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(07-27-2024, 11:47 AM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: So has anyone yet provided any sort of policy that would make an independent want to vote for Harris? Any sort of accomplishment or political stance?

This is definitely a John Slade moment lololol

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(07-27-2024, 11:47 AM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: So has anyone yet provided any sort of policy that would make an independent want to vote for Harris? Any sort of accomplishment or political stance?

Harris has yet to explain what new laws or policies she would pursue.  She's already polling within the margin of error, so she's in no rush.  She clearly thinks a couple of well placed blows against Trump in the next couple of months will put her over the top.  She may not ever explain what she wants to do until she gets elected and does it.

That's not great for us, as a country, as voters.  We might have been able to have an election about policy and new ideas if the Republican candidate was less, you know, him.
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(07-27-2024, 11:23 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 11:18 AM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: [Image: ApvilvZ.png]

That's fake, and I'll tell you why.  If you go to the link, it doesn't say, "Donald Trump might not have been shot after all."  It actually says, "Donald Trump May Not Have Been Hit by Bullet, FBI Director Says"

So, swing and a miss.  Newsweek did not say Trump was not shot.  They said the FBI Director said he may not have been shot.  

Click on the link and you can see what Newsweek actually said.  

Newsweek on X: "Donald Trump might not have been shot after all https://t.co/60KvtkhY1N https://t.co/fObe2Jr3iG" / X

That's not "fake." That is their account. That is an active post. It's still the caption. It's what their editor of the social media chose to present to their 3.5 million followers. It says what they wanted it to say.
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Also, here:

https://archive.is/XchQb

That's an internet archive of the Newsweek headline from the day it was originally published. They changed the headline the next day.

Admit you're manipulated.
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(07-27-2024, 02:47 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Also, here:

https://archive.is/XchQb

That's an internet archive of the Newsweek headline from the day it was originally published. They changed the headline the next day.

Admit you're manipulated.

The argument was whether the MSM said Donald Trump was not shot.  What I see is a headline that says, "Donald Trump might not have been shot."  Linked to an article that explains, the FBI Director said he might not have been shot, but rather, hit by a fragment.  

I don't see what's wrong with that.
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(07-27-2024, 04:24 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 02:47 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Also, here:

https://archive.is/XchQb

That's an internet archive of the Newsweek headline from the day it was originally published. They changed the headline the next day.

Admit you're manipulated.

The argument was whether the MSM said Donald Trump was not shot.  What I see is a headline that says, "Donald Trump might not have been shot."  Linked to an article that explains, the FBI Director said he might not have been shot, but rather, hit by a fragment.  

I don't see what's wrong with that.

It was an evil, cheap way to try to discount what happened.
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(07-27-2024, 04:24 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 02:47 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Also, here:

https://archive.is/XchQb

That's an internet archive of the Newsweek headline from the day it was originally published. They changed the headline the next day.

Admit you're manipulated.

The argument was whether the MSM said Donald Trump was not shot.  What I see is a headline that says, "Donald Trump might not have been shot."  Linked to an article that explains, the FBI Director said he might not have been shot, but rather, hit by a fragment.  

I don't see what's wrong with that.


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Wow you guys are sensitive. I thought the libs were snowflakes.
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(07-27-2024, 05:09 PM)mikesez Wrote: Wow you guys are sensitive.  I thought the libs were snowflakes.

Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..
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(07-27-2024, 05:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 05:09 PM)mikesez Wrote: Wow you guys are sensitive.  I thought the libs were snowflakes.

Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..

For the record, I'm glad he didn't get killed.  That would have been a terrible thing, not just for him and his family and his supporters, but for the country as a whole.  It would have been an absolute disaster.
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(07-27-2024, 05:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 05:09 PM)mikesez Wrote: Wow you guys are sensitive.  I thought the libs were snowflakes.

Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..

That has nothing to do with it.
But I was clear that I didn't wish for violence and I never will.
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(07-27-2024, 11:41 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Harris is trailing but within the margin of error. 

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/h...xSHw%3D%3D

This is her peak.  It's brad new and fresh.  They haven't attacked her yet but she will get exposed. The novelty will wear off before November and I see her dropping way off those numbers.  Once it's out that she is just a babbling puppet with no real leadership qualities, it is over for her.  There is no doubt that she will get millions of votes from the Race Crowd and the blue blood democrats.  I don't think it will be enough.  God help us if they find a way to get here in office.
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(07-27-2024, 05:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 05:09 PM)mikesez Wrote: Wow you guys are sensitive.  I thought the libs were snowflakes.

Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..

Wait. Explain how reporting that Trump may have been hit with a fragment get transposed in your mind into a wish for people to die? That’s just weird bro.

(07-27-2024, 05:43 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 11:41 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Harris is trailing but within the margin of error. 

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/h...xSHw%3D%3D

This is her peak.  It's brad new and fresh.  They haven't attacked her yet but she will get exposed. The novelty will wear off before November and I see her dropping way off those numbers.  Once it's out that she is just a babbling puppet with no real leadership qualities, it is over for her.  There is no doubt that she will get millions of votes from the Race Crowd and the blue blood democrats.  I don't think it will be enough.  God help us if they find a way to get here in office.

Her position on the Gaza conflict seemed measured and reasonable. Her position on the overturning of Roe vs Wade will appeal to liberals and independents. We need to hear more from her but I’m expecting her to pull ahead in the next few weeks. If she gets into office, you can rest assured she’ll put together a good staff and listen to their advice which also distinguishes her from Trump.
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(07-27-2024, 06:26 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 05:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..

Wait. Explain how reporting that Trump may have been hit with a fragment get transposed in your mind into a wish for people to die? That’s just weird bro.

(07-27-2024, 05:43 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: This is her peak.  It's brad new and fresh.  They haven't attacked her yet but she will get exposed. The novelty will wear off before November and I see her dropping way off those numbers.  Once it's out that she is just a babbling puppet with no real leadership qualities, it is over for her.  There is no doubt that she will get millions of votes from the Race Crowd and the blue blood democrats.  I don't think it will be enough.  God help us if they find a way to get here in office.

Her position on the Gaza conflict seemed measured and reasonable. Her position on the overturning of Roe vs Wade will appeal to liberals and independents. We need to hear more from her but I’m expecting her to pull ahead in the next few weeks. If she gets into office, you can rest assured she’ll put together a good staff and listen to their advice which also distinguishes her from Trump.

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(07-27-2024, 06:26 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 05:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..

Wait. Explain how reporting that Trump may have been hit with a fragment get transposed in your mind into a wish for people to die? That’s just weird bro.

(07-27-2024, 05:43 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: This is her peak.  It's brad new and fresh.  They haven't attacked her yet but she will get exposed. The novelty will wear off before November and I see her dropping way off those numbers.  Once it's out that she is just a babbling puppet with no real leadership qualities, it is over for her.  There is no doubt that she will get millions of votes from the Race Crowd and the blue blood democrats.  I don't think it will be enough.  God help us if they find a way to get here in office.

Her position on the Gaza conflict seemed measured and reasonable. Her position on the overturning of Roe vs Wade will appeal to liberals and independents. We need to hear more from her but I’m expecting her to pull ahead in the next few weeks. If she gets into office, you can rest assured she’ll put together a good staff and listen to their advice which also distinguishes her from Trump.

Translation = She will be the same type of puppet that Biden is while putting Americans last and foreigners first.  Her record is horrendous with locking black men up in Jail with her crazy drug law policies while totally failing at the border.  From your Post I am betting you are a trump hater and a blue blooded democrat.  I'm all ears, Tell me what achievements she has done in her past and what her direction is on fixing this country.  Going by her border record it is not looking pretty.  I best bet if she gets it, the Diversity and DEI agenda will be shoved down our throats even more.
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(07-27-2024, 12:45 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 11:47 AM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: So has anyone yet provided any sort of policy that would make an independent want to vote for Harris? Any sort of accomplishment or political stance?

Harris has yet to explain what new laws or policies she would pursue.  She's already polling within the margin of error, so she's in no rush.  She clearly thinks a couple of well placed blows against Trump in the next couple of months will put her over the top.  She may not ever explain what she wants to do until she gets elected and does it.

That's not great for us, as a country, as voters.  We might have been able to have an election about policy and new ideas if the Republican candidate was less, you know, him.

She's been explaining what she wants to do well enough for her entire political career.  Her abstaining from explaining now should not provide her any sort of benefit of the doubt.
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(07-27-2024, 06:26 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 05:10 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Sorry that we don't wish for people to die..

Wait. Explain how reporting that Trump may have been hit with a fragment get transposed in your mind into a wish for people to die? That’s just weird bro.

That was targeted at me. I said a while ago that it would be good if Trump died of natural causes before November.

(07-27-2024, 07:14 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 12:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: Harris has yet to explain what new laws or policies she would pursue.  She's already polling within the margin of error, so she's in no rush.  She clearly thinks a couple of well placed blows against Trump in the next couple of months will put her over the top.  She may not ever explain what she wants to do until she gets elected and does it.

That's not great for us, as a country, as voters.  We might have been able to have an election about policy and new ideas if the Republican candidate was less, you know, him.

She's been explaining what she wants to do well enough for her entire political career.  Her abstaining from explaining now should not provide her any sort of benefit of the doubt.

I agree.  She should have to explain herself.  Doesn't mean she will have to explain herself.
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(07-27-2024, 07:49 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 06:26 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Wait. Explain how reporting that Trump may have been hit with a fragment get transposed in your mind into a wish for people to die? That’s just weird bro.

That was targeted at me.  I said a while ago that it would be good if Trump died of natural causes before November.

(07-27-2024, 07:14 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: She's been explaining what she wants to do well enough for her entire political career.  Her abstaining from explaining now should not provide her any sort of benefit of the doubt.

I agree.  She should have to explain herself.  Doesn't mean she will have to explain herself.

God forbid she explain her polices and the direction for the country. She should never have to explain her stance on any issue. She's black, she's a woman, and she will be that puppet in charge the Democrats love.

Sign me up! Who cares about her polices or her past.

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(07-27-2024, 08:40 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:
(07-27-2024, 07:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: That was targeted at me.  I said a while ago that it would be good if Trump died of natural causes before November.


I agree.  She should have to explain herself.  Doesn't mean she will have to explain herself.

God forbid she explain her polices and the direction for the country. She should never have to explain her stance on any issue. She's black, she's a woman, and she will be that puppet in charge the Democrats love.

Sign me up! Who cares about her polices or her past.

#wokeliberalmike

Your pronoun and your gender? Are you gender fluid?

Wait I'm a woke liberal now? Lol.  I'm just telling you what Harris's campaign strategy seems to be.  I'm not saying anything about her ideas or values or policies being good or bad.  Read carefully.
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