ty sir.

No problem, I was equally confused on where the whole "check down" stuff came from

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Is Tom Savage this year's sleeper at QB? I think he's one who's received the least amount of publicly thru the media.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Yes, Johnny's numbers from the pocket stack up very well. However, there are graphs just like the ones posted here (which I unfortunately don't have at the moment) that we have all seen that show Manziel as one of the worst QBs in this class when pressured. 

 

So...very good stats in the pocket, but very poor stats when pressured. The only way those two stats can possibly be compatible is if the vast majority of the time that JFF was throwing from the pocket it was a very clean pocket. Considering that he had 3 top 10 pick OTs (assuming that Matthews doesn't shocking slide and Ogbuehi doesn't have a major injury) that is hardly a surprising stat. 

 

This is all to say, how much does it matter that you can put up stats in the pocket in college with superior protection if you still show that you don't have the ability to manipulate the pocket effectively when the pressure does happen to come? I say the stats don't mean a whole lot when the context of those stats show there is an awfully good chance that they are lying. 

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Chart in the link is certainly revealing. I been saying all along that Bridgewater doesnt do alot of checking down and he works the mid range of the field. I also had a chart that shows that only 9% of his passes are screens by FAR the lowest of the Big 3 at QB.

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That says as much or more about the system than it does the QB.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Does anybody know of any successful NFL franchise QBs who's knock on them out of college was deep ball accuracy?

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Does anybody know of any successful NFL franchise QBs who's knock on them out of college was deep ball accuracy?

...or having a slight frame?

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Derek Carr is same height and weight but no one says [BLEEP] about his frame. Very interesting.

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Derek Carr is same height and weight but no one says [BAD WORD REMOVED] about his frame. Very interesting.

Height-weight and frame don't necessarily coincide. Remember Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves? Harvey had significantly more bulk than Groves, even though he only weighed 10 lbs. more. Carr's kind of the same way. Looking at pictures of him, he's bulkier than Bridgewater. It's not as pronounced as Carr being built like a lineman while Bridgewater looks like a kicker, but Carr definitely appears a little thicker.

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