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(08-23-2024, 11:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote:
(08-23-2024, 10:40 PM)mikesez Wrote: He told them to go home around 4pm.
Most of them were off premises by 5 pm.
He told them to go home and they did.  Two facts.  Which do you dispute?

What did he do, call them all, maybe sent them a text or a quick email telling them to hit the road ? Maybe while in the midst of the violent insurrection they all just happened to stop in front of a TV to hear Trump tell them to split. Maybe the crypt keeper pelosi came out and told them Don said they needed to leave now. Buwaahahahaaa

The "protestors" all had smartphones and most were actively checking Twitter as the thing unfolded.  The video saying "go home now" was posted to Twitter first.
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Desperation makes a stinky cologne.

https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/182...r5hqA&s=19
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(08-24-2024, 02:35 AM)p_rushing Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 12:22 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I think you’re brushing it aside too quickly.  It’s widely considered any easier task to run when there’s no incumbent.  I’ve grown to like JD, but I don’t think the Dems at this juncture view him as a strong opponent in ‘28.  

I don’t believe that those that have aspirations, like Gavin from the Pelosi family/machine, really want to see Kamala win and potentially wait 8 years or longer if it swings back to Republicans after a hypothetical Harris regime.  Neither should the Obama’s really want to see her win if Big Mike has any political aspirations.  Could easily see either Gavin or Obama instructing their surrogates in the media to sabotage.  

It is odd though whatever the reason behind it.  And no I don’t trust it on its face as “honest journalism” given the [BLEEP] the  legacy media has tried sell in recent years.
Yeah I can see them waiting for 2028. No one wanted to be the VP, there is no way that's the pick after vetting if there were other options. They survived 4 years of Trump and think they can do it again. The MSM will provide cover again.

Either Trump will win and crush the uniparty never to return or their plans are just delayed 4 years.

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Newsom from Cali will run in 2028 for the Dems. They wanted him for 2024 but he declined. He has proved he can and will run a State into the ground while smiling.
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(08-24-2024, 08:44 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 02:35 AM)p_rushing Wrote: Yeah I can see them waiting for 2028. No one wanted to be the VP, there is no way that's the pick after vetting if there were other options. They survived 4 years of Trump and think they can do it again. The MSM will provide cover again.

Either Trump will win and crush the uniparty never to return or their plans are just delayed 4 years.

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Newsom from Cali will run in 2028 for the Dems. They wanted him for 2024 but he declined. He has proved he can and will run a State into the ground while smiling.

I’m curious if DeSantis will throw his hat in the ring. 

One things for sure, we’ll see a younger ticket on both sides in 2028, thankfully.
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(08-24-2024, 08:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 08:44 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Newsom from Cali will run in 2028 for the Dems. They wanted him for 2024 but he declined. He has proved he can and will run a State into the ground while smiling.

I’m curious if DeSantis will throw his hat in the ring. 

One things for sure, we’ll see a younger ticket on both sides in 2028, thankfully.

He will be 2 years out of being governor and the media has  wiped his success during COVID off the map like they did Trumps assassination attempt. Maybe Ron goes for senate or congress to keep his name out there,  but I'm not sure he has the "it" factor in 2028. 

Wrong place, wrong time for Ron unfortunately, because he would be an amazing president.
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(08-23-2024, 05:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-23-2024, 05:35 PM)copycat Wrote: You have lumped everyone peacefully protesting the election on Jan 6 as insurrectionist for years.  You have made a violent protest by a few into a resurrection and regardless of new data refuse to move off of that decision.  Your very response explains you 100%.  Intentionally or not this is all you.

No.  Completely wrong.
Approximately 2500 people entered the Capitol.
Each and every one of them, regardless of if they stole anything, or punched anyone, was trespassing with intent to disrupt a constitutionally mandated proceeding.
They showed up when Trump said to show up and only left when he said to leave.
They are the only ones I have ever been talking about.
It's all you guys who try so hard to deny this reality that unfolded on live TV, who try to say that I'm talking about more people or less things than I'm actually talking about.  There were peaceful folks at the ellipse and on the lawn that day.  But you can't call any of the ones who trespassed peaceful. And insurrection isn't about numbers.  In theory an act of insurrection could involve just one person.  You guys keep adding to what I'm saying to try to catch me in a contradiction.  Just enter reality with me!

Care to explain how you KNOW this to be true?  I know lots of people who hate Trump with a passion, and none of them, even those with a full-blown case of TDS, believe it. 

When the Leftist media tossed out the word "Insurrection" on Jan. 6th, you wrapped your arms around it, dove down the rabbit hole, and pulled the ground in around you.
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(08-24-2024, 09:19 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(08-23-2024, 05:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: No.  Completely wrong.
Approximately 2500 people entered the Capitol.
Each and every one of them, regardless of if they stole anything, or punched anyone, was trespassing with intent to disrupt a constitutionally mandated proceeding.
They showed up when Trump said to show up and only left when he said to leave.
They are the only ones I have ever been talking about.
It's all you guys who try so hard to deny this reality that unfolded on live TV, who try to say that I'm talking about more people or less things than I'm actually talking about.  There were peaceful folks at the ellipse and on the lawn that day.  But you can't call any of the ones who trespassed peaceful. And insurrection isn't about numbers.  In theory an act of insurrection could involve just one person.  You guys keep adding to what I'm saying to try to catch me in a contradiction.  Just enter reality with me!

Care to explain how you KNOW this to be true?  I know lots of people who hate Trump with a passion, and none of them, even those with a full-blown case of TDS, believe it. 

When the Leftist media tossed out the word "Insurrection" on Jan. 6th, you wrapped your arms around it, dove down the rabbit hole, and pulled the ground in around you.


A portion of the day's crowd invaded the Capitol grounds, fought with the police, pushed past police barricades, smashed windows, and invaded our seat of government with the intention of stopping our government from doing their Constitutionally mandated business.  They threatened to hang the Vice President and forced our elected representatives to flee in fear.  They broke into and vandalized Congressional offices.  

That's what happened on live TV.  What do you call it?  A riot?  And insurrection?  It's inexcusable.  But, of course, Trump wants to pardon all of them.  What a clown.  What an idiot.  How can anyone vote for that guy?  It's a cult.  He can do no wrong.

You can say I have TDS.  But there's no derangement in my dislike of Trump.  It is perfectly rational.  I think he's one of the worst things that ever happened to this country.  And the worst thing he has done is persuade millions of people that our elections are not being run honestly.  That is pure poison.
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(08-24-2024, 08:44 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 02:35 AM)p_rushing Wrote: Yeah I can see them waiting for 2028. No one wanted to be the VP, there is no way that's the pick after vetting if there were other options. They survived 4 years of Trump and think they can do it again. The MSM will provide cover again.

Either Trump will win and crush the uniparty never to return or their plans are just delayed 4 years.

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Newsom from Cali will run in 2028 for the Dems. They wanted him for 2024 but he declined. He has proved he can and will run a State into the ground while smiling.

Newsome will only be running if Harris doesn't win in November, and right now, I would make her a slight favorite to win.
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(08-24-2024, 09:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 08:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I’m curious if DeSantis will throw his hat in the ring. 

One things for sure, we’ll see a younger ticket on both sides in 2028, thankfully.

He will be 2 years out of being governor and the media has  wiped his success during COVID off the map like they did Trumps assassination attempt. Maybe Ron goes for senate or congress to keep his name out there,  but I'm not sure he has the "it" factor in 2028. 

Wrong place, wrong time for Ron unfortunately, because he would be an amazing president.

He'll be competing against Vance, Ramaswamy, and perhaps Haley again. I have my doubts she'll want to dip her toe back into the fray. I would like to see Tom Cotton give it a go, but I think he's content in the Senate. Who knows what contenders will emerge in the next four years.
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(08-24-2024, 09:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 08:56 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I’m curious if DeSantis will throw his hat in the ring. 

One things for sure, we’ll see a younger ticket on both sides in 2028, thankfully.

He will be 2 years out of being governor and the media has  wiped his success during COVID off the map like they did Trumps assassination attempt. Maybe Ron goes for senate or congress to keep his name out there,  but I'm not sure he has the "it" factor in 2028. 

Wrong place, wrong time for Ron unfortunately, because he would be an amazing president.

Ron DeSantis is a very intelligent guy with no personality.  That won't win a national election.
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(08-24-2024, 10:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 09:04 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: He will be 2 years out of being governor and the media has  wiped his success during COVID off the map like they did Trumps assassination attempt. Maybe Ron goes for senate or congress to keep his name out there,  but I'm not sure he has the "it" factor in 2028. 

Wrong place, wrong time for Ron unfortunately, because he would be an amazing president.

Ron DeSantis is a very intelligent guy with no personality.  That won't win a national election.

Exactly my point. Gotta have the "it" factor these days. Most Americans are too dumb to care about intelligence.
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(08-24-2024, 08:37 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Desperation makes a stinky cologne.

https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/182...r5hqA&s=19

It reminds me of the Brett Kavanaugh Resistance Movement when what's-her-name's testimony began to be revealed for the fraud it was. Some lefty chick gathered a bunch of reporters around and claimed Kavanaugh '30 YeaRs AGo hE hELd mE in a sTRangLeHold AGainst the waLL WitH One hANd whiLE HE SEXUALLY MOLESTED ME WITH THE OTHER!!!!'

Of course, the MSM ran with that for an afternoon before it was exposed as another obvious lie. 

These are the people who throw paint on pieces of art and sit in the middle of the road, creating hardship for working folks, while arrogantly claiming the moral high ground.
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(08-24-2024, 10:50 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 08:37 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Desperation makes a stinky cologne.

https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/182...r5hqA&s=19

It reminds me of the Brett Kavanaugh Resistance Movement when what's-her-name's testimony began to be revealed for the fraud it was. Some lefty chick gathered a bunch of reporters around and claimed Kavanaugh '30 YeaRs AGo hE hELd mE in a sTRangLeHold AGainst the waLL WitH One hANd whiLE HE SEXUALLY MOLESTED ME WITH THE OTHER!!!!'

Of course, the MSM ran with that for an afternoon before it was exposed as another obvious lie. 

These are the people who throw paint on pieces of art and sit in the middle of the road, creating hardship for working folks, while arrogantly claiming the moral high ground.

This [BLEEP] democrat paid liar?

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I'm convinced a license to vote should he required in this country.
https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1827...JAdhA&s=19
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(08-24-2024, 01:45 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I'm convinced a license to vote should he required in this country.
https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1827...JAdhA&s=19

Did that guy just interview Mikesez?


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(08-24-2024, 10:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 10:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Ron DeSantis is a very intelligent guy with no personality.  That won't win a national election.

Exactly my point. Gotta have the "it" factor these days. Most Americans are too dumb to care about intelligence.

That's not true. Most Americans are too dumb to see though the facade of the MSM. If they wanted to make DeSantis look good, most of us would have a completely different opinion of him. Take Kamala, for example...
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(08-24-2024, 01:45 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I'm convinced a license to vote should he required in this country.
https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1827...JAdhA&s=19

Absolutely 100% I wrote one of my college thesis on this topic.

The quantity of the vote is secondary to the quality of the vote. Only has to be accessible to all citizens but a competence test is 100% constitutional and needed. If you can’t identify the three branches of government or basic functions of government you shouldn’t be permitted to vote.
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(08-24-2024, 08:59 PM)EricC85 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 01:45 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I'm convinced a license to vote should he required in this country.
https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1827...JAdhA&s=19

Absolutely 100% I wrote one of my college thesis on this topic.

The quantity of the vote is secondary to the quality of the vote. Only has to be accessible to all citizens but a competence test is 100% constitutional and needed. If you can’t identify the three branches of government or basic functions of government you shouldn’t be permitted to vote.

I hear you but that's not the point of voting, in my opinion.

A gun doesn't care if the operator knows what the three branches of government are.  And if someone's pointing a gun at me, I'm not going to quiz them on how the government works or current events, not unless I think it might distract him long enough to point it down and let me pass.

The point of voting is to let anyone who cares about how things work and who is in charge get a chance to have a say.  The point is, as long as they feel like they had a fair say in it, they probably won't be motivated to take their gun and try to get their way by force.
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(08-24-2024, 09:46 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 08:59 PM)EricC85 Wrote: Absolutely 100% I wrote one of my college thesis on this topic.

The quantity of the vote is secondary to the quality of the vote. Only has to be accessible to all citizens but a competence test is 100% constitutional and needed. If you can’t identify the three branches of government or basic functions of government you shouldn’t be permitted to vote.

I hear you but that's not the point of voting, in my opinion.

A gun doesn't care if the operator knows what the three branches of government are.  And if someone's pointing a gun at me, I'm not going to quiz them on how the government works or current events, not unless I think it might distract him long enough to point it down and let me pass.

The point of voting is to let anyone who cares about how things work and who is in charge get a chance to have a say.  The point is, as long as they feel like they had a fair say in it, they probably won't be motivated to take their gun and try to get their way by force.

How did you get to guns?  I have had one for over 20 years and keep a close eye on it.  Mine must be hibernating or something. not once has it tried to hurt anyone. ???
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(08-24-2024, 09:52 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 09:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: I hear you but that's not the point of voting, in my opinion.

A gun doesn't care if the operator knows what the three branches of government are.  And if someone's pointing a gun at me, I'm not going to quiz them on how the government works or current events, not unless I think it might distract him long enough to point it down and let me pass.

The point of voting is to let anyone who cares about how things work and who is in charge get a chance to have a say.  The point is, as long as they feel like they had a fair say in it, they probably won't be motivated to take their gun and try to get their way by force.

How did you get to guns?  I have had one for over 20 years and keep a close eye on it.  Mine must be hibernating or something. not once has it tried to hurt anyone. ???

Change gun to sword, the point is the same.
The point of voting is to avert political violence.
The first group of people you try to ban from voting, you'd better take their guns too, because they're coming, sooner or later.
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