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Assassination attempt on Trump


(07-14-2024, 05:20 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Video of gunman taking aim. Well, part of a video. Whoever was taking the video strayed off the subject at the worst time. So frustrating, lol.

https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/trump-ral...ideo-clip/

If he was met with "instantaneous" fire by the SS sniper, that begs the question- how long did the SS sniper have him in his sights before he pulled the trigger?
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(07-14-2024, 05:18 PM)copycat Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 03:24 PM)Caldrac Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/C9aiN04S24S/...b3d0bWJycg==

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The video clearly backs up the fact that he had the would be assassin in his sights and only after the would be assassin pulled the trigger 3 times he fired upon him.  I and many Americans today want to know why a would be assassin pointing a rifle from a rooftop at a former president was not dropped with extreme prejudice by the secret service.

There's more than just SS at those events. Other agencies, police etc etc are all there as well. There was likely some confusing and miscommunication among the agencies on if that guy was a friend or foe. It wasn't until the shots took place when it was made obvious that he wasn't a friendly and that's when he was then taken out.

Also from the video, it looked like the SS sniper was caught off guard by the way he jumped backwards a little bit when the first shot was taken by the shooter.
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From reports, he was a registered Republican who donated $15 once to a Democrat-aligned cause.

So obviously he was one of those dangerous moderates that we need to keep an eye on.
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This is video of the SS sniper who was watching the gunman and eventually took him out.
https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/statu...4270800997
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(This post was last modified: 07-14-2024, 05:34 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

(07-14-2024, 05:25 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:18 PM)copycat Wrote: The video clearly backs up the fact that he had the would be assassin in his sights and only after the would be assassin pulled the trigger 3 times he fired upon him.  I and many Americans today want to know why a would be assassin pointing a rifle from a rooftop at a former president was not dropped with extreme prejudice by the secret service.

There's more than just SS at those events. Other agencies, police etc etc are all there as well. There was likely some confusing and miscommunication among the agencies on if that guy was a friend or foe. It wasn't until the shots took place when it was made obvious that he wasn't a friendly and that's when he was then taken out.

Also from the video, it looked like the SS sniper was caught off guard by the way he jumped backwards a little bit when the first shot was taken by the shooter.

Why in the hell would they allow snipers from more than one agency?  That's crazy.  But that's the only reason I can think of why the SS sniper would not be sure if it was friend or foe.  

When the SS comes to town, they should notify all law enforcement agencies that if they see anyone with a long rifle at the event who is not with them, they will be shot without any questions.
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(07-14-2024, 05:28 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: From reports, he was a registered Republican who donated $15 once to a Democrat-aligned cause. 

So obviously he was one of those dangerous moderates that we need to keep an eye on.

Do you need a hug, Marty?
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(07-14-2024, 05:34 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:28 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: From reports, he was a registered Republican who donated $15 once to a Democrat-aligned cause. 

So obviously he was one of those dangerous moderates that we need to keep an eye on.

Do you need a hug, Marty?

I can't believe one of my own did this.  It's a day of shame for all moderates.  Thank God most of us moderates are lousy shots.
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(07-14-2024, 04:14 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It's deliberate. If I was Trump, as much as it sucks, he has the money. Should be a permanent 25 - 50 man crew at every public event out in the open within a 100 yard parameter or radius covered from head to toe.

The fact that they had nobody on top of those buildings or at the water tower reek of deliberate intent to have this attempt happen at some point.

He was a split second away yesterday from his head being popped like a Gallagher Melon on live television.

People shouldn't just lose their jobs over this. They need to be investigated. The communication checks and balances need to be checked for imbalances.

This is one of the most prolific, polarizing, problematic politicians we have had in decades, if not, ever. The media hates him. They dogged him for eight straight years. They incited this hate. This narrative.

This was predictable and they took a calculated risk, deliberately, hoping for him to die yesterday. To make another JFK out of him for stepping on the toes of the establishment and [BLEEP] on the globalist agenda.

By the grace of God. He literally ducked death yesterday. Chilling just replaying all of it now.

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I'm not saying you're wrong, but it sounds like you think the 20 year old kid was involved in a rather large conspiracy?  I would think they would use a more hardened and trained sniper if that were the case.  The facts as they come out will be interesting, no doubt.
I think it goes back towards a lot of things. The intelligence agencies, the fear of him winning again, the setback's he can cause the establishment. The MIC. Trump is a disruptive force.

This is how I would view it. With all the wikileaks, the Snowden and Asange revelations over the past two decades. The survelliance. The door knocking going on at people's houses for speaking out on social media, etc.

There's a good chance these events are known well enough in advance to predict the eventual outcome or to intercept it and change the course of said outcome.

I am not going to hire a professional to take this shot. It's 2024, not 1964. Oswald was a patsy that had Rubenstein as his fall guy. The CIA is learning from their mistakes by creating plausible denaibility.

They probably knew this kid was radicalized. Knew of his intentions. Had intel. And sat on it deliberately. No different than when the attack on Pearl Harbor was known in advance and we allowed it to happen. No different than when the attack on 9/11 was known in advance and we allowed it to happen.

No different than the Gulf of Tonkin lie to get us into Vietnam. Just like the WOMD line and lie that was fed to us when I was a kid to get us into Iraq again post 9/11 so Jr. could finish his Daddy's war for him.



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(07-14-2024, 05:35 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:34 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Do you need a hug, Marty?

I can't believe one of my own did this.  It's a day of shame for all moderates.

Moderate extremists run amok!
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(07-14-2024, 04:50 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:07 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It's deliberate. If I was Trump, as much as it sucks, he has the money. Should be a permanent 25 - 50 man crew at every public event out in the open within a 100 yard parameter or radius covered from head to toe.

The fact that they had nobody on top of those buildings or at the water tower reek of deliberate intent to have this attempt happen at some point.

He was a split second away yesterday from his head being popped like a Gallagher Melon on live television.

People shouldn't just lose their jobs over this. They need to be investigated. The communication checks and balances need to be checked for imbalances.

This is one of the most prolific, polarizing, problematic politicians we have had in decades, if not, ever. The media hates him. They dogged him for eight straight years. They incited this hate. This narrative.

This was predictable and they took a calculated risk, deliberately, hoping for him to die yesterday. To make another JFK out of him for stepping on the toes of the establishment and [BLEEP] on the globalist agenda.

By the grace of God. He literally ducked death yesterday. Chilling just replaying all of it now.

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Why didn't God grace that man who was killed trying to cover up his family?
Ask God.

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(07-14-2024, 05:37 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:14 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I'm not saying you're wrong, but it sounds like you think the 20 year old kid was involved in a rather large conspiracy?  I would think they would use a more hardened and trained sniper if that were the case.  The facts as they come out will be interesting, no doubt.
I think it goes back towards a lot of things. The intelligence agencies, the fear of him winning again, the setback's he can cause the establishment. The MIC. Trump is a disruptive force.

This is how I would view it. With all the wikileaks, the Snowden and Asange revelations over the past two decades. The survelliance. The door knocking going on at people's houses for speaking out on social media, etc.

There's a good chance these events are known well enough in advance to predict the eventual outcome or to intercept it and change the course of said outcome.

I am not going to hire a professional to take this shot. It's 2024, not 1964. Oswald was a patsy that had Rubenstein as his fall guy. The CIA is learning from their mistakes by creating plausible denaibility.

They probably knew this kid was radicalized. Knew of his intentions. Had intel. And sat on it deliberately. No different than when the attack on Pearl Harbor was known in advance and we allowed it to happen. No different than when the attack on 9/11 was known in advance and we allowed it to happen.

No different than the Gulf of Tonkin lie to get us into Vietnam. Just like the WOMD line and lie that was fed to us when I was a kid to get us into Iraq again post 9/11 so Jr. could finish his Daddy's war for him.



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It is odd that they didn't bother to shoot him until he got a few shots off at Trump.
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(07-14-2024, 05:18 PM)copycat Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 03:24 PM)Caldrac Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/C9aiN04S24S/...b3d0bWJycg==

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The video clearly backs up the fact that he had the would be assassin in his sights and only after the would be assassin pulled the trigger 3 times he fired upon him.  I and many Americans today want to know why a would be assassin pointing a rifle from a rooftop at a former president was not dropped with extreme prejudice by the secret service.
We know why.

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(07-14-2024, 05:39 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:50 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Why didn't God grace that man who was killed trying to cover up his family?
Ask God.

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I'd love to, but for some reason the big man upstairs hasn't swung by to give me the chance.
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(07-14-2024, 04:57 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:50 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Why didn't God grace that man who was killed trying to cover up his family?

Oooh. Hot potato! Hot potato!

(07-14-2024, 04:57 PM)mikesez Wrote: Unfortunately you can't fire under that circumstance.  If you see an unknown in a position to harm the President, you don't call in "can I shoot him?" You call in "danger, cover the President now!". Then when the President is somewhere safe you investigate the unknown and re-secure the area.

Thank you, Mr. Secret Service man.

The secret service perceives threats everywhere, every day. We frequently hear that the President was delayed or detoured, and this is usually due to a perceived threat.  We almost never hear of them having to shoot someone.
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(07-14-2024, 05:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:37 PM)Caldrac Wrote: I think it goes back towards a lot of things. The intelligence agencies, the fear of him winning again, the setback's he can cause the establishment. The MIC. Trump is a disruptive force.

This is how I would view it. With all the wikileaks, the Snowden and Asange revelations over the past two decades. The survelliance. The door knocking going on at people's houses for speaking out on social media, etc.

There's a good chance these events are known well enough in advance to predict the eventual outcome or to intercept it and change the course of said outcome.

I am not going to hire a professional to take this shot. It's 2024, not 1964. Oswald was a patsy that had Rubenstein as his fall guy. The CIA is learning from their mistakes by creating plausible denaibility.

They probably knew this kid was radicalized. Knew of his intentions. Had intel. And sat on it deliberately. No different than when the attack on Pearl Harbor was known in advance and we allowed it to happen. No different than when the attack on 9/11 was known in advance and we allowed it to happen.

No different than the Gulf of Tonkin lie to get us into Vietnam. Just like the WOMD line and lie that was fed to us when I was a kid to get us into Iraq again post 9/11 so Jr. could finish his Daddy's war for him.



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It is odd that they didn't bother to shoot him until he got a few shots off at Trump.
It's extremely odd. He was decent enough of a shot to where had Trump not moved a little bit at that precise moment the back right side of his head is gone. He's dead.

He ducked and those other shots ultimately hit and ended the life of that man behind him in the crowd.

More details will come out, but, you watch. It'll be revealed at some point there was intel on this kid, his potential motives were known weeks to months in advance, and, the intel community chose to deliberately not act upon it.

It's been the same narrative for years now and nobody is held accountable for it really and rarely any names are dropped publicly.



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(07-14-2024, 05:46 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:39 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Ask God.

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I'd love to, but for some reason the big man upstairs hasn't swung by to give me the chance.
Did you just assume it's gender?

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(07-14-2024, 05:50 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: It is odd that they didn't bother to shoot him until he got a few shots off at Trump.
It's extremely odd. He was decent enough of a shot to where had Trump not moved a little bit at that precise moment the back right side of his head is gone. He's dead.

He ducked and those other shots ultimately hit and ended the life of that man behind him in the crowd.

More details will come out, but, you watch. It'll be revealed at some point there was intel on this kid, his potential motives were known weeks to months in advance, and, the intel community chose to deliberately not act upon it.

It's been the same narrative for years now and nobody is held accountable for it really and rarely any names are dropped publicly.



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(07-14-2024, 05:46 PM)Eric1 Wrote: I'd love to, but for some reason the big man upstairs hasn't swung by to give me the chance.
Did you just assume it's gender?

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I did indeed.
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(07-14-2024, 05:49 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:57 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Oooh. Hot potato! Hot potato!


Thank you, Mr. Secret Service man.

The secret service perceives threats everywhere, every day. We frequently hear that the President was delayed or detoured, and this is usually due to a perceived threat.  We almost never hear of them having to shoot someone.
You would think by now. Especially in today's political climate, both, geopolitically and domestically, that, every time the President and his or her entourage or any potential President to be next in line is out and about?

EVERYBODY is on high alert and ready to rock and roll. It's wild to think there's people this relaxed in these positions or lackadaiscal with their role.

If this was during the days of King's and Queen's? Good chance that whole vanguard would have been sent to the chopping block the next morning or placed in the darkest depths of their dungeon.

But, no, it's 2024. "Ho hum".

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(07-14-2024, 03:27 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: She previously spent 25 years with the Secret Service.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/s...y-cheatle/

Spending 25 years working there doesn't mean actual field work. The little we know is she spent time working on the Biden VP team but doesn't say what role she had. She could have been in a desk position writing protocols or budgets. The other option is she guarded Biden during his nude swimming time and her payoff was to get this position.

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(07-14-2024, 05:53 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:50 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It's extremely odd. He was decent enough of a shot to where had Trump not moved a little bit at that precise moment the back right side of his head is gone. He's dead.

He ducked and those other shots ultimately hit and ended the life of that man behind him in the crowd.

More details will come out, but, you watch. It'll be revealed at some point there was intel on this kid, his potential motives were known weeks to months in advance, and, the intel community chose to deliberately not act upon it.

It's been the same narrative for years now and nobody is held accountable for it really and rarely any names are dropped publicly.



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Did you just assume it's gender?

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I did indeed.


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(07-14-2024, 04:33 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Also, the kid has the look of someone who may have been picked on in high school which may have helped shape his world view.  Speculation I know, but he has a little bit of an odd look to him to me so I could see it happening.

Unless you're saying that the powers that be intentionally left the proverbial door open knowing one of their kook allies would eventually come along uncoerced and of his own volition and take advantage?  That might have more legs.

They talked to some of his classmates who said he was picked on all the time.

(07-14-2024, 05:18 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 05:08 PM)Sneakers Wrote: It's a banned topic.

I suppose it's banned because people get all pissed off when arguing about religion.  Unlike politics.

All kidding aside, I wish that topic was not banned.  It would be pretty interesting to discuss.

We all have day jobs, no way we could police a politics and religion free for all on this board!





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