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Trevor Lawrence: Franchise QB (TL Discussion, Merged Threads)
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(12-18-2023, 07:06 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(12-18-2023, 06:20 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: A good QB masks poor offensive line play.So is Mahomes not elite? Our o line sucks, but that was something else. He was pressured on something in the 90% of plays. It was ridiculous. He was facing the best pass rush in the NFL with nobodies starting at both tackles, it's not remotely comparable. But to answer your question, he made multiple insane throws while being slung to the ground that could have been TDs if the WRs didnt drop the passes. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-18-2023, 06:52 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote:(12-18-2023, 06:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: you can only put so much lipstick on a pig.So when Trevor does good is only on Trevor but when he does bad it's the OLine ? This thread in two sentences. (12-18-2023, 07:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(12-18-2023, 06:52 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: So when Trevor does good is only on Trevor but when he does bad it's the OLine ? Your posting in this forum will keep TL from getting injured? Ok… If only all the world’s problems were so easily solved with keyboards, pizza boxes and empty Coke cans.
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The Ravens Oline looked pretty bad in pass pro in the game, but the diference is Lamar Killed us when he had a chance and Trevor didn't kill the ravens when he had the chance...but we have to consider that Lamar is older and more experienced, so Trevor is going to learn from this games, he is fine.
Last night they said the Defense goes as far as Josh Allen goes and Trevor is the same for the offense. He is our franchise QB, and we got to remember that he still very young (24)
I just don’t get the discourse here. It’s fair to criticize him and certain plays. We all do it.
But do we just dismiss the Bengals game? He was incredible.Then he plays the 2 best defenses in the league in back to back weeks. In one of those games he puts up 27 points only to see the defense lose the game and in the other, the team makes so many mental mistakes. All while having a bum ankle and knee. I guess it comes with the position but to see so many people flip flop about him weekly is exhausting. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-18-2023, 07:41 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:(12-18-2023, 06:52 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: So when Trevor does good is only on Trevor but when he does bad it's the OLine ? LOL Not my posting - but the constant suggestion of fixing the damn line have proven salient. I don't drink soda
(12-18-2023, 10:56 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: I just don’t get the discourse here. It’s fair to criticize him and certain plays. We all do it. This is where I’m at. Do people really want to return to the days of Garrard, Leftwich, Gabbert, Bortles, Kessler, etc? Because odds are that’s what we will get if we cut loose with Trevor and try to draft again. This franchise has terrible luck and won’t get a Stroud.
Since we can't run the ball, the opposing defense can rush the passer, and the opposing DBs can cover tight because they know Trevor won't have time beyond his first read.
It's that simple. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-18-2023, 06:52 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote:(12-18-2023, 06:42 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: you can only put so much lipstick on a pig.So when Trevor does good is only on Trevor but when he does bad it's the OLine ? Give Trevor 7 seconds like Lamar had. You think he can find an open man and gun the ball right to him? Give Trevor a line he can rely on keep pressure off for more than a second and a half, watch what happens. You've seen him drop some beautiful passes. You know he is capable of every dang throw. The problem is that he doesn't have time to run progressions to find the open guy, he's running for his life, or he's already hobbled due to past failure of the line. You're equating a symptom (Trevor's mistakes) with cause (historical ineptitude in front of him). Ben was a statue. Eli won more because the Giants D put tawmy on his rear, something nobody else managed to do. Luck was broken and retired well before he should have been because they did nothing to keep him upright. Rivers never made it to the big dance. Marino only once. Romo shrank in big games, not even going to entertain him in the discussion of some of the league's best QBs, not to mention one of Dallas' strengths have been their OL, they put resources into the line and that was a strength. Grape jerb, nice try. (12-19-2023, 08:33 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: This is where I’m at. You definitely don't want to dump him and you are right it's hard to draft one. The issue is if he isn't good enough. If you keep him and he is just ok, the team has a ceiling that it can't overcome without everyone else, including coaching, being better than the other team. If he isn't good enough, it's almost better to just cut it early and move on. Tank and start the rebuild so you have an early enough pick to find a QB. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk
You people are bordering on insanity.
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(12-19-2023, 01:23 PM)Mikey Wrote:Yes because Baltimore gave 7 seconds to Lamar it wasn't Lamar amazing awareness and capabilties that avoid and escape pressure(12-18-2023, 06:52 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: So when Trevor does good is only on Trevor but when he does bad it's the OLine ?
(12-19-2023, 01:23 PM)Mikey Wrote:(12-18-2023, 06:52 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: So when Trevor does good is only on Trevor but when he does bad it's the OLine ? 1. Go look at his two SB runs and tell me how his oline was and how many times he was running for his life. Ben was a "statue" is a lazy argument because he was a natural thrower of the football - but Ben was one of the best at avoiding sacks. 2. Again, look at Elis oline in the SB runs. Get back at me. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
The hate continues.
https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1737...-7r0g&s=19 Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (12-19-2023, 07:37 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote:(12-19-2023, 01:23 PM)Mikey Wrote: Give Trevor 7 seconds like Lamar had. You think he can find an open man and gun the ball right to him? youre talking about specific outcomes that have occurred over the span of careers and comparing to 3 years. Its interesting you mention Eli, Trevor is playing very similar, the stats and the 8-6 record are very Eli. Yet who had the better defense How does Coughlin's influence factor into those Super Bowl runs Just a reminder, one playoff birth and on the way to another in the first 3 years
(12-19-2023, 08:13 PM)jagshype Wrote:I'm talking about their respectable olines.(12-19-2023, 07:37 PM)Shad Khans Mustache Wrote: 1. |
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