Newton Wrote: This is definitely a different type of draft. Feels more like an old school patriots draft. Load up on picks and then make them battle it out at camp for roster spots.

I was thinking the same thing.  Def feels like a Pats draft
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(04-28-2023, 11:04 PM)TownCenterJag Wrote: We should have a very good offense.

The Superbowl goes through KC.

No defense has shown they can consistently shut that offense down.

We could have picked the 3 best defensive players in the draft, and we aren't shutting that offense down.

If you can't beat them, join them.

They aren't wasting their time trying to build a team to stop KC, they are working on building a team that can run with KC and to out score them.
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Some good defensive guys in FA to fill some temporary gaps. Maybe that’s what they’re banking on.
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The guess is they expect last years draft to improve this years defense. This years draft to improve next years offense.

It feels like they are playing a year ahead.
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(04-28-2023, 11:14 PM)HardcoreMoJagFan Wrote: The guess is they expect last years draft to improve this years defense.  This years draft to improve next years offense. 

It feels like they are playing a year ahead.

That's what you're supposed to do.  If you're expecting your rookie class to come in and save the day, you will be disappointed 9 years out of 10.
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Back at it again at 12 pm. Hopefully less anger lol
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unless they got alot of faith in year 2 lloyd and walker
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(04-28-2023, 11:14 PM)HardcoreMoJagFan Wrote: The guess is they expect last years draft to improve this years defense.  This years draft to improve next years offense. 

It feels like they are playing a year ahead.

That's kind of how drafting works.
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(04-28-2023, 11:10 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Man. Seeing a lot of overreaction on here. LOL. Surprise, surprise.

It's obvious what they're doing. They have their receivers, they have one TE. They clearly wanted to add power and balance to this offense to give them variety.

Harrison, Strange and Bigsby fit these roles perfectly. We're getting faster and stronger in the backfield.

I think, if we're saying we needed to go heavy defensively, where, you're now looking at six games with rookie QBs within this division? We did something wrong.

I just can't complain.

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I'm generally even-keeled about draft-related stuff the Bigsby pick was beyond disappointing. Look at the production out of a player like Hasty who quite literally came out of nowhere and produced beyond all of our imaginations. Even if we're trying to establish a rb-by-committee approach, the fact that we could have addressed other pressing positions on defense or hell, even bolstered the O-line depth even further after the Harrison pick would have been better at that pick.

The Harrison pick seemed forced, yet warranted so I'm good with that choice. Strange was a shocker for what seemed like everyone but I can stomach that choice, but selecting Bigsby? Not gonna work for me there. Good thing we're all on this side of the draft process though I guess. Lets hope everything works out the way it should.

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We're winning the division regardless of what happens or happened in this draft. R - E - L - A - X
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(04-28-2023, 11:13 PM)Predator Wrote:
(04-28-2023, 11:04 PM)TownCenterJag Wrote: We should have a very good offense.

The Superbowl goes through KC.

No defense has shown they can consistently shut that offense down.

We could have picked the 3 best defensive players in the draft, and we aren't shutting that offense down.

If you can't beat them, join them.

They aren't wasting their time trying to build a team to stop KC, they are working on building a team that can run with KC and to out score them.

No one can shut them down, but Cinci has slowed them down. Held them to less than 25 points in 3 of 4 games. And the Bengals even won the game where the Chiefs scored more than that.

But yes historically the Mahomes' led Chiefs will score 28 points. So you have to plan to be able to score that many, and then hope you defense can make some big timely plays to force TO's, force a few FG's or punts.
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How many of the day 3 picks do you think we make?
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(04-28-2023, 11:20 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: We're winning the division regardless of what happens or happened in this draft. R - E - L - A - X

The goal isn't to win the division.  We done that last year.  The goal is to win a SB
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(This post was last modified: 04-28-2023, 11:28 PM by TheDogCatcher.)

(04-28-2023, 11:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cool can't wait to draft a bunch of guys in the 5th 6th and 7th that wont even make the team. Baalke can't draft for [BLEEP] past round 3.

I don't know what Shad sees in him. I think there's now an element of dysfunction in the building. Doug is becoming Coughlin-esque. Baalke and his scouts are paperwork clerks now. Head coaches are notorious needs pickers. Baalke needs to push back with, "Simmer down! Strange will be there in the 3rd or I'll buy you lunch tomorrow" and "I just signed Johnson and extended Hasty. Seriously, Dougie, no more running backs. Go to the break room and grab a snickers. You're not yourself when you're hungry."

(04-28-2023, 11:22 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(04-28-2023, 11:13 PM)Predator Wrote: The Superbowl goes through KC.

No defense has shown they can consistently shut that offense down.

We could have picked the 3 best defensive players in the draft, and we aren't shutting that offense down.

If you can't beat them, join them.

They aren't wasting their time trying to build a team to stop KC, they are working on building a team that can run with KC and to out score them.

No one can shut them down, but Cinci has slowed them down. Held them to less than 25 points in 3 of 4 games. And the Bengals even won the game where the Chiefs scored more than that.

But yes historically the Mahomes' led Chiefs will score 28 points. So you have to plan to be able to score that many, and then hope you defense can make some big timely plays to force TO's, force a few FG's or punts.

Good point. However, Philly is clearly trying to build up waves of pass rushers to throw at Mahomes in the Super Bowl rematch, much like the NY Giants unleashed on Brady.
"I am only an average man, but by George, I work harder at it than the average man." - Teddy Roosevelt

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My only logic is they understand they can't fix it all in this offseason. Building around the Qb as much as possible is the priority this draft. I have no problem with that philosophy. Also their board differs from many here.
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10 picks for tommorow

Doug said tommorow will be addressing other areas

So expect defence
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(04-28-2023, 10:54 PM)Predator Wrote: I thought it would have been a defensive heavy draft.

What we now know, this team is all in on TL.

We are going to either live or die through our offense.

This team is all about offense.

It's being built to shoot it out with anyone.

Agreed.
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(This post was last modified: 04-28-2023, 11:40 PM by TheDuke007. Edited 1 time in total.)

(04-28-2023, 10:45 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: On a serious note, if Etienne were to go down for the season, would you feel ok with the other running backs still on the roster?  I'm a little surprised by the pick, but Tank looked good in clips.  I like the way he runs and if Etienne were to go down, I wouldn't say our running game is necessarily done for with a combination of Tank and Hasty or whomever else taking over.

First, yes, I feel ok with our other running backs.  Obviously, you hate any injury to a starter and ETN is a great player.  However, I think D'Ernest Johnson is a decent backup and has good potential.  He just got buried on a great depth chart in Cleveland.  Hasty is also a fine backup.  Snoop has never shown me anything, but he was a player who Baalke thought highly enough to trade up in the 5th round of the draft last year and let's not forget that he was a rookie.  Many rookies struggle in year one.  Additionally, no team is strong at all 53 roster spots.  Snoop is likely a game day inactive, barring injuries to other players and likely has little to no impact on the success of this team.  Yes, you can always improve depth, but I had no huge concerns with our running back depth.  

Second, you draft depth on Day 3.  You don't draft depth on Day 2.  You particularly don't draft depth on Day 2 at a non-premium position such as running back.  If you are truly trying to "build through the draft", you want to find starters here, aka, the core of  your team.  A tight end #2 and a running back #2 are not the core of your team.  Even if we feel our running back depth was lacking, we could still use one of our 10 draft picks on Day 3 to address it.
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(This post was last modified: 04-28-2023, 11:35 PM by HardcoreMoJagFan. Edited 1 time in total.)

Remember when the complaints used to be about taking players from all the small schools. At least there isn't that.

I would also guess they view Bigsby as a starting RB.
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(04-28-2023, 11:32 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: 10 picks for tommorow

Doug said tommorow will be addressing other areas

So expect defence

One would certainly hope so.

I mean we can literally field another team with the amount of draft picks we have remaining. I hope we trade some of these picks for ammo in next years draft.

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