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DEBATE -- Trump v Harris

#81

(09-10-2024, 10:44 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(09-10-2024, 10:43 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Not The Bee lol

https://x.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1833694...hJZYg&s=19
https://youtu.be/U-jzYMSiNHQ?si=cLpYS6nknaBVG2QD

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Funny and sad at the same time.. I can dig it!
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#82

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#83

Harris campaign asking for another debate. This indicates they don't feel this moved the needle
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#84

(09-10-2024, 11:02 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Harris campaign asking for another debate. This indicates they don't feel this moved the needle

Hopefully we get better host and both candidates need to stop rambling.
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#85

RFK just went off again lol

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/18...62Dfg&s=19
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#86

I think Trump lost that debate. He may have cost himself the election. He's a broken record. He needed to make Kamala look bad, and he didn't. I think she's a liar. Trump is a 100% right that she will almost certainly not be doing any of these things she claims. It doesn't matter, though. She won't debate him again.
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#87

ABC is throwing around this graphic..

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#88

(09-11-2024, 12:01 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I think Trump lost that debate. He may have cost himself the election. He's a broken record. He needed to make Kamala look bad, and he didn't. I think she's a liar. Trump is a 100% right that she will almost certainly not be doing any of these things she claims. It doesn't matter, though. She won't debate him again.

Why would they hit the Taylor Swift panic button if she did that well? She gets a temporary bump at best.
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#89

In what world wasn't TS going to endorse Kamala? Look, if it will help, imagine what that debate would have looked like if Vivek had been debating Kamala.
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#90

This is it. This is the best the most powerful and dynamic country on earth has to offer as leadership.

Who “won” the debate is irrelevant. America is losing.
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#91
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2024, 06:07 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

(09-11-2024, 05:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: This is it. This is the best the most powerful and dynamic country on earth has to offer as leadership.

Who “won” the debate is irrelevant. America is losing.

I agree with you to a certain extent.  

But a candidate does show their mentality, their ability to focus, deal with pressure, and maintain emotional equilibrium on that stage, and Trump did not do well last night.  Republicans have painted Harris as an empty suit, and mentally deficient, and clearly she was much more than that last night.  A President has to be able to deal with world leaders one-on-one, under pressure, and he didn't look like someone who would be able to do that, and she did.  His answer about replacing Obamacare was also a disaster, with him saying he had a concept, and was looking at various things.  He's had 9 years to figure that one out.  She played on his narcissism, constantly baiting him, and he swallowed the hook every time.  Immigrants are eating our cats and dogs, they're killing newborn babies in Virginia, my rallies are the best rallies ever... she pushed his buttons and brought out the worst side of him.  

No one should vote based on the outcome of a debate, but it does give you a chance to see how the two candidates operate under pressure, and I think she did a lot better than he did.
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#92
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2024, 06:12 AM by Caldrac.)

(09-11-2024, 05:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: This is it. This is the best the most powerful and dynamic country on earth has to offer as leadership.

Who “won” the debate is irrelevant. America is losing.
We deserve this. We stood by over the past few decades, enabled this rhetoric, enabled these personalities and willfully and ignorantly went along with it.

I contemplate this country's future at this very moment. Sitting in a sauna. Wondering why we are the way we are. It just feels like one big confidence trick to me. A cruel joke that went too far.

At any rate. I'll be at the polls in November. Doing my part I suppose. Cheers. It's hump day.

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#93

(09-11-2024, 06:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(09-11-2024, 05:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: This is it. This is the best the most powerful and dynamic country on earth has to offer as leadership.

Who “won” the debate is irrelevant. America is losing.

I agree with you to a certain extent.  

But a candidate does show their mentality, their ability to focus, deal with pressure, and maintain emotional equilibrium on that stage, and Trump did not do well last night.  Republicans have painted Harris as an empty suit, and mentally deficient, and clearly she was much more than that last night.  A President has to be able to deal with world leaders one-on-one, under pressure, and he didn't look like someone who would be able to do that, and she did.  His answer about replacing Obamacare was also a disaster, with him saying he had a concept, and was looking at various things.  He's had 9 years to figure that one out.  She played on his narcissism, constantly baiting him, and he swallowed the hook every time.  Immigrants are eating our cats and dogs, they're killing newborn babies in Virginia, my rallies are the best rallies ever... she pushed his buttons and brought out the worst side of him.  

No one should vote based on the outcome of a debate, but it does give you a chance to see how the two candidates operate under pressure, and I think she did a lot better than he did.

I didn’t watch the debate and in no way am I excusing Trump’s performance, but the Democrat’s own PR machine, the MSM, took part themselves in exposing Harris’s own deficiencies over the last 3 and a half years. 

To me, your argument is simply justification of why you’re voting for her.
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#94

I was under the mistaken impression there was going to be a debate.

I'm not sure what that was.
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#95
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2024, 06:42 AM by WingerDinger. Edited 2 times in total.)

Just because those shill lib moderators failed to cover it, doesn't mean it didn't happen..

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...FEaEA&s=19

There’s a police report, police call recording, and testimony from residents about Haitains stealing and eating animals in Ohio.

ABC “fact checked” Trump on this and let Kamala get away with the bloodbath hoax, fine people hoax, and lying about police dying on Jan 6, violent crime being down, and not wanting to take away your guns.
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#96
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2024, 06:53 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 2 times in total.)

(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(09-11-2024, 06:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I agree with you to a certain extent.  

But a candidate does show their mentality, their ability to focus, deal with pressure, and maintain emotional equilibrium on that stage, and Trump did not do well last night.  Republicans have painted Harris as an empty suit, and mentally deficient, and clearly she was much more than that last night.  A President has to be able to deal with world leaders one-on-one, under pressure, and he didn't look like someone who would be able to do that, and she did.  His answer about replacing Obamacare was also a disaster, with him saying he had a concept, and was looking at various things.  He's had 9 years to figure that one out.  She played on his narcissism, constantly baiting him, and he swallowed the hook every time.  Immigrants are eating our cats and dogs, they're killing newborn babies in Virginia, my rallies are the best rallies ever... she pushed his buttons and brought out the worst side of him.  

No one should vote based on the outcome of a debate, but it does give you a chance to see how the two candidates operate under pressure, and I think she did a lot better than he did.

I didn’t watch the debate and in no way am I excusing Trump’s performance, but the Democrat’s own PR machine, the MSM, took part themselves in exposing Harris’s own deficiencies over the last 3 and a half years. 

To me, your argument is simply justification of why you’re voting for her.

You may be right, but it's also justification for my very low opinion of Trump.  Believe me, if the Republicans had nominated almost anyone else, I would not be voting for her.   I think the debate exposed him for what he is, which is- not mentally qualified to be President of the United States, which, by the way, dozens of former high-ranking Trump staffers agree with, including many former cabinet members.  

Like I said before, I agree with her on some issues, and I agree with him on some issues, so I have to base my vote on whom I think has the temperament, the brainpower, and the personality to function effectively as President.  And it's not him.  Kamala Harris pushed his buttons and played him like a fiddle, right there on stage, when he should have been prepared, so if you still think Kamala Harris is an empty suit, what do you think other people who are not an empty suit will do with him?
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#97

(09-11-2024, 06:48 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I didn’t watch the debate and in no way am I excusing Trump’s performance, but the Democrat’s own PR machine, the MSM, took part themselves in exposing Harris’s own deficiencies over the last 3 and a half years. 

To me, your argument is simply justification of why you’re voting for her.

You may be right, but it's also justification for my very low opinion of Trump.  Believe me, if the Republicans had nominated almost anyone else, I would not be voting for her.   I think the debate exposed him for what he is, which is- not mentally qualified to be President of the United States, which, by the way, dozens of former high-ranking Trump staffers agree with, including many former cabinet members.  

Like I said before, I agree with her on some issues, and I agree with him on some issues, so I have to base my vote on whom I think has the temperament, the brainpower, and the personality to function effectively as President.  And it's not him.  Kamala Harris pushed his buttons and played him like a fiddle, right there on stage, when he should have been prepared, so if you still think Kamala Harris is an empty suit, what do you think other people who are not an empty suit will do with him?

I won’t disagree about Trump, however, I will ask if you could provide an example of when he was goaded into making an irrational decision during his term. I’m not denying it happened, but an example to backup your assertion would be nice.

On the other side, Harris is an empty vessel. She may have sounded prepared last night because that’s exactly what she was; groomed and coached. On her feet she’s not smart. If she wins the election, she will be a willing figurehead for others to manipulate. Of this I have no doubt.
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#98

(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Just because those shill lib moderators failed to cover it, doesn't mean it didn't happen..

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/183373...FEaEA&s=19

There’s a police report, police call recording, and testimony from residents about Haitains stealing and eating animals in Ohio.

ABC “fact checked” Trump on this and let Kamala get away with the bloodbath hoax, fine people hoax, and lying about police dying on Jan 6, violent crime being down, and not wanting to take away your guns.

You post evidence that people saw them take geese from the park.  Say that's true.  They wouldn't go to jail for that.  They would get a citation and get fined.

But the allegation was they took somebody's cat.  That they would probably go to jail for. But is there actually any evidence of it?
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#99

(09-11-2024, 07:35 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Just because those shill lib moderators failed to cover it, doesn't mean it didn't happen..

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/183373...FEaEA&s=19

There’s a police report, police call recording, and testimony from residents about Haitains stealing and eating animals in Ohio.

ABC “fact checked” Trump on this and let Kamala get away with the bloodbath hoax, fine people hoax, and lying about police dying on Jan 6, violent crime being down, and not wanting to take away your guns.

You post evidence that people saw them take geese from the park.  Say that's true.  They wouldn't go to jail for that.  They would get a citation and get fined.

But the allegation was they took somebody's cat.  That they would probably go to jail for. But is there actually any evidence of it?

So you want video of people eating our pets?

Do you really understand how jackassy that is? Usually police reports are good enough..

So here's body cam footage for you.

https://twitter.com/akafacehots/status/1...YSgsg&s=19
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(09-11-2024, 07:35 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(09-11-2024, 06:41 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Just because those shill lib moderators failed to cover it, doesn't mean it didn't happen..

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/183373...FEaEA&s=19

There’s a police report, police call recording, and testimony from residents about Haitains stealing and eating animals in Ohio.

ABC “fact checked” Trump on this and let Kamala get away with the bloodbath hoax, fine people hoax, and lying about police dying on Jan 6, violent crime being down, and not wanting to take away your guns.

You post evidence that people saw them take geese from the park.  Say that's true.  They wouldn't go to jail for that.  They would get a citation and get fined.

But the allegation was they took somebody's cat.  That they would probably go to jail for. But is there actually any evidence of it?

The fact THEY are even there is THE problem.
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