So, in your mind Harris alone would have gotten 14M votes and been the nominee in the primary or no?  The Democrat voters either chose their nominee or they didn't.  One is a democratic process, the other isn't regardless of how it transpired.

FWIW, I hope she's the nominee at this point.  She's tied to the record of the past 4 years and to listen to her speak will probably push those on the fence toward Trump.

Biden/Harris was the only name on the ticket.  I could have gotten 14m votes if my name was the only name on the ticket.  I'm stating 31m no-shows speaks higher volume.  If the Dems are upset about the process, they can vote Trump or simply not vote.   Personally, I'd prefer Joe Manchin but I think it's only right to nominate Kamala as the candidate.  If the Dems lose or even if they win, perhaps I'll get Manchin in 2028 via a true Primary which is fine with me.

To be honest, I'm not afraid of a Trump victory ..... I WAS fearing a Biden victory as of late so I'm ok with the options as currently anticipated (Trump vs Harris)

Yes, you've been a reasonable and relatively moderate opposition voice which I greatly respect.  However, we're having a back and forth on the comment I made regarding subverting Democracy which you took issue with and I explained was due to the fact that Harris was selected and not elected.  You're forgetting or avoiding the hypothetical I posed of her having to go through an open primary this past year on her own and refusing to opine on what you think her chances would have been.  

This will have been 2 of the last 3 Democratic primaries where the will of the people was not necessarily honored or, in the case this year, even needed.  In 2016, super delegates pledged extremely early for Hillary which not only gave her a significant lead in delegates, but likely swayed undecideds to the side of the presumed winner and/or encouraged some Bernie supporters to just stay home.   Even in 2020, certain candidates with no chance of winning stayed in the race longer than usual in what appeared to be an effort to thwart Bernie's chances, though admittedly it may not have mattered that year as Biden was seen as a connection to the popular on the left Obama years anyway.  (If Biden in fact made a deal for Pocahontas to say in the race to peel voters off of Bernie, kudos for good primary election strategy on his part)

I completely agree that given the current scenario and circumstances, she is the rightful candidate and I believe she's the only one that has a legitimate claim on Biden's existing war chest of campaign funds as well.

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See? There you go with that conspiracy [BLEEP] again. I don't like Barack Obama at all, but his mother is a citizen of the USA and therefore he is as well. Unless you believe that his mother was not in fact his mother then you are intentionally misrepresenting the man and our laws. English Common Law is repute with cases where any person born withing the "Ligeance" of the king is considered natural born, so yeah, the pre-USA precedence supports that as well. And quite frankly, it's a really bad look for certain elements to pull this crap out of the dust bin when the candidate just so happen to be black.

I never said Obama wasn't a citizen. His birth certificate is fake, it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt with the file provided having the layers still in it. He wasn't born in Hawaii or something else was covered up about the birth. If he wasn't born in Hawaii and his father wasn't a citizen, then he isn't a natural born citizen. The woman who supposedly provided the birth certificate was the only death in a plane crash that everyone survived but then she suddenly disappears underwater.

This is why people think conspiracy theorists are unhinged, no evidence is ever enough. Never mind the short form or long form (they're fake), never mind the statements of the Department of Health validating those forms (they're lying), never mind the newspaper accounts and friends' recollections (they're all lying too!). No, no, no... it's the most well planned conspiracy ever, started in 1961 to make Barry Obama president someday 50 years in the future. 

And if his mother was a citizen then he's a natural born citizen, whether he was born in Hawaii, Kenya, the Marianas Trench, or Moon Base Alpha...it's of no import, nothing else but him popping out her baby tunnel is required.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

We can just chill till after the Democratic Convention. Between now and then the two major factions within the party will be "negotiating" with each other. They are Obama's group and the Bill/Hillary group. I am unsure They will be running a massive amount of polls (not public mind you) I am unsure whose camp George Kurtz the CEO and founder of the cyber security firm CrowdStrike falls into. I predict they will let Kamala "pretend" to be the frontrunner until the groups decide. They will need to run the appearance of an open Convention or run unnecessary risks.

This also has a tactical advantage for them as it kind of freezes the Trump campaign in place till after the convention.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Pelosi now endorsing Kackala.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

With an important and historical decision to drop out of the race and make a specific endorsement as was done on social media on an account he doesn't control and through a plain white paper letter with a suspect signature, we instead need to actually see these decisions coming from the horse's mouth. I know he supposedly has COVID, but this is bizarre. I'm hearing that nothing is scheduled on his calendar for the rest of the week which means there is also currently no address to the nation scheduled which is something you would expect for decisions such as these.

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So long as Harris is the nominee, I won't complain about Democracy being subverted. She's the natural and rightful candidate as far as I'm concerned. However, if they nominate someone else at the DNC, you won't have a leg to stand on.

How is she the rightful candidate without a primary? She is only the rightful candidate if Biden resigns his presidency and she happens to be the sitting president. Nothing is rightful at this point.

"Rightful" is not the correct word in this case. "Logical" is the word I'd use. Had Biden made his decision much earlier, things would have been very different regarding the process to select a democratic nominee. Democrats like Newsome, Whitmer, Kelly and Cooper would have possibly entered the race. They have all strongly endorsed Harris because they are smart and know that it is too late for any of them to likely win and it would also cause bigger problems within the party. I'm sure Whitmer and Newsome would prefer to run in 2028, along with Shapiro, if Trump wins in November.

Regarding Harris' chances of beating Trump, she is no doubt the underdog at this point. It is impossible to predict with any certainty at his point, however, who will win. Her V.P. selection will be critical if they are popular in the battleground states. Her selection is obviously very popular with the most reliable democratic group- black women. If she is able to win over the young voters and undecided black men, she has a very good chance.

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How is she the rightful candidate without a primary? She is only the rightful candidate if Biden resigns his presidency and she happens to be the sitting president. Nothing is rightful at this point.

"Rightful" is not the correct word in this case. "Logical" is the word I'd use. Had Biden made his decision much earlier, things would have been very different regarding the process to select a democratic nominee. Democrats like Newsome, Whitmer, Kelly and Cooper would have possibly entered the race. They have all strongly endorsed Harris because they are smart and know that it is too late for any of them to likely win and it would also cause bigger problems within the party. I'm sure Whitmer and Newsome would prefer to run in 2028, along with Shapiro, if Trump wins in November.

Regarding Harris' chances of beating Trump, she is no doubt the underdog at this point. It is impossible to predict with any certainty at his point, however, who will win. Her V.P. selection will be critical if they are popular in the battleground states. Her selection is obviously very popular with the most reliable democratic group- black women. If she is able to win over the young voters and undecided black men, she has a very good chance.

She's going to have to debate and speak at many points along the way.  Have you heard her speak before?  She's widely viewed as a light weight and for good reason.

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Allow me to rephrase. So long as it's next man up, so-to-speak, it bothers me much less than hand selecting a candidate who is polling well enough to beat him. It comes across much less like a power play and more like a legitimate attempt to replace a doddering old man. Yes, he should have been primaried. Yes, this should have been made public much sooner. Yes, they are subverting the process to a degree. It just bothers me much less if it's the VP who gets the nod.

It makes logical sense. Even if you don't like her. It's just the way of it. I would still vote third party though before I trust another Democrat in office. 

RFK Jr., Cornel West, Jill Stein & Chase Oliver > Kamala Harris.

Cornel West is a moron. I wouldn't want that dude anywhere near the Presidency, though we'd get some eloquent, grandiloquent, and magniloquent speeches, my brotha'.

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"Rightful" is not the correct word in this case. "Logical" is the word I'd use. Had Biden made his decision much earlier, things would have been very different regarding the process to select a democratic nominee. Democrats like Newsome, Whitmer, Kelly and Cooper would have possibly entered the race. They have all strongly endorsed Harris because they are smart and know that it is too late for any of them to likely win and it would also cause bigger problems within the party. I'm sure Whitmer and Newsome would prefer to run in 2028, along with Shapiro, if Trump wins in November.

Regarding Harris' chances of beating Trump, she is no doubt the underdog at this point. It is impossible to predict with any certainty at his point, however, who will win. Her V.P. selection will be critical if they are popular in the battleground states. Her selection is obviously very popular with the most reliable democratic group- black women. If she is able to win over the young voters and undecided black men, she has a very good chance.

She's going to have to debate and speak at many points along the way.  Have you heard her speak before?  She's widely viewed as a light weight and for good reason.

There is no doubt that in the past she has not been effective at communicating her vision and how she would make things better for everyday people. That's why she was so unsuccessful in her first bid to be President. She needs to show that this weakness has improved. Part of the problem is due to the fact that, being from California, she has never had to win the support of swing voters. If she demonstrates growth in this area and selects a more moderate V.P. like Kelly or Shapiro, she will definitely give Trump a tough challenge.

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Kamala is a moron. She will fail miserably in any debate. She was universally disliked prior to the election, and the only reason Democrats or moderates are giving her the time of day is because a) she isn't Donald Trump and b) they are political simpletons who have the memory of a goldfish. And yes, I know that's a myth, Mikey.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Kamala is a moron. She will fail miserably in any debate. She was universally disliked prior to the election, and the only reason Democrats or moderates are giving her the time of day is because a) she isn't Donald Trump or Joe Biden and b) they are political simpletons who have the memory of a goldfish. And yes, I know that's a myth, Mikey.

FIFY -- also goldfish have good memories considering the size of their brain.  If one factors the weight of the brain vs that of a goldfish, I'd have to say that's a compliment.

Research suggests that goldfish have good memories and can recall memories for at least one month, and sometimes for up to six months. In fact, some studies have shown that goldfish can remember other goldfish even after long periods of separation

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Kamala is a moron. She will fail miserably in any debate. She was universally disliked prior to the election, and the only reason Democrats or moderates are giving her the time of day is because a) she isn't Donald Trump and b) they are political simpletons who have the memory of a goldfish. And yes, I know that's a myth, Mikey.

Good God.  You think Kamala Harris is a moron and you would vote for Trump, the biggest moron on the planet?

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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/...eIW3w&s=19

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https://twitter.com/OwenShroyer1776/stat...1243338061

Is that last signature his signature or nah? I would think they could easily cut and paste from another digitally stored letter, so this is weird.

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Here's a link to all of Joe Biden's many executive orders.  I haven't gone through all of them back to 2021, but the ones I did they all look very similar.  The letter that came out over the weekend is in fact significantly different enough to be suspicious.

https://www.federalregister.gov/presiden...biden/2024

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Here's a link to all of Joe Biden's many executive orders.  I haven't gone through all of them back to 2021, but the ones I did they all look very similar.  The letter that came out over the weekend is in fact significantly different enough to be suspicious.

https://www.federalregister.gov/presiden...biden/2024

The B is never disconnected and never underlined.

Who knows who signed it and why they didn't use the auto pen.

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Kamala is a moron. She will fail miserably in any debate. She was universally disliked prior to the election, and the only reason Democrats or moderates are giving her the time of day is because a) she isn't Donald Trump or Joe Biden and b) they are political simpletons who have the memory of a goldfish. And yes, I know that's a myth, Mikey.

FIFY -- also goldfish have good memories considering the size of their brain.  If one factors the weight of the brain vs that of a goldfish, I'd have to say that's a compliment.

Research suggests that goldfish have good memories and can recall memories for at least one month, and sometimes for up to six months. In fact, some studies have shown that goldfish can remember other goldfish even after long periods of separation

Lol.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Kamala is a moron. She will fail miserably in any debate. She was universally disliked prior to the election, and the only reason Democrats or moderates are giving her the time of day is because a) she isn't Donald Trump or Joe Biden and b) they are political simpletons who have the memory of a goldfish. And yes, I know that's a myth, Mikey.

FIFY -- also goldfish have good memories considering the size of their brain.  If one factors the weight of the brain vs that of a goldfish, I'd have to say that's a compliment.

Research suggests that goldfish have good memories and can recall memories for at least one month, and sometimes for up to six months. In fact, some studies have shown that goldfish can remember other goldfish even after long periods of separation

Thanks, "Mikey." It was a figure of speech that I clearly identified as a myth. I didn't expect you to be the poster grasping at straws.

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Kamala is a moron. She will fail miserably in any debate. She was universally disliked prior to the election, and the only reason Democrats or moderates are giving her the time of day is because a) she isn't Donald Trump and b) they are political simpletons who have the memory of a goldfish. And yes, I know that's a myth, Mikey.

Good God.  You think Kamala Harris is a moron and you would vote for Trump, the biggest moron on the planet?

You believe Trump is a moron. He has his flaws, no doubt. Kamala is worse. Much worse.

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