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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)


(08-17-2023, 08:19 AM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 08:10 AM)Mikey Wrote: Remind me again why anybody pays attention to dingleberries like Cowherd?

Beats me.

Because if you don't remove them you end up with skid marks.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(08-17-2023, 08:15 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 06:09 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Wow, what a depressing way to say Trevor is undervalued.  Trevor is undervalued because without him, Jacksonville would lose their team to some city in Europe?  Ouch.
Cowherd has been losing it lately.

He made a list of QBs who couldn’t win a Super Bowl this year and named Dwayne Haskins on it….. Who died in April of 2022

technically correct is best kind of correct
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(08-17-2023, 08:10 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 07:34 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: Cowherd's right about Lawrence's value but he repeats a lot of tropes about Jacksonville, most are baseless some are just outdated. He refers to things that happened when the Super Bowl was here. He says we have one decent hotel. He says we have a weak fan base and are basically a college sports town. He says we've always struggled with attendance. He says Trevor is probably the only thing that could prevent the team from relocating to Europe.

Remind me again why anybody pays attention to dingleberries like Cowherd?

Same reason people pay attention to Skip Bayless, they say silly things and people are entertained by it.
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(08-17-2023, 08:15 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 06:09 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Wow, what a depressing way to say Trevor is undervalued.  Trevor is undervalued because without him, Jacksonville would lose their team to some city in Europe?  Ouch.
Cowherd has been losing it lately.

He made a list of QBs who couldn’t win a Super Bowl this year and named Dwayne Haskins on it….. Who died in April of 2022

Serious cringe
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(This post was last modified: 08-17-2023, 11:20 PM by Eric1. Edited 1 time in total.)

Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234
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(08-17-2023, 11:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234

Derek Carr and Dak on this list invalidate the entire thing.
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(08-17-2023, 11:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234
Mahomes and Kelce should be 1.

Im very excited for Lawrence and Ridley but they’re not better than Allen/Diggs yet.
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(08-17-2023, 11:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234

As much as I love the idea of Trevor and Ridley being the best duo in the league, the real question is how do you put anybody above Patty Mahomes and Kelce.
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(08-17-2023, 11:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234

Well it's only a projection and Tlaw and Ridley certainly have the potential to be elite while being young enough to have a few years together.
Pundits do stuff like this to be different and "controversial" and get folks talking about them.
All I can really say though is I hope he's right  Smile
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(08-19-2023, 01:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 11:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234

As much as I love the idea of Trevor and Ridley being the best duo in the league, the real question is how do you put anybody above Patty Mahomes and Kelce.

The other thing is, the Jags have four pretty damn good options in Ridley, Kirk, Jones, and Engram.  I think they spread the ball around a lot and even though Ridley may have a few more receptions I don’t think you see a huge disparity.
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(08-19-2023, 08:58 AM)RicoTx Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 01:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: As much as I love the idea of Trevor and Ridley being the best duo in the league, the real question is how do you put anybody above Patty Mahomes and Kelce.

The other thing is, the Jags have four pretty damn good options in Ridley, Kirk, Jones, and Engram.  I think they spread the ball around a lot and even though Ridley may have a few more receptions I don’t think you see a huge disparity.

What's going to be so exciting is what does a D try to do against that? Double Ridley? Your leaving Zay and Kirk one on one. Send 4 and drop 7? Give Lawrence time and he'll find an open guy. Send the house? That ball is going to the house!

Going to be a fun year!
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(08-19-2023, 06:19 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 08:58 AM)RicoTx Wrote: The other thing is, the Jags have four pretty damn good options in Ridley, Kirk, Jones, and Engram.  I think they spread the ball around a lot and even though Ridley may have a few more receptions I don’t think you see a huge disparity.

What's going to be so exciting is what does a D try to do against that? Double Ridley? Your leaving Zay and Kirk one on one. Send 4 and drop 7? Give Lawrence time and he'll find an open guy. Send the house? That ball is going to the house!

Going to be a fun year!

Take them all out and u have a big tank and raging ETN to deal with!!!!
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Great read about Trevor
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sport...607488007/
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(08-19-2023, 07:11 PM)StrayaJag Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 06:19 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: What's going to be so exciting is what does a D try to do against that? Double Ridley? Your leaving Zay and Kirk one on one. Send 4 and drop 7? Give Lawrence time and he'll find an open guy. Send the house? That ball is going to the house!

Going to be a fun year!

Take them all out and u have a big tank and raging ETN to deal with!!!!

Exactly! Weapons all over the place. Trevors got a lot better at trusting guys and not thinking he has to make wonder plays every snap which he won't have to with all these weapons and knowing the system better.
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(08-19-2023, 07:11 PM)StrayaJag Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 06:19 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: What's going to be so exciting is what does a D try to do against that? Double Ridley? Your leaving Zay and Kirk one on one. Send 4 and drop 7? Give Lawrence time and he'll find an open guy. Send the house? That ball is going to the house!

Going to be a fun year!

Take them all out and u have a big tank and raging ETN to deal with!!!!

This offense really has no excuse not to be top 5 this year honestly
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(08-21-2023, 11:33 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 07:11 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: Take them all out and u have a big tank and raging ETN to deal with!!!!

This offense really has no excuse not to be top 5 this year honestly

I would hope they are at least close to top-5, but it will depend on a whole lot of things that might not be controllable.
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Trevor must also remember that if he has the opportunity to run the ball and defenders close in, SLIDE DAMMIT.

Other than that, yeah, he’ll do fine.
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(This post was last modified: 08-22-2023, 09:07 AM by Mikey.)

(08-19-2023, 01:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(08-17-2023, 11:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Cowherd has Lawrence/Ridley as his #2 QB/WR duo in the NFL. Burrow/Chase were #1.
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/1692286656269738234

As much as I love the idea of Trevor and Ridley being the best duo in the league, the real question is how do you put anybody above Patty Mahomes and Kelce.

because the list asked for best QB and WR tandem?

Good gravy, did I just defend Cowherd? I feel icky.

(08-19-2023, 06:19 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 08:58 AM)RicoTx Wrote: The other thing is, the Jags have four pretty damn good options in Ridley, Kirk, Jones, and Engram.  I think they spread the ball around a lot and even though Ridley may have a few more receptions I don’t think you see a huge disparity.

What's going to be so exciting is what does a D try to do against that? Double Ridley? Your leaving Zay and Kirk one on one. Send 4 and drop 7? Give Lawrence time and he'll find an open guy. Send the house? That ball is going to the house!

Going to be a fun year!

The rush the passer. Reduce the amount of time the defensive backfield has to cover. Pray that the big guys up front stay healthy, folks.
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(08-22-2023, 09:05 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 01:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: As much as I love the idea of Trevor and Ridley being the best duo in the league, the real question is how do you put anybody above Patty Mahomes and Kelce.

because the list asked for best QB and WR tandem?

Good gravy, did I just defend Cowherd? I feel icky.

(08-19-2023, 06:19 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: What's going to be so exciting is what does a D try to do against that? Double Ridley? Your leaving Zay and Kirk one on one. Send 4 and drop 7? Give Lawrence time and he'll find an open guy. Send the house? That ball is going to the house!

Going to be a fun year!

The rush the passer. Reduce the amount of time the defensive backfield has to cover. Pray that the big guys up front stay healthy, folks.

Between CC and CJB I'm not really sure who has the worst take history.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(08-22-2023, 09:05 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(08-19-2023, 01:47 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: As much as I love the idea of Trevor and Ridley being the best duo in the league, the real question is how do you put anybody above Patty Mahomes and Kelce.

because the list asked for best QB and WR tandem?

Good gravy, did I just defend Cowherd? I feel icky.

Well he ranked Mahomes-Kelce 3rd so I don't think that's the reason.
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