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Currently would you as the GM give Lawrence a Mega deal?
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(01-01-2024, 01:53 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: I'd love to give him a team friendly extension based on his very mediocre play.. then revisit in a few years to see if he's worth a mega deal. Why? He’s still under contract and we have a 5th year option.
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(01-30-2024, 10:15 PM)SuperJville Wrote:(01-01-2024, 01:53 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: I'd love to give him a team friendly extension based on his very mediocre play.. then revisit in a few years to see if he's worth a mega deal. Without knowing the exact QB market numbers off the top of my dome right now. I'd rather extend him now around the 10-15 mark for QBs, rather than allow him to potentially have a career year and then have to make him the highest paid QB in the league. (01-31-2024, 12:49 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:(01-30-2024, 10:15 PM)SuperJville Wrote: Why? He’s still under contract and we have a 5th year option. If this team had a solid oline, you could do that. He'd be dumb right now to sign any kind of mediocre extension. It's in his best interest to go explore FA when he can if the oline doesn't improve. (01-31-2024, 12:49 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:(01-30-2024, 10:15 PM)SuperJville Wrote: Why? He’s still under contract and we have a 5th year option. You think TL and his agent would negotiate a deal right now making him the 15th highest paid QB in the league?? Really??
(01-31-2024, 09:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(01-31-2024, 12:49 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Without knowing the exact QB market numbers off the top of my dome right now. I'd rather extend him now around the 10-15 mark for QBs, rather than allow him to potentially have a career year and then have to make him the highest paid QB in the league. If he thinks that he's delusional. I'm currently unsure if Baalke is going to offer the contract Trevor wants. Trevor is 'learning' or however it was Baalke described the last season. That doesn't sound like someone they're going to break the bank for. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-31-2024, 12:45 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote:(01-31-2024, 09:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: You think TL and his agent would negotiate a deal right now making him the 15th highest paid QB in the league?? Trevor's had to learn and continue to learn how to be patient and professional while surrounded by a bunch of [BLEEP] wits that shouldn't be around this front office anymore. At this rate, if they don't fix this offensive line? We won't have to break the bank for him because he'll have grown tired of breaking his back for this sorry [BLEEP] franchise that was fortunate enough to land him to begin with. ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
(01-31-2024, 09:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(01-31-2024, 12:49 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Without knowing the exact QB market numbers off the top of my dome right now. I'd rather extend him now around the 10-15 mark for QBs, rather than allow him to potentially have a career year and then have to make him the highest paid QB in the league. Im sure every player in nfl history wants more than they are worth, but anyway i said 10-15 not 15. Thats about what hes worth based on his play as of now. (01-31-2024, 03:10 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:(01-31-2024, 09:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: You think TL and his agent would negotiate a deal right now making him the 15th highest paid QB in the league?? What you are saying (even though you clearly don't even understand what you are saying) is unequivocally not how the NFL operates. (01-31-2024, 12:45 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote:(01-31-2024, 09:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: You think TL and his agent would negotiate a deal right now making him the 15th highest paid QB in the league?? They are either going to pay him top 5 money this offseason or do it at a greater cost next season. For a league that NEVER has enough good QBs to go around - a guy that has shown he's got top 5 traits - even inconsistently - is going to command a giant payday. (think back to Derek Carr's first re-up - seemed ludicrous at the time - but it is normal now) Factor in him being 24 with upside, a throwaway rookie year with a dead man walking coach, the garbage OL situation 22/23 and the injuries of 2023, and it gets real easy to see how 12 teams would gladly make him a top five paid QB with zero hesitation. To me - the best thing for the TL team is to let the team fix the line and let him grow another season showing what he's worth and then sign a mega-deal. For the Jags - it is probably best to pay him now and save a bit. They won't save much, but a little bit. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
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(01-31-2024, 03:10 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:They’re going to pay Trevor. It’s not even up for debate.(01-31-2024, 09:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: You think TL and his agent would negotiate a deal right now making him the 15th highest paid QB in the league?? So why not sign him earlier and save the team lots of money? You’re really going to try and nickel and dime the franchise QB? They slow played Allen and it backfired big time. Now you want them to do it again with Trevor?
Yeah I put him right up with Allen, Burrow, Lamar and Herbert If you don't agree you are crazy. He'll cost a bit less doing it this year.
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(01-31-2024, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:(01-31-2024, 03:10 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Im sure every player in nfl history wants more than they are worth, but anyway i said 10-15 not 15. Thats about what hes worth based on his play as of now.They’re going to pay Trevor. It’s not even up for debate. That's exactly what I was suggesting... ?
(02-01-2024, 12:18 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:(01-31-2024, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: They’re going to pay Trevor. It’s not even up for debate. Why would Trevor accept that kind of deal? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
You guys are honestly nuts if you think Trevor is signing an extension to save the jags a bunch of money. Even if he signs a team friendly deal, which he won’t, the moment he plays like a top 5 quarterback he’s going to restructure that contract and become the highest paid qb in the league.
Mahomes signed a 10 year deal in 2020 after winning the Super Bowl. He’s restructured twice since then and the plan is to revisit and restructure again by 2026 at the latest. That’s how things work. There’s absolutely no need to sign him to anything sooner. You play him at his 11m per year next year and use that savings now to beef up the team around him. If he plays great - then yes you can give him an extension one year from now. We still have the 5th year option and we also can still franchise him if we absolutely have to. But it won’t come to that.
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(02-01-2024, 12:18 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:You’re offering him top 10-15 money. Which is ludicrous.(01-31-2024, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: They’re going to pay Trevor. It’s not even up for debate. Him and his agent would laugh you out the building and then that would stunt the next negotiation. Brilliant move! Let’s have back to back years where our best players don’t want to negotiate. (02-01-2024, 06:52 AM)SuperJville Wrote: You guys are honestly nuts if you think Trevor is signing an extension to save the jags a bunch of money. Even if he signs a team friendly deal, which he won’t, the moment he plays like a top 5 quarterback he’s going to restructure that contract and become the highest paid qb in the league.You realize that if they sign him to an extension, they can still have him play the season at 11m right? It’s not like his cap hit would be 45 million.
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Trevor obviously expect to have the highest salary in the league after signing. That's fair and to bexpected by a decent starting QB. To go back to my previous comment that I am unsure if Baalke is offering him that. In that view it would be the team that is unwilling, to give him that contract. I'm sure that Trevor is willing to discuss certain aspects of the contract for flexibility reasons etc but in the end I'm confident he won't sign anything that doesn't make him the hightest paid player in the league.
That also means that if he isn't signed latest early in the 2024 season then I would have to assume that the team isn't that confident about him, regardless of what they may say in public.
(01-31-2024, 09:01 PM)nhiverson Wrote: Yeah I put him right up with Allen, Burrow, Lamar and Herbert If you don't agree you are crazy. He'll cost a bit less doing it this year. (02-01-2024, 01:16 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote:(02-01-2024, 12:18 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: That's exactly what I was suggesting... ? Don't know if he would, but based on his play/stats it's what he currently deserves. (02-01-2024, 08:18 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:(02-01-2024, 12:18 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: That's exactly what I was suggesting... ?You’re offering him top 10-15 money. Which is ludicrous. Based on his play, putting him in the top 10 is already being generous. I'm sure his agent who gets a % cut of the pay wants more, i'm sure the guy cashing the check wants more, but he hasn't earned anything more than that. I'm sure he will end up getting more, but if he does and his play dosen't improve 10 fold, we're going to be average for the next 5 years. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(02-01-2024, 09:59 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: Trevor obviously expect to have the highest salary in the league after signing. That's fair and to bexpected by a decent starting QB. To go back to my previous comment that I am unsure if Baalke is offering him that. In that view it would be the team that is unwilling, to give him that contract. I'm sure that Trevor is willing to discuss certain aspects of the contract for flexibility reasons etc but in the end I'm confident he won't sign anything that doesn't make him the hightest paid player in the league. I will be pissed if they make Trevor the highest paid player in the league. I'd rather them just play out his 5th year, stack the O-Line as much as possible, and make him earn that contract. He doesn't deserve it right now.
My comment for the: sign him on the cheap' crowd is this:
"Hello Trevor, we believe you will continue to be our franchise QB and that you'll bring a superbowl to our fine team and city. On that behalf, we'd like to pay you a contract that represents keeping you here for a long time. Hands him an offer that pays him Daniel Jones money." "!@#$ !@#$ing !@^%$" ***DOOR SLAM***
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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents? Please, and thank you. (02-02-2024, 10:12 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote:(02-01-2024, 09:59 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: Trevor obviously expect to have the highest salary in the league after signing. That's fair and to bexpected by a decent starting QB. To go back to my previous comment that I am unsure if Baalke is offering him that. In that view it would be the team that is unwilling, to give him that contract. I'm sure that Trevor is willing to discuss certain aspects of the contract for flexibility reasons etc but in the end I'm confident he won't sign anything that doesn't make him the hightest paid player in the league. And what exactly are you going to do about it? Oh yea that's right, absolutely nothing. ![]() |
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