Dude how stupid are you? I SAID WHILE OTHERS BLAMED THE WRS, NOT ME. This is the kind of ignorance that has lead to a big majority of this board being ignorant towards me. And if you're referring to the Agnew drop, you should go rewatch that game. Lawrence was over throwing WRs left right and center, all game. Drops weren't the issue for him.

Kind of ironic that you would ask how stupid someone is.  Nope, you never did that:


"Edit: Also side note, the Bethard quote is quite a funny one. Lawrence was playing like absolute dog [BLEEP] the entire game, everyone in that thread was blaming the WRs and Bethard came in for all of 4 or so plays and threw 3 absolute dots, one of which would have been a 40+ yard td if Agnew didn't drop it."

"It's not stupid when I do it."

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Now this is hilarious.  People are ‘making excuses’ about the WRs and you do THE EXACT SAME THING.  What a joke.  

But let me repeat.  I called this WAY BACK when you first started in on Lawrence.  You were so blind to see anything positive with Lawrence it was incredible.  It was like you wanted Lawrence to fail.  But you always kept those little tiny caveats so you could say that you never said that.  And now.  Voila.  Where Lawrence is doing exactly what everyone else could see coming, you’re on board.

Pathetic.

Dude how stupid are you? I SAID WHILE OTHERS BLAMED THE WRS, NOT ME. This is the kind of ignorance that has lead to a big majority of this board being ignorant towards me. And if you're referring to the Agnew drop, you should go rewatch that game. Lawrence was over throwing WRs left right and center, all game. Drops weren't the issue for him.

Anyway back to making NYC look like a donkey once again. Check the dates!


Don't see me clamoring to draft someone else, 4 months prior to the draft once we locked into the #1 pick I made my opinions very clear in this post. As i've been saying, over hyped.. not a bust.






I could honestly post 100 more pictures of what i've said, follow it up with things i've said recently and show it all lines up.. but alas, considering the guy i'm replying too can't even comprehend what I said about the WR's regarding the Bethard post, I doubt this will change anything either.

I'm so happy you found a few posts of yourself backpedaling or simply contradicting the dozens and dozens of Lawrence-Hate posts you spammed the board with in between trying to cover your [BLEEP]. 

How do you not get that "you said what you said?" You said it, you clearly meant it because you blathered about it for months. Posts of your backpedaling after your stupidity was pointed out to you aren't gonna help here. 

LOL

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OK - ON TOPIC:

Opinions wanted:
Who will play the most regular season snaps at Left Guard in 2023? 

1.Tyler Shatley
2. Ben Bartch
3. Walker Little 
4. Someone Else

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Dude how stupid are you? I SAID WHILE OTHERS BLAMED THE WRS, NOT ME. This is the kind of ignorance that has lead to a big majority of this board being ignorant towards me. And if you're referring to the Agnew drop, you should go rewatch that game. Lawrence was over throwing WRs left right and center, all game. Drops weren't the issue for him.

Anyway back to making NYC look like a donkey once again. Check the dates!


Don't see me clamoring to draft someone else, 4 months prior to the draft once we locked into the #1 pick I made my opinions very clear in this post. As i've been saying, over hyped.. not a bust.






I could honestly post 100 more pictures of what i've said, follow it up with things i've said recently and show it all lines up.. but alas, considering the guy i'm replying too can't even comprehend what I said about the WR's regarding the Bethard post, I doubt this will change anything either.

I'm so happy you found a few posts of yourself backpedaling or simply contradicting the dozens and dozens of Lawrence-Hate posts you spammed the board with in between trying to cover your [BLEEP]. 

How do you not get that "you said what you said?" You said it, you clearly meant it because you blathered about it for months. Posts of your backpedaling after your stupidity was pointed out to you aren't gonna help here. 

LOL

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OK - ON TOPIC:

Opinions wanted:
Who will play the most regular season snaps at Left Guard in 2023? 

1.Tyler Shatley
2. Ben Bartch
3. Walker Little 
4. Someone Else

It's Bartch's job to lose, the question is the health of his knee. I think he outplays Shatley and Little is busy to his left.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Dude how stupid are you? I SAID WHILE OTHERS BLAMED THE WRS, NOT ME. This is the kind of ignorance that has lead to a big majority of this board being ignorant towards me. And if you're referring to the Agnew drop, you should go rewatch that game. Lawrence was over throwing WRs left right and center, all game. Drops weren't the issue for him.

Anyway back to making NYC look like a donkey once again. Check the dates!


Don't see me clamoring to draft someone else, 4 months prior to the draft once we locked into the #1 pick I made my opinions very clear in this post. As i've been saying, over hyped.. not a bust.






I could honestly post 100 more pictures of what i've said, follow it up with things i've said recently and show it all lines up.. but alas, considering the guy i'm replying too can't even comprehend what I said about the WR's regarding the Bethard post, I doubt this will change anything either.

I'm so happy you found a few posts of yourself backpedaling or simply contradicting the dozens and dozens of Lawrence-Hate posts you spammed the board with in between trying to cover your [BLEEP]. 

How do you not get that "you said what you said?" You said it, you clearly meant it because you blathered about it for months. Posts of your backpedaling after your stupidity was pointed out to you aren't gonna help here. 

LOL

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OK - ON TOPIC:

Opinions wanted:
Who will play the most regular season snaps at Left Guard in 2023? 

1.Tyler Shatley
2. Ben Bartch
3. Walker Little 
4. Someone Else

Ben Bartch, Shatley is our interior o-line Swiss army knife.  I would look for our brain trust to sign an aging veteran that was a late cut or cap casualty if it wasn't Bartch. 

BTW...anyone know if Cam loses his guaranteed money now that he has been convicted of using PEDs?  Not the money just the guarantee of it. He had 33 million guaranteed when he signed 1 year in leaves 22 million. Wonder how that actually works.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

I'm so happy you found a few posts of yourself backpedaling or simply contradicting the dozens and dozens of Lawrence-Hate posts you spammed the board with in between trying to cover your [BLEEP]. 

How do you not get that "you said what you said?" You said it, you clearly meant it because you blathered about it for months. Posts of your backpedaling after your stupidity was pointed out to you aren't gonna help here. 

LOL

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OK - ON TOPIC:

Opinions wanted:
Who will play the most regular season snaps at Left Guard in 2023? 

1.Tyler Shatley
2. Ben Bartch
3. Walker Little 
4. Someone Else

Ben Bartch, Shatley is our interior o-line Swiss army knife.  I would look for our brain trust to sign an aging veteran that was a late cut or cap casualty if it wasn't Bartch. 

BTW...anyone know if Cam loses his guaranteed money now that he has been convicted of using PEDs?  Not the money just the guarantee of it. He had 33 million guaranteed when he signed 1 year in leaves 22 million. Wonder how that actually works.

Yes, the suspension voids the guarantee. That's why I advocate cutting him to offload that contract.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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OK - ON TOPIC:

Opinions wanted:
Who will play the most regular season snaps at Left Guard in 2023? 

1.Tyler Shatley
2. Ben Bartch
3. Walker Little 
4. Someone Else

What do we win if we are right? Can I backpedal later if it turns out you misunderstood my opinion? 

I'll say Shatley. Not quite sure where Ben is in his rehab, and if they rush him(or he overconfidently rushes himself) back, I think a re-aggravation may limit him.

Kinda hope we get a third (note: not a turd) to step into the mix and provide a third option. I want Little staying on the outside.

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Dude how stupid are you? I SAID WHILE OTHERS BLAMED THE WRS, NOT ME. This is the kind of ignorance that has lead to a big majority of this board being ignorant towards me. And if you're referring to the Agnew drop, you should go rewatch that game. Lawrence was over throwing WRs left right and center, all game. Drops weren't the issue for him.

Anyway back to making NYC look like a donkey once again. Check the dates!


Don't see me clamoring to draft someone else, 4 months prior to the draft once we locked into the #1 pick I made my opinions very clear in this post. As i've been saying, over hyped.. not a bust.






I could honestly post 100 more pictures of what i've said, follow it up with things i've said recently and show it all lines up.. but alas, considering the guy i'm replying too can't even comprehend what I said about the WR's regarding the Bethard post, I doubt this will change anything either.

I'm so happy you found a few posts of yourself backpedaling or simply contradicting the dozens and dozens of Lawrence-Hate posts you spammed the board with in between trying to cover your [BLEEP]. 

How do you not get that "you said what you said?" You said it, you clearly meant it because you blathered about it for months. Posts of your backpedaling after your stupidity was pointed out to you aren't gonna help here. 

LOL

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OK - ON TOPIC:

Opinions wanted:
Who will play the most regular season snaps at Left Guard in 2023? 

1.Tyler Shatley
2. Ben Bartch
3. Walker Little 
4. Someone Else

I think LG is going to interesting. Leaning towards Ben Bartch for now. I think he'll be a UFA next year in 2024, so, at 24 years of age coming off an IR from last year he'll be the most motivated out there to land the job and keep the job. Hopefully he's had a nice long off season since October of last year to rehab his dislocated knee and get stronger in the weight room.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I’m going with Bartch for now. We need a big year out of him.

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The OL is a big worry with a first place schedule.

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You know you're dealing with a belief system when you get an emotional response. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/jaguars-place-g...42250.html

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Ugh

Bartch on PUP list

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Happy bday Ben

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But then again, he might’ve already played his last game as a Jaguar. Starting out training camp on the Physically Unable to Perform list is not good at all. This is the final year of his contract.

A guy like Cooper Hodges could determine that. We’ll have to wait and see.

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But then again, he might’ve already played his last game as a Jaguar. Starting out training camp on the Physically Unable to Perform list is not good at all. This is the final year of his contract.

A guy like Cooper Hodges could determine that. We’ll have to wait and see.

I still believe he is safe for this year.  They are doing this most likely to ensure he is ready to go when needed. He can still use the facilities, workout on the side. Just can't do team activities.  ALSO, doesn't count on the 90man roster. They are at 91 right now need to get to 90 before camp begins

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

That means the Jaguars could get Robinson back after week 4 and Bartch back a couple weeks later.

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This gives the team more reps and a better look at CVL, Hance, Brewster, Jackson and Hodges.

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Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...99296?s=20

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https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...99296?s=20

I do hope they print this list out and place just inside their lockers for review each day

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...99296?s=20

I do hope they print this list out and place just inside their lockers for review each day

Look at the coach in the picture

His t-shirt says "31st"

They clearly are entering camp with something to prove and put on notice. 

I hope they prove it, because I'm not convinced that 31st rating is terribly inaccurate. 
I'd guess they around 24-26 range until they show me they aren't. 
Trevor and Pederson/Rausch made last year's line look better than it really was.

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31st may be a stretch but easily in bottom half of the league.

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Scouting well is all that matters.  Draft philosophy is all fluff.