Of course you think its too severe. You are a fan of the team.

 

Anyone logical when think that's too severe.

 

You've already proven to be clueless when it comes to this topic, I think it's best for you and everyone else if you just don't post in this thread anymore. Saves yourself from continuing to look like a fool and everyone else having to read it.

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Anyone logical when think that's too severe.

 

You've already proven to be clueless when it comes to this topic, I think it's best for you and everyone else if you just don't post in this thread anymore. Saves yourself from continuing to look like a fool and everyone else having to read it.

 

I feel like he should be fined and the money be given to a charity that deals with prescription pill problems or whatever. Maybe bar him from attending 6-8 games if need be. End of story.

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If I remember right, Bud Adams was fined like 250k just for flipping the bird. So this penalty would have to be way more severe. At least a couple million in fines.

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Anyone logical when think that's too severe.

Hypothetical: If khan was arrested on the same charges and it cost the jaguars a draft pick, I would not think it was too severe.


The owners are the shield, actions should have consequences

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Hypothetical: If khan was arrested on the same charges and it cost the jaguars a draft pick, I would not think it was too severe.


The owners are the shield, actions should have consequences

 

Hypothetical: If Khan was arrested on the same charges and it cost the Jaguars a draft pick, I would think it was too severe.

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Hypothetical: If Khan was arrested on the same charges and it cost the Jaguars a draft pick, I would think it was too severe.

Just saying, you said anyone that is logical would think it's too severe. Though many may disagree, I consider myself logical...

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Its silly to fine a billionnaire.


Losing their 7th round pick sounds reasonable.

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Make Indy give the "Colts" name back to Baltimore. It hurts the owner but won't hurt the players. Indianapolis accepted the Irsay legacy when they took the team, so I don't feel to sorry for the fans either.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Its silly to fine a billionnaire.


Losing their 7th round pick sounds reasonable.

A 7th? Thats chump change

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Make Indy give the "Colts" name back to Baltimore. It hurts the owner but won't hurt the players. Indianapolis accepted the Irsay legacy when they took the team, so I don't feel to sorry for the fans either.

 

Let me get this right.

 

You advocate the Colts name should return to Baltimore … even though you have no idea if Baltimore fans, or the Ravens organization cares to have the name Colts returned. Right?

 

I have a feeling the Ravens fans/orginization are quite happy with what they have (without your help), maybe you would think the Colts team should be returned to Baltimore, and then returned to Dallas … The Dallas city that the Indianapolis Colts team actually started in.

 

 

The Dallas Texans are the Indianapolis Colts … if your perspective is adopted as rule.

 

But you know, if we are going to go all cheap .... Tarps!

 

Yes, your statement "IS" that childish. No matter how Tarps, or Mayflower is presented in a discussion, it always comes out the same. Childish mud slinging.

 

Moving on ... Irsay should be forced to trade teams with Khan, without compensation. Finally the team would match the owner.  :woot:

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Let me get this right.

 

You advocate the Colts name should return to Baltimore … even though you have no idea if Baltimore fans, or the Ravens organization cares to have the name Colts returned. Right?

 

I have a feeling the Ravens fans/orginization are quite happy with what they have (without your help), maybe you would think the Colts team should be returned to Baltimore, and then returned to Dallas … The Dallas city that the Indianapolis Colts team actually started in.

 

 

The Dallas Texans are the Indianapolis Colts … if your perspective is adopted as rule.

 

But you know, if we are going to go all cheap .... Tarps!

 

Yes, your statement "IS" that childish. No matter how Tarps, or Mayflower is presented in a discussion, it always comes out the same. Childish mud slinging.

 

Moving on ... Irsay should be forced to trade teams with Khan, without compensation. Finally the team would match the owner.  :woot:

Pass on you fine offer Sammy.

 

Irsay won't come out of this unscathed.

 

HeadSlap

 

Nice touch on the history lesson

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

Let me get this right.

 

You advocate the Colts name should return to Baltimore … even though you have no idea if Baltimore fans, or the Ravens organization cares to have the name Colts returned. Right?

 

I have a feeling the Ravens fans/orginization are quite happy with what they have (without your help), maybe you would think the Colts team should be returned to Baltimore, and then returned to Dallas … The Dallas city that the Indianapolis Colts team actually started in.

 

 

The Dallas Texans are the Indianapolis Colts … if your perspective is adopted as rule.

 

But you know, if we are going to go all cheap .... Tarps!

 

Yes, your statement "IS" that childish. No matter how Tarps, or Mayflower is presented in a discussion, it always comes out the same. Childish mud slinging.

 

Moving on ... Irsay should be forced to trade teams with Khan, without compensation. Finally the team would match the owner.  :woot:

 

Just the name. Irsay's punishment should be severe, but not hurt the competitive ability of team. A fine is insignificant. A suspension is meaningless, a draft pick hurts the players.


 

I doubt the Ravens or the city of Baltimore want to change back to 'Colts'. The name just goes in limbo.


Bob Irsay should have changed the name when he moved the team, as was done with the Oilers and Browns (and the Texans in your example). Being forced to change it now seems like a fitting punishment for his son the felon.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

What if Goodell ever gets done with a DUI? Will the NFL not exist for a year to punish him?


Irsay has been embarrassed enough not sure why the need to punish him.

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What if Goodell ever gets done with a DUI? Will the NFL not exist for a year to punish him?


Irsay has been embarrassed enough not sure why the need to punish him.

 

That doesn't make any sense.   

 

I'm sure Blackmon was embarrassed by having his substance abuse issues put out for the world to see.  Why did he need to lose money and receive a suspension?

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What if Goodell ever gets done with a DUI? Will the NFL not exist for a year to punish him?


Irsay has been embarrassed enough not sure why the need to punish him.

He would probably be fired

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Just the name. Irsay's punishment should be severe, but not hurt the competitive ability of team. A fine is insignificant. A suspension is meaningless, a draft pick hurts the players.


 

I doubt the Ravens or the city of Baltimore want to change back to 'Colts'. The name just goes in limbo.


Bob Irsay should have changed the name when he moved the team, as was done with the Oilers and Browns (and the Texans in your example). Being forced to change it now seems like a fitting punishment for his son the felon.

 

I agree that the Colts name should have stayed in Baltimore, but that precedent wasn't set before the Browns moved to Baltimore, then named the Ravens. It seems as if that may be the future rule, and I agree that the team name should belong to the city. I remember the announcers calling the Colts the Baltimore Colts for several years (by mistake) after the move, the same with the LA Rams, and the St. Louis Cardinals.

 

Announcers were just so used to the words that it wasn't unusual for them to make that mistake once, or three times throughout the broadcast. I have never heard them make a mistake like saying the “Baltimore Browns” … Now after 30 years in Indianapolis (which is about the same length of time the Colts were in Baltimore), it doesn't make all that much of a difference. The Colts are the Indianapolis Colts as much as the Ravens are the Baltimore Ravens, Jacksonville Jaguars … etc. It all just rolls off the tongue (as it should). I remember the days of players staying with the team that drafted them. I know they deserved free agency, but it was nice to "know" your guys, "your" players, "your team". All these 1 year contracts are becoming common place, and I don't care much for the watered down feeling you get from the turnover. It almost is like a fan changing team loyalties every year. ... hmmm, I said watered down, but maybe disloyalty fits better ... Then again, if you want to keep a player ... Pay him. I am not going to like to watch that first game that MJD plays for the Raiders, but I suspect it wont be as hard as Manning's first game with the Bronco's.

 

 

Anyway, back on topic ... It will be interesting to see what punishment the league will hand down (or up in this case) to Irsay. Maybe ban him from the facilities, games, contact with the team … etc, like they did Sean Payton. Doesn't really matter all that much (to a very rich man), but ultimately one can hope that Irsay can get the help, accept the help, and get himself better. It was becoming more obvious that something wasn't quite right with him. We may envy being a rich man, but there isn't a lot to envy of a dead rich man.

 

Yeah, I think something along the Sean Payton punishment would be about right ... Maybe 6,8,10 games? as opposed to a full season. Bountygate had the possibility of changing the game on the field, while Irsay was mainly damaging, and risking his own health. Come to think of it, not many things I do that I would consider healthy ... It is probably a good thing that I can't afford to self medicate like Irsay could.  :whistling:

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If anything it is handing a punishment "sideways" since the other owners via Goodell will handle it.

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That doesn't make any sense.


I'm sure Blackmon was embarrassed by having his substance abuse issues put out for the world to see. Why did he need to lose money and receive a suspension?

The whole punishments are a joke anyway. Unless it is affecting on field play like PEDs or Sean Peyton offences.


Blackmon is a paid employee whilst Irsay owns a business and pays substantial money into the NFL so not exactly the same thing. Hope Goodell gets smacked down if he tries to punish irsay

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The whole punishments are a joke anyway. Unless it is affecting on field play like PEDs or Sean Peyton offences.


Blackmon is a paid employee whilst Irsay owns a business and pays substantial money into the NFL so not exactly the same thing. Hope Goodell gets smacked down if he tries to punish irsay

 

Well, the NFL likes to protect its brand.  If an owner is tarnishing the shield the league needs to take action.  They shouldn't be exempt from the standard set for players.

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Anyone logical when think that's too severe.

 

You've already proven to be clueless when it comes to this topic, I think it's best for you and everyone else if you just don't post in this thread anymore. Saves yourself from continuing to look like a fool and everyone else having to read it.

Crap.  I must be illogical.      I don't think a LATE round pick is too severe at all, AND it sends a message that owners are held to at least the same standard as players.     

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