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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)

(This post was last modified: 11-12-2023, 07:54 PM by JagFan81. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-12-2023, 07:06 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 06:57 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Homie you were trying to tell me he was an elite QB amidst one of the worst rookie campaigns I can recall, you were telling me how good he was during an 8 game stretch where he couldnt get the ball to the endzone. You have ridden that bandwagon even when he was awful. The only smart thing that comes from your posts is the blindingly obvious fact that our O line sucks, it's probably why it's the only thing you talk about.

No one here was calling him elite on his rookie year, we were preaching patience.

You however said he was trash, garbage and other opinions. Then got caught using a dual account, lied through your teeth, and still got a second chance from the mods. You then backpedaled and said you never said Trevor was trash, even when shown by other posters multiple times you did in fact. 

You’ve used up your goodwill here in my opinion. If any was left

Well said. Couldn't agree more.

Want to criticise Trevor for today, go ahead, he had a bad game. To try and backtrack on the backtrack? Can't believe he's trying to do it.

I wonder if he still thinks Mac Jones is better?
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(This post was last modified: 11-12-2023, 07:53 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

He's thrown 2 TDs and 3 Ints and a few fumbles in the last 3 games. He has to start playing better starting next week
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(11-12-2023, 07:48 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 07:06 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: No one here was calling him elite on his rookie year, we were preaching patience.

You however said he was trash, garbage and other opinions. Then got caught using a dual account, lied through your teeth, and still got a second chance from the mods. You then backpedaled and said you never said Trevor was trash, even when shown by other posters multiple times you did in fact. 

You’ve used up your goodwill here in my opinion. If any was left

Well said. Couldn't agree more.

Want to criticise Trevor for today, go ahead, he had a bad game. To try and backtrack on the backtrack? Can't believe he's trying to do it.

I wonder if he still thinks Mac Jones is better?

For the love of god some of yall love twisting the truth a lot huh. I said statistically speaking mac jones had a better rookie year, i never claimed him to be a better qb i was highly critical of every qb in that class.
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Not sure if Lawrence will ever be considered in the same league as top QBs - like it or not he will get a big contract here and will continue to build around him, just wish we build a better team becaus my confidence for him isn't that high.
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(11-12-2023, 08:02 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: Not sure if Lawrence will ever be considered in the same league as top QBs - like it or not he will get a big contract here and will continue to build around him, just wish we build a better team becaus my confidence for him isn't that high.

If he continues to play the way he has that contract might b a little more team friendly
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(11-12-2023, 08:28 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 08:02 PM)BaLLin4Life Wrote: Not sure if Lawrence will ever be considered in the same league as top QBs - like it or not he will get a big contract here and will continue to build around him, just wish we build a better team becaus my confidence for him isn't that high.

If he continues to play the way he has that contract might b a little more team friendly
What is team friendly? He is going to get Daniel Jones money.
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Trevor took responsibility. Didn’t point fingers. Didn’t throw the blame on others.

That’s what you want in a franchise QB.
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(11-12-2023, 09:07 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Trevor took responsibility. Didn’t point fingers. Didn’t throw the blame on others.

That’s what you want in a franchise QB.

He has always had good character and been likeable.  Have to perform on the field week in and week out,  put the team on your back.  Win the game for your team,  not win in spite of you or just being moral support.
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(11-12-2023, 07:57 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 07:48 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Well said. Couldn't agree more.

Want to criticise Trevor for today, go ahead, he had a bad game. To try and backtrack on the backtrack? Can't believe he's trying to do it.

I wonder if he still thinks Mac Jones is better?

For the love of god some of yall love twisting the truth a lot huh. I said statistically speaking mac jones had a better rookie year, i never claimed him to be a better qb i was highly critical of every qb in that class.

Multiple people have posted screenshots of your prior takes so stop accusing us of twisting the truth. 

You’re digging your hole further.
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(11-12-2023, 09:16 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 07:57 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: For the love of god some of yall love twisting the truth a lot huh. I said statistically speaking mac jones had a better rookie year, i never claimed him to be a better qb i was highly critical of every qb in that class.

Multiple people have posted screenshots of your prior takes so stop accusing us of twisting the truth. 

You’re digging your hole further.

Lol post a screen shot of me saying mac jones is a better qb.
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(11-12-2023, 10:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://x.com/RSherman_25/status/1723802...54925?s=20

Sherman is just like some on this board someone he has a hot take on has a bad game and he's all over it then disappears. Someone pointed out the drops and tipped passes and horrible o line and he said they were a fan boy and was making excuses. He's just a hater who cares more about being right.
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(This post was last modified: 11-12-2023, 10:44 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 1 time in total.)

Sherman's take is not unreasonable based on how the season has gone so far. Here are the stats

Thru 9 games:
2,120 yds
9 tds
6 ints
6 fumbles
89.3 passer rating
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(This post was last modified: 11-12-2023, 10:56 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 2 times in total.)

(11-12-2023, 10:43 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Sherman's take is not unreasonable based on how the season has gone so far.  Here are the stats

Thru 9 games:
2,120 yds
9 tds
6 ints
6 fumbles
89.3 passer rating

Trevor has regressed a bit from last year and we added Ridley and the 1st 3 picks in the draft were offense.  Hes my favorite player but he has to start playing better.  You can't have more turnovers than TDs.
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(11-12-2023, 10:55 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 10:43 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Sherman's take is not unreasonable based on how the season has gone so far.  Here are the stats

Thru 9 games:
2,120 yds
9 tds
6 ints
6 fumbles
89.3 passer rating

Trevor has regressed a bit from last year and we added Ridley and the 1st 3 picks in the draft were offense.  Hes my favorite player but he has to start playing better.  You can't have more turnovers than TDs.

Watching the games, some of the picks were defensible (tipped balls). 

It’s the fumbles for me. Those are killers. I get that sometimes it’s a blindside rush but you can learn to hold onto the ball. Get the ball out quicker. Throw it away. He needs to get better at this.
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(11-12-2023, 11:27 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 10:55 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Trevor has regressed a bit from last year and we added Ridley and the 1st 3 picks in the draft were offense.  Hes my favorite player but he has to start playing better.  You can't have more turnovers than TDs.

Watching the games, some of the picks were defensible (tipped balls). 

It’s the fumbles for me. Those are killers. I get that sometimes it’s a blindside rush but you can learn to hold onto the ball. Get the ball out quicker. Throw it away. He needs to get better at this.

His fumble numbers are absurd but my main issue with Lawrence is consistency atm. Hes shown that he CAN move the ball, but a lot of the times its like he forgets how to play qb.
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We need the Trevor from the second half of last season back.
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(11-12-2023, 11:27 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 10:55 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Trevor has regressed a bit from last year and we added Ridley and the 1st 3 picks in the draft were offense.  Hes my favorite player but he has to start playing better.  You can't have more turnovers than TDs.

Watching the games, some of the picks were defensible (tipped balls). 

It’s the fumbles for me. Those are killers. I get that sometimes it’s a blindside rush but you can learn to hold onto the ball. Get the ball out quicker. Throw it away. He needs to get better at this.

Some of those fumbles are guys coming off the blindside unblocked but it is a problem.
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(11-12-2023, 11:48 PM)Protozoa Wrote:
(11-12-2023, 11:27 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Watching the games, some of the picks were defensible (tipped balls). 

It’s the fumbles for me. Those are killers. I get that sometimes it’s a blindside rush but you can learn to hold onto the ball. Get the ball out quicker. Throw it away. He needs to get better at this.

Some of those fumbles are guys coming off the blindside unblocked but it is a problem.

For sure, but hold onto it. Act like you’ve been hit before. 

For the INTs I meant to say bouncing off receivers. Two alone have been Bisbgy by the way. What a wasted awful draft pick. Johnson outperformed his whole season so far today with a few carries
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(11-12-2023, 11:44 PM)Jag88 Wrote: We need the Trevor from the second half of last season back.

And we need him for a whole season. That's my biggest concern it's year three and he hasn't had a complete good season yet.
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