Unless it's your daughter being battered by a dude posing as a woman.

Oh, please spare us.  

Gun Rights ....  unless it's your daughter being gunned down by an AR-15 as she sits in a classroom or attends a concert event.

Huh?

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Oh, please spare us.  

Gun Rights ....  unless it's your daughter being gunned down by an AR-15 as she sits in a classroom or attends a concert event.

Huh?

Very sorry to hear about your daughter. My condolences.. Most likely would not have happen had not the 1992 "safe zone" law be passed banning fire arms from schools. Made them a soft target. Create a soft target and hope. Do you know who pushed that bill?

Same thing almost worked recently.

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It's like one thing is illegal and the other blatantly encouraged.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You are trying to muddy it and call it intersex instead of answering the question. No one cares if they are intersex, it's not about the parts or what they call themselves. There is a simple blood test to determine if you are male or female. Any extra X or Ys still make you XY or XX. You can have both, extra, none, etc parts that make you intersex but that doesn't determine your DNA.

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The waters were already muddy. 
Allow me to be the first person to inform you of a condition called complete androgen insensitivity.

As I said, it doesn't matter. Do you have a Y chromosome or not? The other stuff doesn't matter.

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The waters were already muddy. 
Allow me to be the first person to inform you of a condition called complete androgen insensitivity.

As I said, it doesn't matter. Do you have a Y chromosome or not? The other stuff doesn't matter.

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That's certainly an opinion.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Unless it's your daughter being battered by a dude posing as a woman.

Oh, please spare us.  

Gun Rights ....  unless it's your daughter being gunned down by an AR-15 as she sits in a classroom or attends a concert event.

An AR-15 can't and won't "gun down" anyone or anything.  It's the person operating it that does the crime.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I don't give a [BLEEP] about birth, development, hormone levels, etc., if you're trans you compete against other trans or you stay home. Since there isn't a trans category these athletes should be beating down doors demanding there be one (equality!) so they can legitimately compete but they don't want that, they want to be seen as what they think/feel they are and want to compete as such. In sports that's BS.

Bravo. Can't improve on this.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

I feel sorry for the Algerian, tbh. Talk about a crappy situation. I feel if the left wasn't so into forcing their narrative down the public's throat, most of us would be much more understanding of the situation.

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I feel sorry for the Algerian, tbh. Talk about a crappy situation. I feel if the left wasn't so into forcing their narrative down the public's throat, most of us would be much more understanding of the situation.

When they have the choice they always punch down.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I feel sorry for the Algerian, tbh. Talk about a crappy situation. I feel if the left wasn't so into forcing their narrative down the public's throat, most of us would be much more understanding of the situation.

I think feeling sorry for people who have any kind of disorder is good and hating people just because they have a disorder is bad.

The people who feel hate towards her because of an opening ceremony or a magazine cover or any other "leftist narrative" that has nothing to do with her, need to check themselves. She isn't why Bruce is Caitlyn now.  She isn't why the opening ceremony included a queer fashion show. 

Normally Joe Sixpack doesn't even notice women's boxing, let alone attribute anything happening in women's boxing to any disturbing global trend. It's not Joe Sixpack.  It's elements of the right wing international media, including Russia, that are pushing the narrative that the two are related.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I feel sorry for the Algerian, tbh. Talk about a crappy situation. I feel if the left wasn't so into forcing their narrative down the public's throat, most of us would be much more understanding of the situation.

I think feeling sorry for people who have any kind of disorder is good and hating people just because they have a disorder is bad.

The people who feel hate towards her because of an opening ceremony or a magazine cover or any other "leftist narrative" that has nothing to do with her, need to check themselves. She isn't why Bruce is Caitlyn now.  She isn't why the opening ceremony included a queer fashion show. 

Normally Joe Sixpack doesn't even notice women's boxing, let alone attribute anything happening in women's boxing to any disturbing global trend. It's not Joe Sixpack.  It's elements of the right wing international media, including Russia, that are pushing the narrative that the two are related.

Nobody is hating anyone for having a disorder.. The problem here is that certain people and companies are glorifying this mental illness in the guise of bravery and heroism. These people are not heroes, they're examples of a progressive paradigm to make money.. 

They're trying to create a niche market where there shouldn't be one.

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I think feeling sorry for people who have any kind of disorder is good and hating people just because they have a disorder is bad.

The people who feel hate towards her because of an opening ceremony or a magazine cover or any other "leftist narrative" that has nothing to do with her, need to check themselves. She isn't why Bruce is Caitlyn now.  She isn't why the opening ceremony included a queer fashion show. 

Normally Joe Sixpack doesn't even notice women's boxing, let alone attribute anything happening in women's boxing to any disturbing global trend. It's not Joe Sixpack.  It's elements of the right wing international media, including Russia, that are pushing the narrative that the two are related.

Nobody is hating anyone for having a disorder.. The problem here is that certain people and companies are glorifying this mental illness in the guise of bravery and heroism. These people are not heroes, they're examples of a progressive paradigm to make money.. 

They're trying to create a niche market where there shouldn't be one.

100% true that progressive media glorifies "coming out" as transgender and 100% true that transgenderism is a mental disorder or illness.  How we as society treat or ignore that disorder is up for discussion but it's definitely a mental disorder.

But this boxer doesn't have a mental disorder.  She has an endocrine disorder.  And I don't think anyone on the left was trying to score points on her story.  I think only people on the right were, in this case.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Oh, please spare us.  

Gun Rights ....  unless it's your daughter being gunned down by an AR-15 as she sits in a classroom or attends a concert event.

An AR-15 can't and won't "gun down" anyone or anything.  It's the person operating it that does the crime.

Then why ban anything.  I mean, I should be allowed to own grenades or plutonium then if we're going to place all the responsibility in the hands of the people, and not restrict the elements that cause extreme danger, if used in that manner.

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Nobody is hating anyone for having a disorder.. The problem here is that certain people and companies are glorifying this mental illness in the guise of bravery and heroism. These people are not heroes, they're examples of a progressive paradigm to make money.. 

They're trying to create a niche market where there shouldn't be one.

100% true that progressive media glorifies "coming out" as transgender and 100% true that transgenderism is a mental disorder or illness.  How we as society treat or ignore that disorder is up for discussion but it's definitely a mental disorder.

But this boxer doesn't have a mental disorder.  She has an endocrine disorder.  And I don't think anyone on the left was trying to score points on her story.  I think only people on the right were, in this case.

Ok let me get this straight. There are people born with male chromosomes. They may or may not have male/female parts. Their testosterone is higher giving them more strength than a female without male chromosomes because of this. Then there are people born male but have decided to identify as a female, also with higher testosterone.  In both senerios when these people compete against males with like levels of testosterone they can't win. However, when they compete against women whose testosterone is much lower they can win.  In the past these people have been given the opportunity to FAIRLY compete IF they took medication to lower their testosterone to the level of females? These boxers have not done that. You guys know the people born as women are banned from raising their testosterone to these levels?

PS. I fail to see the difference between these guys and the East German doping females.

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An AR-15 can't and won't "gun down" anyone or anything.  It's the person operating it that does the crime.

Then why ban anything.  I mean, I should be allowed to own grenades or plutonium then if we're going to place all the responsibility in the hands of the people, and not restrict the elements that cause extreme danger, if used in that manner.

Yes, that's right. Glad you're finally beginning to understand.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

As I said, it doesn't matter. Do you have a Y chromosome or not? The other stuff doesn't matter.

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That's certainly an opinion.

No it's called biology. It's  pretty simple. If you have an X and a Y you're a dude. Period end of story. There are situations where things are out of balance but at the end of the day a man is XY and that gives them physiological differences that are advantageous in strength and conditioning. 

Please stop acting like you're a specialist in the field. You're not. You're embarrassing yourself and you probably don't even know it.

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An AR-15 can't and won't "gun down" anyone or anything.  It's the person operating it that does the crime.

Then why ban anything.  I mean, I should be allowed to own grenades or plutonium then if we're going to place all the responsibility in the hands of the people, and not restrict the elements that cause extreme danger, if used in that manner.

I don't know about plutonium, but grenades would be fun.  I have been known to set off some tannerite or dynamite on occasion.

The part in bold is the right idea.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

That's certainly an opinion.

No it's called biology. It's  pretty simple. If you have an X and a Y you're a dude. Period end of story. There are situations where things are out of balance but at the end of the day a man is XY and that gives them physiological differences that are advantageous in strength and conditioning. 

Please stop acting like you're a specialist in the field. You're not. You're embarrassing yourself and you probably don't even know it.

There are no external or hormonal differences between XY people with complete androgen insensitivity and normal people with xx chromosomes.  They usually don't realize they are different until their period never comes and then they find out they have a vagina but no cervix.  They are not bigger or stronger than typical women.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Remember when you said this was about testosterone? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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He likes to move goalposts to suit his argument.

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