1. Geno last four games were pretty good and showed progress.

 

2. They got it right because they picked a good player this time. I don't believe any team would say : "Hey he's not as good as the other players available and I'm not sure he won't bust, but we need a QB so..."

 

1. Geno has never shown he was ever worth selecting second overall, which is exactly what the folks in those threads were suggesting.

 

2. The people that overrate players certainly do, even though they don't realize that's what they're doing because they're in love with the player.  They certainly thought Carr was good and the right choice when they selected him, didn't they?  Or were they blinded by their desperation to manufacture a QB in a class where there wasn't one?

 

Sounds a lot like the same questions teams are facing again this year if they need a QB.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

In both the Colts and Texans situations, the people that ultimately lost their jobs were pretty much out the door at seasons end regardless. A few extra wins added to what they got in those seasons wouldn't have altered anything as far as that goes. 

 

It would certainly alter their future employment chances.

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Just to be different, Bortles.

Just like the Geno threads.

They dont bump up the Geno threads.

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1. Geno has never shown he was ever worth selecting second overall, which is exactly what the folks in those threads were suggesting.

Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson, Dion Jordan, Tavon Austin, Dee Milliner, EJ Manuel and Jarvis Jones all had a rookie year as inconsistent as Geno Smith, even worse for some of them. I would even add Joeckel to the list. Weren't they worth their respective top 20 pick or that only works for Geno ?

 

 

 

2. The people that overrate players certainly do, even though they don't realize that's what they're doing because they're in love with the player.  They certainly thought Carr was good and the right choice when they selected him, didn't they?  Or were they blinded by their desperation to manufacture a QB in a class where there wasn't one?

Carr was lauded as the unanimous 1st overall pick during the whole offseason process like you want Bridgewater to be to be worth a top 5 pick. He wasn't a last minute manufactured prospect. Sometimes, everyone just gets it wrong.

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It would certainly alter their future employment chances.

That doesn't matter though. If you remember, those coaches took under the table bribes from there respective owners to ensure that they tanked the season. Future employment is not as significant if you consider the lucrative nature of losing on purpose with their previous teams.


Cha-ching!

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They dont bump up the Geno threads.

 

Oh yes, it's certainly happened.  Probably would have happened more if most of them weren't axed after the board change.

 

I happens every year.  A couple years ago it was about how Garrard was going to win the job in Miami, the next it was about how he was going to win the job with the Jets, then it was how Geno was the man to take at #2, and now it's about how Ted's the savior.

 

So many proclamations of things that "will happen" don't come to fruition, and this might end up being just one more of them.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson, Dion Jordan, Tavon Austin, Dee Milliner, EJ Manuel and Jarvis Jones all had a rookie year as inconsistent as Geno Smith, even worse for some of them. I would even add Joeckel to the list. Weren't they worth their respective top 20 pick or that only works for Geno ?

 

Carr was lauded as the unanimous 1st overall pick during the whole offseason process like you want Bridgewater to be to be worth a top 5 pick. He wasn't a last minute manufactured prospect. Sometimes, everyone just gets it wrong.

 

Geno was certainly not worth the #2 pick and there's simply no justifying it.  Even in hindsight, the second round selection is debatable.

 

Has it ever occurred to you that the reason sometimes they get it wrong could be because they're trying to manufacture a candidate from a crop without true franchise candidates?  Don't take my word for it, scouts are suggesting that very premise and are using this very draft class as an example.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Geno was certainly not worth the #2 pick and there's simply no justifying it.  Even in hindsight, the second round selection is debatable.

 

Has it ever occurred to you that the reason sometimes they get it wrong could be because they're trying to manufacture a candidate from a crop without true franchise candidates?  Don't take my word for it, scouts are suggesting that very premise and are using this very draft class as an example.

As their jobs are on the line if they don't get a QB upgrade they sometimes do I agree. What I see with Teddy and Geno is that they overcompensates and nitpick because they are too afraid to pick a bust. And it's easier to find flaws than to be wrong.

 

I disagree that Geno wasn't even worth the 2nd round pick as he's shown enough flashes of potential for me to believe he can be very good QB but your mind is so made up on this I won't insist.

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Texans went with Carr first overall, and blew it.  Next time, they went with Mario and got it right.

 

Just because you tank for the first pick doesn't mean you'll end up doing the right thing with it.  If you're not taking the best player and instead reaching for need... oof.  That's the icing on the cake.  You just tanked the season, then wasted the pick on top of that.  That would get anyone fired.

 

Say the Texans do go Bortles... it would be because they can't trade out of the pick or don't think they could move down where they otherwise think he should be picked, they are satisfied with their short term QB win or lose, and by benching Bortles for a season or more they intend to buy time until they he develops into the guy they believe is worth picking first.

 

Kind of a reverse-tank, I guess.  Get your player now and let him develop without going for the win by playing him too soon.

 

More and more people are coming out of the woodwork to say they don't think there will be but one, if any, QBs going in the top seven or so... and when they do they're picking Bortles to Houston.

 

 

I agree that just because they got the pick doesn't guarantee that they do good with it, and thats what I am hoping ultimately happens with the Texans, I hope they mess it up big time. 

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Geno was the number 3 deep ball thrower in the league with no weapons at all. I fully believe he will develop into a borderline pro bowl QB. Maybe not good enough to go every year, but he could make 2 or 3 in his career or so. 

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Tebow > Geno

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Tebow > Geno

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Geno was more media hype than good. It would help all of us if these so called social media sports personalities were forced to disclose their paid consultations with athlete agencies, etc.

 

What we have is PLAYOLA, where these kids are forking out their future NFL earnings by signing some PR contract to promote them ahead of the NFL selection meeting.

 

The contracts work. Just look at Biff Bortles. There's lots of mouthpieces spouting their client's "draftability", but they vanish if the prospect slips up on the turf, or throws prior to the draft.

 

Where do they get their expert credentials? 

 

Twit me. Twit me real good.

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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

 

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 It would help all of us if these so called social media sports personalities were forced to disclose their paid consultations with athlete agencies, etc.

 

What we have is PLAYOLA, where these kids are forking out their future NFL earnings by signing some PR contract to promote them ahead of the NFL selection meeting.

I don't know if "it would help all of us" but it is certainly happening and it would be interesting to see how much of it is happening/ money spent etc. Of course it's been happening for years. Athletes have paid publicists for decades.  Social media is just a new twist in the game.   While the hype machine is annoying - I don't have much trouble looking past it.   

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Oh yes, it's certainly happened.  Probably would have happened more if most of them weren't axed after the board change.

 

I happens every year.  A couple years ago it was about how Garrard was going to win the job in Miami, the next it was about how he was going to win the job with the Jets, then it was how Geno was the man to take at #2, and now it's about how Ted's the savior.

 

So many proclamations of things that "will happen" don't come to fruition, and this might end up being just one more of them.

Almost as funny as the idiot who said the jags were going to draft Sanchez.

 

You need to seriously get over yourself.

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Tebow > Geno

 

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Almost as funny as the idiot who said the jags were going to draft Sanchez.

 

You need to seriously get over yourself.

 

The fool who called Terrell Davis a "cutback" runner, when he (and the rest of the world) describes himself as a downhill runner was even funnier.  You need to learn to learn from your mistakes (but unfortunately your Achilles heel is your false pride.) 

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

When he wins as many playoff games as Tebow then come talk to me.

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Tebow > Geno

That's debatable, and the fact that it's debatable speaks to how truly awful each of those two QBs is.

 

I wouldn't trade up from three for anyone in this draft. I think that no matter who goes one and two, a player of equivalent caliber will be available at three. Clowney's the only real standout, huge talent available, and I think he makes it to three anyway.

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I do not approve trading up for anybody.

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