Now we know why they added the kid.

The #6 TE on the roster was injured.

https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16784...69353?s=20

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Now we know why they added the kid a TE.

The #6 TE on the roster was injured.

https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16784...69353?s=20

FIFY.  As to why they added this specific TE, yes, we know that as well.

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That's on you for being an idiot if you can't see the difference between the two.

Idiot?  Don’t be so hard on yourself.  Let me explain it for you in a simple, clear way.

One was a guy giving a marketing opportunity an ill-fated and gimmicky run in teal hot pants.  The other is a dad giving his son an NFL contract out of nowhere.

The difference is clear.  The fact that one bothered so bad you couldn’t go more than six hours without moaning about it while the other gets a congratulatory free pass doesn’t mean you’re an idiot, though.  Unprincipled, certainly, but not an idiot.

One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

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My goodness, I cannot wait till there is something going on that makes more sense to get upset about.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

My goodness, I cannot wait till there is something going on that makes more sense to get upset about.

Pederson goes 17 catches for 225 and 2TDs in the preseason. 

OZJ: "How dare Pederson run all those plays for his kid!"

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Welcome daddy's boy

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Idiot?  Don’t be so hard on yourself.  Let me explain it for you in a simple, clear way.

One was a guy giving a marketing opportunity an ill-fated and gimmicky run in teal hot pants.  The other is a dad giving his son an NFL contract out of nowhere.

The difference is clear.  The fact that one bothered so bad you couldn’t go more than six hours without moaning about it while the other gets a congratulatory free pass doesn’t mean you’re an idiot, though.  Unprincipled, certainly, but not an idiot.

One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

That 35 year old with 1-2 years of practice is probably a lot better than the 25 year old will be.

In the end it doesn't matter as the 90th or 85th, whatever the last roster spot is at this time of year is, won't be making the roster and let him and his dad have a good family moment in a preseason game.

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One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

That 35 year old with 1-2 years of practice is probably a lot better than the 25 year old will be.

In the end it doesn't matter as the 90th or 85th, whatever the last roster spot is at this time of year is, won't be making the roster and let him and his dad have a good family moment in a preseason game.

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C'mon man, Tebow was terrible at pro football. This kid, and thousands of others we've never heard of, is already better than Tebow's max.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

That 35 year old with 1-2 years of practice is probably a lot better than the 25 year old will be.

In the end it doesn't matter as the 90th or 85th, whatever the last roster spot is at this time of year is, won't be making the roster and let him and his dad have a good family moment in a preseason game.

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You obviously did not watch him play TE.  I did.  He could not block.  He was getting running backs blown up in the backfield. Additionally my grandma could cover him.

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One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

That 35 year old with 1-2 years of practice is probably a lot better than the 25 year old will be.

In the end it doesn't matter as the 90th or 85th, whatever the last roster spot is at this time of year is, won't be making the roster and let him and his dad have a good family moment in a preseason game.

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We’re obviously talking about a different 35 year old…

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Let's get some more accurate perspective here.

One was a failed football player (who had never played TE) who turned to baseball to stay relevant, where he also failed. At that point the worst coach in the history of NFL football stupidly decided to give him a tryout - and he  - wait for it - failed again. 

The other is a young man currently in the middle of a professional football career as a TE. He makes 1000% more sense as a camp body for a TE room with little depth than someone completely removed from the sport by years who never even played the position.

If you add “and who wouldn’t be getting a look at the Jags if he weren’t the coach’s son” then your perspective would be in focus.  The harder you work to make it seem like being the coaches son has nothing to do with him turning up at the Jags instead of any other NFL team (who have no idea who he is), the more you dig the hole.

I could care less about him.  But I am humoured by ease with which this board decides principle based on expediency.

So you are honestly saying that no other teams scout the USFL or XFL or CFL for players?

If anything, it puts MORE pressure on the kid, and on the coach. The kid is going to have to prove his mettle to show that it's more than his surname that got him a look. The coach is going to have to be sure he treats his kid just like any other player to avoid allegation of favoritism. How do you not understand that this is more risky than just hoping he gets picked up by the tinhorns or some other squad that is equally trying to find players before the season begins?

I like how you continually overlook any of the relevant performance information that might justify him getting this chance.

It's not like we cut a healthy player to make room for him, but I have a feeling any justification anyone here offers will fall on deaf ears anyhow. You've made up your mind. If you could not care less (SWIDT?) you wouldn't bother posting your angst.

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This is amusing. Jaguars.com posted a story about Josh Pederson being signed but did not mention he is the son of the HC.

The Jacksonville Jaguars have signed TE Josh Pederson and waived/injured TE Leonard Taylor, the team announced today. If Taylor clears waivers, he will revert to the Jaguars injured reserve list.
Pederson played in all 10 games during the 2023 USFL season for the Houston Gamblers. He caught 25 passes for 325 yards and ranked third in receiving yards among tight ends. Prior to joining the Gamblers, he spent time with the San Francisco 49ers, New Orleans Saints, and Kansas City Chiefs during the 2021 season.
Originally from Moorestown, N.J., Pederson played collegiately at Louisiana-Monroe and caught 99 passes for 1,191 yards and 11 touchdowns. In 2019, he was named All-Sun Belt First Team after recording 43 receptions for 567 receiving yards and a team-leading nine receiving touchdowns. He attended Blue Valley North high school where he caught 73 passes for 1,102 yards and 16 touchdowns in two seasons.

Heh.  A nice little chuckle, this.  Of course, its easy to see why the club whitewashes the embarassment.

This move builds the son’s coaching resume. With time in an NFL camp it will be far more likely he can pick up an NFL coaching gig.  It’s good dad is helping him out.  Dads are supposed to do that.

This righteous board, however, doing its best blind monkeys impersonation is another thing.  To pretend that “coach’s son” is not the most important factor, indeed the only factor, that has him in this camp is a damning indictment on yourselves. Especially just two short seasons after you all had the vapours over a far less personally indicting case of favouritism.

It is you all that I’m judging, not the Jags or Pedersons.

Ouch.
My ego.
How ever will I survive now.

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If you add “and who wouldn’t be getting a look at the Jags if he weren’t the coach’s son” then your perspective would be in focus.  The harder you work to make it seem like being the coaches son has nothing to do with him turning up at the Jags instead of any other NFL team (who have no idea who he is), the more you dig the hole.

I could care less about him.  But I am humoured by ease with which this board decides principle based on expediency.

Meh

You're trying to make something out of nothing.
Virtual nobodies get added to rosters this time of year on the reg.

Here are the TEs ahead of him:

Evan Engram
Brenton Strange
Luke Farrell
Gerritt Prince
Sammis Reyes
Leonard Taylor

If he somehow beats out four of those guys (and the potential H-Back/FB candidate) for a roster spot and one of them goes on to a better career, I'll happily bow in acceptance to your premature cries of nepotism. 
For now - it seems rather innocuous.

/pushes glasses up nose

technically, he's ahead of Taylor already, who was waived/injured to make room for him.

//crawls back into locker

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Meh

You're trying to make something out of nothing.
Virtual nobodies get added to rosters this time of year on the reg.

Here are the TEs ahead of him:

Evan Engram
Brenton Strange
Luke Farrell
Gerritt Prince
Sammis Reyes
Leonard Taylor

If he somehow beats out four of those guys (and the potential H-Back/FB candidate) for a roster spot and one of them goes on to a better career, I'll happily bow in acceptance to your premature cries of nepotism. 
For now - it seems rather innocuous.

That is exactly the same rationalising about Tebow that had you foaming at the mouth.  It’s clear you understand exactly what you’re doing but hope that by pretending you don’t, that you’ll get a pass.  Your attempt to say “nothing to see here” is fine with me. I get no mileage from your integrity or lack thereof.

Tebow had comparable stats at TE in NCAA, CFL, USFL, or any other startup league?

Teebs had ZERO JUSTIFICATION for getting a look, which did have several of us, who were already voicing concerns over the ineptitude of the coach at the time, quite vocally opposed.
Teebs got his look.
Teebs failed miserably performed exactly as most of us expected, based on his experience at the position.
Teebs was sent packing. 
Everyone moved on.

Okay, maybe not that last bit, as we've seen from your recent posts. That's what you don't get. This isn't apples to apples. JP has spent his career playing at the position we signed him to play, and has proven that he can do so, at the level one would expect of a bottom of the roster signing. There's at least SOME reason why any coach could defend signing this kid to a deal to see if he's ready for the big league. What justification was there with Teebs?

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Now we know why they added the kid a TE.

The #6 TE on the roster was injured.

https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/16784...69353?s=20

FIFY.  As to why they added this specific TE, yes, we know that as well.

OK, since you are so up in arms over this one player, which TE would you have brought in?

I mean, you seem to know that there are plenty of other capable TE out there who missed an opportunity because the coach had to bring his kid to work.

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Idiot?  Don’t be so hard on yourself.  Let me explain it for you in a simple, clear way.

One was a guy giving a marketing opportunity an ill-fated and gimmicky run in teal hot pants.  The other is a dad giving his son an NFL contract out of nowhere.

The difference is clear.  The fact that one bothered so bad you couldn’t go more than six hours without moaning about it while the other gets a congratulatory free pass doesn’t mean you’re an idiot, though.  Unprincipled, certainly, but not an idiot.

One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

35 is greater than 25, duh.
Simple math.

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One was 35 years old and had never played the position before.

The other is 25 years old and has played the position before.

Although I know that's too much for your little pea brain to comprehend...

Either way, It's a long shot for Doug's son to even make the practice squad, let alone the 53 man roster.

That 35 year old with 1-2 years of practice is probably a lot better than the 25 year old will be.

In the end it doesn't matter as the 90th or 85th, whatever the last roster spot is at this time of year is, won't be making the roster and let him and his dad have a good family moment in a preseason game.

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I...wut?

So you are saying a 37 year old TE is where you want to invest time and money developing?

One thing is for certain, if we embraced that development strategy we'd be able to have our pick of the players available. Ain't nobody else that daft.

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As much as I want to jump in with sarcastic comments, the truth of the matter is that I don't care if Pederson signs his son, and even takes in 3 foster kids and signs them to the roster, as long as he continues to be one of the best coaches in the NFL.  He's by far the best coach that the Jags have had since Coughlin !!

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It was ten games. 
The Gamblers went 5-5

Projected to 17 games he'd have had 570 yards in a season the length of an NFL season. 
That's more than the 12 best TE in the NFL last year. 

Math is your friend. 

Still, I stick to my projection. 
Long shot to make the PS.

Yep, Yep, yep...

Still, who knows?  I remember TC having his son-in-law on the roster in NY playing guard.  Besides if the guy doesn't make it from the season he had someone in the USFL will pick him up. A no lose proposition for the kid.

You mean his son in law that went to the pro bowl 4 times and was an All Pro too?

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

I might be concerned if Doug hadn't had success and won a super bowl in this league. That's earned him a pass on this. /thread

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I might be concerned if Doug hadn't had success and won a super bowl in this league.  That's earned him a pass on this.  /thread

He doesn't need a pass for this, it's a non-issue over a low value roster spot given to a qualified candidate.

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Let's get some more accurate perspective here.

One was a failed football player (who had never played TE) who turned to baseball to stay relevant, where he also failed. At that point the worst coach in the history of NFL football stupidly decided to give him a tryout - and he  - wait for it - failed again. 

The other is a young man currently in the middle of a professional football career as a TE. He makes 1000% more sense as a camp body for a TE room with little depth than someone completely removed from the sport by years who never even played the position.

If you add “and who wouldn’t be getting a look at the Jags if he weren’t the coach’s son” then your perspective would be in focus.  The harder you work to make it seem like being the coaches son has nothing to do with him turning up at the Jags instead of any other NFL team (who have no idea who he is), the more you dig the hole.

I could care less about him.  But I am humoured by ease with which this board decides principle based on expediency.

He's literally been on 3 other NFL rosters in past offseasons

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

Yep, Yep, yep...

Still, who knows?  I remember TC having his son-in-law on the roster in NY playing guard.  Besides if the guy doesn't make it from the season he had someone in the USFL will pick him up. A no lose proposition for the kid.

You mean his son in law that went to the pro bowl 4 times and was an All Pro too?

Yea, that's the guy.  Chris Snee, I believe he has 2 super bowl rings as well.  You know it isn't like our coach knows anything about tight ends....but still think he is a long shot.

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