I think he's proving to the league this year that he's a #2 receiver. Maybe he can be had on a team-friendly deal as a result. Forget $18M/year. More like $12M that could be reaches with incentives -- one being the number of drops.

There is no way Ridley signs for less than Kirk imo.

Kirk was 25 when he signed

Ridley will be 29 at the time of negotiation

Anyone giving Ridley a long term deal that doesn't have a team friendly out clause after 2 or 3 years would be unwise. 

Kirk's deal was $37 million guaranteed with possibility to make a lot more. Ridley is already making 11 mil. 
If they want to offer him 12-13 per year for three years plus big incentives, I'd be good with it. 
That's ASSUMING he finishes the year strong of course. We'll see.

With too many more miscues and not enough difference made over the next several weeks, then I'd let him walk.

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It's all speculative regarding that $18M+ mark per year for Ridley.

It's also funny that we're more concerned with a 2nd RD pick as an unknown commodity with a current front office that's had a ho-hum history so far with finding immediate impact players in said round.

I don't get it. As far as Ridley wanting more than Kirk? Again, speculative. He was 26 years old when he signed his deal, which is only 16th by the way in terms of highest paid receivers on average based on this year. Also, to be fair to Ridley, he's the 4th highest paid receiver at the moment on this team and being asked to do more and be more than guys like Kirk, Jones and Agnew who are all ahead of him.

Even if Ridley came in and said, "Give me $18.5M or $19M", I think you have to consider it. This would literally put him above or around guys like Diontae Johnson, Brandin Cooks, Chris Godwin, Mike Williams & Amari Cooper. Which, at this age? It's pretty fair value. All things considered.

Would still be interested to see who all you guys have on your radar in this draft that would do better as an unknown commodity in the exact same position as Ridley as well as who would you go out and invest in via the market, because, Higgins is going to cost you more than that per year, without ever being a true #1 receiver as well, and, again, we're not a superstar WR away from winning it all folks. It's cute to dream. It's not the reality though until the line play improves.

You guys want to inherit Adams $28M cap hit? With probably giving up more than a 2nd round pick? Knock yourself out. What about Kupp? If the Rams are trying to fire sale a guy or two? Would you be comfortable eating his $26.7M cap hit for multiple picks? Given his durability concerns? Diggs with his $24M hit and diva tendencies? Who has fallen short with Buffalo since he's been there?

I don't know. Maybe I am overthinking it.

Diggs and Adams actually are elite so yea, that's better than signing and giving up a 2nd for Ridley.

Kupp is a slot player and the Jags have Kirk so that's a no.

Almost all WRs are divas by nature. They want the ball. Can't blame Diggs for not winning a SB when they lost a playoff game because the Bills didn't get the coin to flip their way in OT.

Again. This argument isn't really about Calvin Ridley as much as it is giving up major resources to secure a player who currently isn't that great. 

And you keep harping on Baalke not hitting on draft picks. So if he's here, you wanna take away more draft picks which gives him even less odds to hit on a good player?

We all want the Jags to upgrade the Oline. That's priority #1. So what's the best way to do that? Use money and draft picks right? And the more money and draft picks they have, the better their chances are of doing that.

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OBJ signed a 1 year 15 mil deal coming off an injury at age 30. There is half a season to be played and possibly the playoffs to determine what Ridley makes. Can't put a price on it yet. Hopefully he closes the season with high level play

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It's all speculative regarding that $18M+ mark per year for Ridley.

It's also funny that we're more concerned with a 2nd RD pick as an unknown commodity with a current front office that's had a ho-hum history so far with finding immediate impact players in said round.

I don't get it. As far as Ridley wanting more than Kirk? Again, speculative. He was 26 years old when he signed his deal, which is only 16th by the way in terms of highest paid receivers on average based on this year. Also, to be fair to Ridley, he's the 4th highest paid receiver at the moment on this team and being asked to do more and be more than guys like Kirk, Jones and Agnew who are all ahead of him.

Even if Ridley came in and said, "Give me $18.5M or $19M", I think you have to consider it. This would literally put him above or around guys like Diontae Johnson, Brandin Cooks, Chris Godwin, Mike Williams & Amari Cooper. Which, at this age? It's pretty fair value. All things considered.

Would still be interested to see who all you guys have on your radar in this draft that would do better as an unknown commodity in the exact same position as Ridley as well as who would you go out and invest in via the market, because, Higgins is going to cost you more than that per year, without ever being a true #1 receiver as well, and, again, we're not a superstar WR away from winning it all folks. It's cute to dream. It's not the reality though until the line play improves.

You guys want to inherit Adams $28M cap hit? With probably giving up more than a 2nd round pick? Knock yourself out. What about Kupp? If the Rams are trying to fire sale a guy or two? Would you be comfortable eating his $26.7M cap hit for multiple picks? Given his durability concerns? Diggs with his $24M hit and diva tendencies? Who has fallen short with Buffalo since he's been there?

I don't know. Maybe I am overthinking it.

Diggs and Adams actually are elite so yea, that's better than signing and giving up a 2nd for Ridley.

Kupp is a slot player and the Jags have Kirk so that's a no.

Almost all WRs are divas by nature. They want the ball. Can't blame Diggs for not winning a SB when they lost a playoff game because the Bills didn't get the coin to flip their way in OT.

Again. This argument isn't really about Calvin Ridley as much as it is giving up major resources to secure a player who currently isn't that great. 

And you keep harping on Baalke not hitting on draft picks. So if he's here, you wanna take away more draft picks which gives him even less odds to hit on a good player?

We all want the Jags to upgrade the Oline. That's priority #1. So what's the best way to do that? Use money and draft picks right? And the more money and draft picks they have, the better their chances are of doing that.

My guy, he had 13 picks back in April and so far he's maybe hit on 3 of them. Harrison, Johnson and Washington. Can we really afford for this team to drop yet another 2nd RD pick on a "Well, we'll see him improve next year".

This is why we're in this position now. Because we kept drafting hope players and shelf players early instead of guys that were more complete and ready to go out the box. You're also not factoring in that you're not just getting an Adams or Diggs.

You're giving up PICKS for them. Adams signed a 5 year, $140M deal LAST year. He's not coming off of that price tag and his price tag would be MORE than a 2nd RD pick. PERIOD. Same for Diggs. He signed his deal LAST year. 4 year, $104M. And, again, Buffalo will want MORE than just a 2nd RD pick for him. 

In your scenario? You're looking to have the team not only pay more per year, but, also, easily give up more draft picks with too many holes to fill. Just my opinion.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

He just seems disinterested at times.

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OBJ signed a 1 year 15 mil deal coming off an injury at age 30.  There is half a season to be played and possibly the playoffs to determine what Ridley makes.  Can't put a price on it yet.  Hopefully he closes the season with high level play

Exactly. Plenty of football left for Ridley to play like a lost cause or elevate his play and thus his value. That was the risk this team took last year when they traded for him. I still don't think we'd have to break the bank for him next year to keep him here.

They may even work something out to game the system and trade deal language to where they lose one of their two third round picks anyways. We can thank the Chiefs for that one. They took a huge burden off of our hands with Taylor and we're both in the same boat eight months later. 

It's [BLEEP] hilarious. This is why I appreciate and respect some of the things Baalke has done in the trading market and free agency market but he falls a little short in the drafting arena. We just need another layer I think to help us out with a better set of eyes and feel for that aspect of this business and we'd probably turn some of this [BLEEP] around quickly by next year instead of waiting after big extensions are doled out and we're hampered already looking at 2025 and 2026.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Diggs and Adams actually are elite so yea, that's better than signing and giving up a 2nd for Ridley.

Kupp is a slot player and the Jags have Kirk so that's a no.

Almost all WRs are divas by nature. They want the ball. Can't blame Diggs for not winning a SB when they lost a playoff game because the Bills didn't get the coin to flip their way in OT.

Again. This argument isn't really about Calvin Ridley as much as it is giving up major resources to secure a player who currently isn't that great. 

And you keep harping on Baalke not hitting on draft picks. So if he's here, you wanna take away more draft picks which gives him even less odds to hit on a good player?

We all want the Jags to upgrade the Oline. That's priority #1. So what's the best way to do that? Use money and draft picks right? And the more money and draft picks they have, the better their chances are of doing that.

My guy, he had 13 picks back in April and so far he's maybe hit on 3 of them. Harrison, Johnson and Washington. Can we really afford for this team to drop yet another 2nd RD pick on a "Well, we'll see him improve next year".

This is why we're in this position now. Because we kept drafting hope players and shelf players early instead of guys that were more complete and ready to go out the box. You're also not factoring in that you're not just getting an Adams or Diggs.

You're giving up PICKS for them. Adams signed a 5 year, $140M deal LAST year. He's not coming off of that price tag and his price tag would be MORE than a 2nd RD pick. PERIOD. Same for Diggs. He signed his deal LAST year. 4 year, $104M. And, again, Buffalo will want MORE than just a 2nd RD pick for him. 

In your scenario? You're looking to have the team not only pay more per year, but, also, easily give up more draft picks with too many holes to fill. Just my opinion.

I understand I would be giving up picks and having to pay them but I'm paying for an elite player. Not some guy who is inconsistent week in and week out.

And if I had the choice between giving up picks and money for Adams/Diggs or Ridley? The decision is very very easy.

My main option is to do neither of those but if given the choice, it's Adams or Diggs.

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Diggs and Adams actually are elite so yea, that's better than signing and giving up a 2nd for Ridley.

Kupp is a slot player and the Jags have Kirk so that's a no.

Almost all WRs are divas by nature. They want the ball. Can't blame Diggs for not winning a SB when they lost a playoff game because the Bills didn't get the coin to flip their way in OT.

Again. This argument isn't really about Calvin Ridley as much as it is giving up major resources to secure a player who currently isn't that great. 

And you keep harping on Baalke not hitting on draft picks. So if he's here, you wanna take away more draft picks which gives him even less odds to hit on a good player?

We all want the Jags to upgrade the Oline. That's priority #1. So what's the best way to do that? Use money and draft picks right? And the more money and draft picks they have, the better their chances are of doing that.

My guy, he had 13 picks back in April and so far he's maybe hit on 3 of them. Harrison, Johnson and Washington. Can we really afford for this team to drop yet another 2nd RD pick on a "Well, we'll see him improve next year".

This is why we're in this position now. Because we kept drafting hope players and shelf players early instead of guys that were more complete and ready to go out the box. You're also not factoring in that you're not just getting an Adams or Diggs.

You're giving up PICKS for them. Adams signed a 5 year, $140M deal LAST year. He's not coming off of that price tag and his price tag would be MORE than a 2nd RD pick. PERIOD. Same for Diggs. He signed his deal LAST year. 4 year, $104M. And, again, Buffalo will want MORE than just a 2nd RD pick for him. 

In your scenario? You're looking to have the team not only pay more per year, but, also, easily give up more draft picks with too many holes to fill. Just my opinion.

7 of those 13 picks were wing and a prayer late rounder's Baalke got stuck with when he couldn't trade up. 
Odds of hitting on any of those are about equal to what he may be getting out of them. Potentially two, maybe 3 developmental guys who might be starter material at some point or decent depth. 

FWIW - If Ridley has a big game or two over the next 4-6 games (fingers crossed) then I'd value keeping him over rolling the dice on a pick replacing his numbers in the coming draft - but even that may be contingent on how the staff evaluates his mental fortitude. 

If his body language and frustration are just a product of a competitor that wears his heart on his sleeve too much, I can live with that, but if they feel his emotional displays etc are a detriment to his performance, then it is better to seek out a player that's more steady that way.

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My guy, he had 13 picks back in April and so far he's maybe hit on 3 of them. Harrison, Johnson and Washington. Can we really afford for this team to drop yet another 2nd RD pick on a "Well, we'll see him improve next year".

This is why we're in this position now. Because we kept drafting hope players and shelf players early instead of guys that were more complete and ready to go out the box. You're also not factoring in that you're not just getting an Adams or Diggs.

You're giving up PICKS for them. Adams signed a 5 year, $140M deal LAST year. He's not coming off of that price tag and his price tag would be MORE than a 2nd RD pick. PERIOD. Same for Diggs. He signed his deal LAST year. 4 year, $104M. And, again, Buffalo will want MORE than just a 2nd RD pick for him. 

In your scenario? You're looking to have the team not only pay more per year, but, also, easily give up more draft picks with too many holes to fill. Just my opinion.

I understand I would be giving up picks and having to pay them but I'm paying for an elite player. Not some guy who is inconsistent week in and week out.

And if I had the choice between giving up picks and money for Adams/Diggs or Ridley? The decision is very very easy.

My main option is to do neither of those but if given the choice, it's Adams or Diggs.

You're paying for an elite player on a team that has probably anywhere between four to eight elite problems to solve on both sides of the football right now at the minimum. Adams has been pretty damn good the last two years. On a 12 - 19 football club. . .

Last night was his first 100+ yard game since week three and he went seven straight weeks without a TD at one point. That's because he's currently playing on a team with elite problems. Between the coaching staff, some injuries and some lack of talent in some areas.

You can't say it's been the defense as the issue there in Vegas neither. They're middle of the pack with their offense being 29th overall. 

So much for elitism there I guess.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I understand I would be giving up picks and having to pay them but I'm paying for an elite player. Not some guy who is inconsistent week in and week out.

And if I had the choice between giving up picks and money for Adams/Diggs or Ridley? The decision is very very easy.

My main option is to do neither of those but if given the choice, it's Adams or Diggs.

You're paying for an elite player on a team that has probably anywhere between four to eight elite problems to solve on both sides of the football right now at the minimum. Adams has been pretty damn good the last two years. On a 12 - 19 football club. . .

Last night was his first 100+ yard game since week three and he went seven straight weeks without a TD at one point. That's because he's currently playing on a team with elite problems. Between the coaching staff, some injuries and some lack of talent in some areas.

You can't say it's been the defense as the issue there in Vegas neither. They're middle of the pack with their offense being 29th overall. 

So much for elitism there I guess.

If you think that Adams is part of the reason they're losing, then this conversation is going no where.

It couldn't possibly be because they had a horrible HC and incompetent QB play. No. It's definitely because of Adams who is on pace for about 1,300 yards and 8 TDs with Oconnnell and Jimmy G as his QB.

Try and separate elite players who can't control their QB situation.

Not to mention, if we were to do it your way, they're paying for a non elite player when they have 4-8 elite problems. Brilliant.

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You're paying for an elite player on a team that has probably anywhere between four to eight elite problems to solve on both sides of the football right now at the minimum. Adams has been pretty damn good the last two years. On a 12 - 19 football club. . .

Last night was his first 100+ yard game since week three and he went seven straight weeks without a TD at one point. That's because he's currently playing on a team with elite problems. Between the coaching staff, some injuries and some lack of talent in some areas.

You can't say it's been the defense as the issue there in Vegas neither. They're middle of the pack with their offense being 29th overall. 

So much for elitism there I guess.

If you think that Adams is part of the reason they're losing, then this conversation is going no where.

It couldn't possibly be because they had a horrible HC and incompetent QB play. No. It's definitely because of Adams who is on pace for about 1,300 yards and 8 TDs with Oconnnell and Jimmy G as his QB.

Try and separate elite players who can't control their QB situation.

Not to mention, if we were to do it your way, they're paying for a non elite player when they have 4-8 elite problems. Brilliant.

I don't think Adams is part of the problem there. As cited above, they have a plethora of issues. Probably starts with ownership. As far as QB play? Look, Scary Terry has no problems producing in Washington, in arguably, a much tougher division and David Moore is making Justin Fields look competent. [BLEEP], before Tyreek Hill arrived in Miami? Tua was on the verge of being Mac'ed Jones.

I am not saying Adams isn't worth the investment. What I am saying, is that, he's not going to be the guy that puts this team over the hill because this team currently can barely muster enough strength with their lineman to push guys downhill and they play like they have to overcome an uphill battle every week. 

We can agree to disagree. But, I'll happily fork over a late 2nd RD pick for a guy coming back in year two for less than $20M Vs. forking over probably a late 1st RD pick and a combination of other picks in addition to inheriting a mammoth contract while knowing we have Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence and more holes to fill. 

At this point, me and you are just [BLEEP] shoveling snow at each other's driveway and it's hilarious. I like you! Cheers! LOL.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

My guy, he had 13 picks back in April and so far he's maybe hit on 3 of them. Harrison, Johnson and Washington. Can we really afford for this team to drop yet another 2nd RD pick on a "Well, we'll see him improve next year".

This is why we're in this position now. Because we kept drafting hope players and shelf players early instead of guys that were more complete and ready to go out the box. You're also not factoring in that you're not just getting an Adams or Diggs.

You're giving up PICKS for them. Adams signed a 5 year, $140M deal LAST year. He's not coming off of that price tag and his price tag would be MORE than a 2nd RD pick. PERIOD. Same for Diggs. He signed his deal LAST year. 4 year, $104M. And, again, Buffalo will want MORE than just a 2nd RD pick for him. 

In your scenario? You're looking to have the team not only pay more per year, but, also, easily give up more draft picks with too many holes to fill. Just my opinion.

7 of those 13 picks were wing and a prayer late rounder's Baalke got stuck with when he couldn't trade up. 
Odds of hitting on any of those are about equal to what he may be getting out of them. Potentially two, maybe 3 developmental guys who might be starter material at some point or decent depth. 

FWIW - If Ridley has a big game or two over the next 4-6 games (fingers crossed) then I'd value keeping him over rolling the dice on a pick replacing his numbers in the coming draft - but even that may be contingent on how the staff evaluates his mental fortitude. 

If his body language and frustration are just a product of a competitor that wears his heart on his sleeve too much, I can live with that, but if they feel his emotional displays etc are a detriment to his performance, then it is better to seek out a player that's more steady that way.

100% agreed. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't at the moment and going into next year anyway. Fingers crossed for sure that he's just a late bloomer here and hopefully he's the reason we beat the Ravens this Sunday and not see two INT's added to Lawrence's stat sheet again. 

It's been frustrating. I was [BLEEP] furious back in week two with his performance against the Chiefs. But, he's had some good games and big catch moments. As much as he's pissed me off with some easy drops? He makes laser catches look easy at times for Lawrence. He's at least caught two or three of those [BLEEP] insane fire whip throws that Lawrence doles out from time to time. 

Had a good opener, got quiet for a few weeks, then he showed up in London against the Bills and had a good little four week stretch minus the loss to the 49ers where he helped us win against the Steelers on the road, the tacks at home and the tinhorns on the road. Should he have more yards? Hell yeah. Out of his 97 targets this year he's had at least 7 big time plays dropped. 

Not a fan of that. He needs to clean that up. But, it still makes me wonder just how good he COULD be in year two with Lawrence and this system, and especially if they get this damn offensive line fixed up some.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It's all speculative regarding that $18M+ mark per year for Ridley.

It's also funny that we're more concerned with a 2nd RD pick as an unknown commodity with a current front office that's had a ho-hum history so far with finding immediate impact players in said round.

I don't get it. As far as Ridley wanting more than Kirk? Again, speculative. He was 26 years old when he signed his deal, which is only 16th by the way in terms of highest paid receivers on average based on this year. Also, to be fair to Ridley, he's the 4th highest paid receiver at the moment on this team and being asked to do more and be more than guys like Kirk, Jones and Agnew who are all ahead of him.

Even if Ridley came in and said, "Give me $18.5M or $19M", I think you have to consider it. This would literally put him above or around guys like Diontae Johnson, Brandin Cooks, Chris Godwin, Mike Williams & Amari Cooper. Which, at this age? It's pretty fair value. All things considered.

Would still be interested to see who all you guys have on your radar in this draft that would do better as an unknown commodity in the exact same position as Ridley as well as who would you go out and invest in via the market, because, Higgins is going to cost you more than that per year, without ever being a true #1 receiver as well, and, again, we're not a superstar WR away from winning it all folks. It's cute to dream. It's not the reality though until the line play improves.

You guys want to inherit Adams $28M cap hit? With probably giving up more than a 2nd round pick? Knock yourself out. What about Kupp? If the Rams are trying to fire sale a guy or two? Would you be comfortable eating his $26.7M cap hit for multiple picks? Given his durability concerns? Diggs with his $24M hit and diva tendencies? Who has fallen short with Buffalo since he's been there?

I don't know. Maybe I am overthinking it.

Diggs and Adams actually are elite so yea, that's better than signing and giving up a 2nd for Ridley.

Kupp is a slot player and the Jags have Kirk so that's a no.

Almost all WRs are divas by nature. They want the ball. Can't blame Diggs for not winning a SB when they lost a playoff game because the Bills didn't get the coin to flip their way in OT.

Again. This argument isn't really about Calvin Ridley as much as it is giving up major resources to secure a player who currently isn't that great. 

And you keep harping on Baalke not hitting on draft picks. So if he's here, you wanna take away more draft picks which gives him even less odds to hit on a good player?

We all want the Jags to upgrade the Oline. That's priority #1. So what's the best way to do that? Use money and draft picks right? And the more money and draft picks they have, the better their chances are of doing that.

The name of the thread is 'Ridley', and your verbiage in bold is the exact definition of what Ridley has been for us. So how is this argument not about Ridley?

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

Diggs and Adams actually are elite so yea, that's better than signing and giving up a 2nd for Ridley.

Kupp is a slot player and the Jags have Kirk so that's a no.

Almost all WRs are divas by nature. They want the ball. Can't blame Diggs for not winning a SB when they lost a playoff game because the Bills didn't get the coin to flip their way in OT.

Again. This argument isn't really about Calvin Ridley as much as it is giving up major resources to secure a player who currently isn't that great. 

And you keep harping on Baalke not hitting on draft picks. So if he's here, you wanna take away more draft picks which gives him even less odds to hit on a good player?

We all want the Jags to upgrade the Oline. That's priority #1. So what's the best way to do that? Use money and draft picks right? And the more money and draft picks they have, the better their chances are of doing that.

The name of the thread is 'Ridley', and your verbiage in bold is the exact definition of what Ridley has been for us. So how is this argument not about Ridley?

I meant it in regards to if I like Ridley as a player. I think Ridley is fine. I loved that they took a gamble on him.

However, I'm not sure he's worth a 2nd round pick and an extension. This team has to fix the Oline and in order to do that, they need all the resources they can get. Using them on a non-elite player just doesn't make sense to me.

That's the gist of it I guess.

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The name of the thread is 'Ridley', and your verbiage in bold is the exact definition of what Ridley has been for us. So how is this argument not about Ridley?

I meant it in regards to if I like Ridley as a player. I think Ridley is fine. I loved that they took a gamble on him.

However, I'm not sure he's worth a 2nd round pick and an extension. This team has to fix the Oline and in order to do that, they need all the resources they can get. Using them on a non-elite player just doesn't make sense to me.

That's the gist of it I guess.

Ah gotcha. Makes sense, and i agree. Gotta fix the OL above all else.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

I'd rather just sign Mike Evans if possible. We wouldn't have to trade for him, he's an elite WR, and the perfect type of WR this team needs and Trevor needs. Would be a perfect fit for both parties

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I'd rather just sign Mike Evans if possible.  We wouldn't have to trade for him, he's an elite WR, and the perfect type of WR this team needs and Trevor needs.  Would be a perfect fit for both parties

Evans is a very good wr. Hall of fame prospect.

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At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter how great your skill positions are if you're garbage in the trenches. Football will always be won, or loss due to the trenches.

Focus on the OL and DL and the rest will usually take care of its self in most cases.

I think we all agree that they need to build the trenches and more specifically the interior of both lines.

So would you like to give up valuable resources to sign Ridley? 18 million a year and a 2nd rounder? 

That’s my only hold up here. I think Ridley is pretty good but giving up money AND a draft pick is what’s holding me back. Another player would only cost the Jags one or the other.

If it was up to me, I'd slap the Non-Exclusive Franchise tag on Ridley. That'd give us the chance to match any offer another team would make, or it would give us two 1st round picks if he signed else where.

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There is half a season to be played

The Jaguars have 4 games left in the regular season.

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I'd rather just sign Mike Evans if possible.  We wouldn't have to trade for him, he's an elite WR, and the perfect type of WR this team needs and Trevor needs.  Would be a perfect fit for both parties

Evans is a very good wr. Hall of fame prospect.

I like comparing Mike Evan’s stats to Jimmy Smith’s.

Mike Evans is 30 years old and has 11,445 receiving yards on 745 receptions. 

Jimmy Smith age 30 to 36 = 8249 yards receiving on 597 receptions.

*Jimmy Smith from age 23 to 26 = 288 yards receiving on 22 catches. 

*Mike Evans came into the league 2 years sooner than Smith, but from age 21 to 26 = 7,260 yards receiving on 462 catches.

If Jimmy Smith could have been a full-time starter from age 21 to 26 he would have added another 7500 yards to his totals, which would put him somewhere around 20,000 receiving yards, which would rank him 2nd All-Time behind Jerry Rice, who finished with 22,895 receiving yards.

They say Jerry Rice’s records will never be broken, but I swear to god on my momma if Jimmy Smith could have been a 16 game starter from the age of 21 to 36 he would have finished with around 20k. Look at Larry Fitzgerald’s numbers, as a 16 game starter, he had 8 seasons where he didn’t have 1,000 yards receiving. My boy Jim had 1, and that was because of the 4 game suspension or he would have 10 straight. 

Evans and many other WRs in this era got a head start on Jaguars Legend Jimmy Smith of about 6 full seasons.

How a player can retire and be in the top 10 in receiving in NFL History….We’re talking of ALL-TIME…From 1920 until 2005…and that player not be elected in the Pro Football Hall of Fame is crazy.

Mike is 30, which is when Jimmy led the NFL in receptions with 116 in 1999. Then came back the following year to catch 91 balls, then 112. 

I don’t see Mike leading the NFL this year in receptions. He currently has 63 catches which means he would need 53 catches over the last 4 games to match Smith’s numbers in 1999. 

If they put Mike in, which they will, they better put Jimmy in. They better look at the numbers and check the tape. I agree Mike Evans is a very good wr. Jimmy Smith was an elite WR.

-Stizzle Mizzle

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