And when a State votes to leave?

States are social constructs.  People are people.
Should Duval County be allowed the leave Florida without Florida's permission?

Yes.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

States are social constructs.  People are people.
Should Duval County be allowed the leave Florida without Florida's permission?

Yes.

What if Jax Beach votes to stay while everyone else votes to leave? Does Jax Beach get to secede from Duval County? What if you vote to leave while Jax Beach votes to stay? Do you get to secede from Jax Beach? What if they don't want you to leave?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Yes.

What if Jax Beach votes to stay while everyone else votes to leave? Does Jax Beach get to secede from Duval County? What if you vote to leave while Jax Beach votes to stay? Do you get to secede from Jax Beach? What if they don't want you to leave?

If they people decide to leave then yes. You think you're going to change my answer?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

What if Jax Beach votes to stay while everyone else votes to leave? Does Jax Beach get to secede from Duval County? What if you vote to leave while Jax Beach votes to stay? Do you get to secede from Jax Beach? What if they don't want you to leave?

If they people decide to leave then yes. You think you're going to change my answer?

Of course not.  I'm just exposing its absurdity in case anyone else is reading.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

If they people decide to leave then yes. You think you're going to change my answer?

Of course not.  I'm just exposing its absurdity in case anyone else is reading.

That's fine, it's not like you have a spine anyway. Lick your master's boots Quizzie, I'm sure they love it.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If they people decide to leave then yes. You think you're going to change my answer?

Of course not.  I'm just exposing its absurdity in case anyone else is reading.

You expose absurdity every time you argue like this.

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Of course not.  I'm just exposing its absurdity in case anyone else is reading.

You expose absurdity every time you argue like this.

That's the point.  It's absurd to think that someone should be able to secede from the city or county or state that their house is in, without the city, county, or state agreeing to it.  Yet FSG thinks he should be able to if he want.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You expose absurdity every time you argue like this.

That's the point.  It's absurd to think that someone should be able to secede from the city or county or state that their house is in, without the city, county, or state agreeing to it.  Yet FSG thinks he should be able to if he want.

That's your opinion, trained to do your master's bidding rather than think for yourself.

She meant that you are the absurd one BTW.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You expose absurdity every time you argue like this.

That's the point.  It's absurd to think that someone should be able to secede from the city or county or state that their house is in, without the city, county, or state agreeing to it.  Yet FSG thinks he should be able to if he want.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

That's the point.  It's absurd to think that someone should be able to secede from the city or county or state that their house is in, without the city, county, or state agreeing to it.  Yet FSG thinks he should be able to if he want.

That's your opinion, trained to do your master's bidding rather than think for yourself.

She meant that you are the absurd one BTW.

If thats the case, her military experience might be useful to you in you secession efforts.  See if you can sign her up!

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Of course not.  I'm just exposing its absurdity in case anyone else is reading.

That's fine, it's not like you have a spine anyway. Lick your master's boots Quizzie, I'm sure they love it.

You guys routinely lose arguments with Mike and resort to insults.  It's so predictable.

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Of course not.  I'm just exposing its absurdity in case anyone else is reading.

You expose absurdity every time you argue like this.

Just like that.  In your case, usually just a drive-by insult.

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That's fine, it's not like you have a spine anyway. Lick your master's boots Quizzie, I'm sure they love it.

You guys routinely lose arguments with Mike and resort to insults.  It's so predictable.

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You expose absurdity every time you argue like this.

Just like that.  In your case, usually just a drive-by insult.

I generally apply the Sam Adams response to him, so I'm in pretty good company. Also I don't really give two [BLEEP] about Mike or his rambling thought traps, so sometimes I say stuff just to make his little pea brain explode. I don't really believe that states, counties, or cities should be put in the position to want to secede, but I do think the mechanism should be in place to consider and achieve it. We did that here in NE Florida for a while with the proposed Ocean County that would put Atlantic, Neptune, Jax, and Ponte Vedra beaches into their own county. It didn't happen but that doesn't meant that Duval and SJC would've been right to start a war to prevent it. The States created the federal government and no one has the right to say that the States are inseverable; the very idea that a group of people are forever bound to the lines and relationships drawn by people hundreds of years ago should be anathema to us all. And I've never lost an argument to Mikesez, it's impossible to lose an argument with someone who doesn't have an actual position on damn near anything.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You guys routinely lose arguments with Mike and resort to insults.  It's so predictable.

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Just like that.  In your case, usually just a drive-by insult.

I generally apply the Sam Adams response to him, so I'm in pretty good company. Also I don't really give two [BLEEP] about Mike or his rambling thought traps, so sometimes I say stuff just to make his little pea brain explode. I don't really believe that states, counties, or cities should be put in the position to want to secede, but I do think the mechanism should be in place to consider and achieve it. We did that here in NE Florida for a while with the proposed Ocean County that would put Atlantic, Neptune, Jax, and Ponte Vedra beaches into their own county. It didn't happen but that doesn't meant that Duval and SJC would've been right to start a war to prevent it. The States created the federal government and no one has the right to say that the States are inseverable; the very idea that a group of people are forever bound to the lines and relationships drawn by people hundreds of years ago should be anathema to us all. And I've never lost an argument to Mikesez, it's impossible to lose an argument with someone who doesn't have an actual position on damn near anything.

We agree that the governor of NM should not have done this temporary ban on carrying guns.
We just disagree about why.  You say that it is never ever right for any person in government to stretch their duties and powers in any emergency.  I say it sometimes is, just not now.  I have not fleshed out when "sometimes" might be in the future.  So my argument is admittedly incomplete.   But in your effort to make your argument complete, you have reached into the past and pushed it into the ridiculous and absurd.  My argument is incomplete and plausible.  Yours is complete and absurd.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I generally apply the Sam Adams response to him, so I'm in pretty good company. Also I don't really give two [BLEEP] about Mike or his rambling thought traps, so sometimes I say stuff just to make his little pea brain explode. I don't really believe that states, counties, or cities should be put in the position to want to secede, but I do think the mechanism should be in place to consider and achieve it. We did that here in NE Florida for a while with the proposed Ocean County that would put Atlantic, Neptune, Jax, and Ponte Vedra beaches into their own county. It didn't happen but that doesn't meant that Duval and SJC would've been right to start a war to prevent it. The States created the federal government and no one has the right to say that the States are inseverable; the very idea that a group of people are forever bound to the lines and relationships drawn by people hundreds of years ago should be anathema to us all. And I've never lost an argument to Mikesez, it's impossible to lose an argument with someone who doesn't have an actual position on damn near anything.

We agree that the governor of NM should not have done this temporary ban on carrying guns.
We just disagree about why.  You say that it is never ever right for any person in government to stretch their duties and powers in any emergency.  I say it sometimes is, just not now.  I have not fleshed out when "sometimes" might be in the future.  So my argument is admittedly incomplete.   But in your effort to make your argument complete, you have reached into the past and pushed it into the ridiculous and absurd.  My argument is incomplete and plausible.  Yours is complete and absurd.

You presented the perfect example as to why your argument is flawed when you started on the War of Secession and Martial Law. Your argument isn't incomplete, your argument is foolish.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato