So why DID that Canadian Goose cross the street?

Asking for a friend lolol

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I do not believe this debate changed anyone's mind.

People already forgot it happened.  I have seen several independent panels and most are unswayed. 

Even the usual suspects here aren't gloating about her performance. That is your true litmus test.

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Wonder if having it the day before 9/11 was an intentional thing?

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

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The President doesn't debate other people on an open stage.  Phone calls and one-on-one meetings are in a completely different environment and decisions made in the Oval Office can be considered with the input and benefit of staff, advisers, etc. 

Trump is far from eloquent, but he can deliver a prepared speech reasonably well.  In a debate, or Q & A session, he's terrible.  He simply can't stop talking about himself and insulting others, which is his greatest flaw in my opinion.  He could have, and should have, hit the ball out of the park on immigration and he got a weak single at best. 

Overall, neither candidate was smart enough to give a quick and concise answer to any question and stop there.  Just because you have two minutes to respond doesn't mean it's in your best interest to do so, especially when it's a subject in your favor.  Score the hit and get out and make your opponent play defense.  If you make the point, then ramble on about some none-related issue, you're minimizing the impact of your own primary point.

If only we had actual historical evidence of how Trump would deal with world leaders…

That's a point that nobody seems to be emphasizing.  Love it or hate it, we KNOW what his administration will look like, and his policies aren't a mystery.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

Economists must think Harris is going to win. The Dow Jones is sinking hard today.

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I don't think Trump did as well as he could/should have, but if you watched that and thought Kamala won you might be more of a left wing cheerleader than an observer trying to remain objective. Kamala comes off very unlikeable and unpresidential with her coached smug smile with hand under chin multiple times. Her constant hand motions, body language, facial expressions and tone of voice are also unbearable to behold.

Trump kept his attention toward the moderators and the camera 99% of the time with an occasional eyeroll to something Kamala said. Kamala turned her attention toward Trump at least half the time which appeared to me to be an admission that this was the big powerful man in the room who has a lead in the polls and she is the lowly challenger. It's been said that this was strategy on her part which I can see being the case, but I don't think it did her any favors with Trump not turning his attention toward her much at all. It made her look insignificant and petty body language wise by comparison.

This is all before we get to the content of what was said. I think L2L is correct in that Trump's manner of speaking did him no favors last night, but he did touch on important issues affecting Americans at the moment such as illegal immigration, the economy and inflation and has a track record worth running on. Kamala talked more in platitudes and free money and heart string pulls with her tone at times. I didn't really hear any proposals from her aside from free money which isn't really free, someone's paying for it. Again, Trump didn't knock it out of the park as he should have, but Kamala didn't win anything last night. I guess not getting run out of the gym can be viewed as a moral victory. And the moderators were garbage btw.

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Wonder if having it the day before 9/11 was an intentional thing?

Found it odd not a single question or mention of it. Trump had opportunity when talking about taliban.

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Economists must think Harris is going to win. The Dow Jones is sinking hard today.

Just wait til she taxes unrealized gains.

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Kamala's tone, pacing and body language reeks of forced effort, C grade hollywood acting and completely unnatural. She's fake as [BLEEP]. It's clear as day to see.

Hanging your hat on having support of 200 "Republicans", such as the Neocons and Warhawks she rattled off should have raised even more eyebrows if you're leaning towards her in November.

I didn't get any real sense or feel on neither of their policies and overall plans though. A lot of fluff being thrown around. However, I at least have four previous years of Trump to determine his capabilities Vs. Harris who has done effectively nothing with Biden in three and a half.

The biggest thing she kept bringing up was women's rights, abortion, etc. I think Trump is probably one of the most liberal Republican's I can recall of in terms of Abortion's. I think he has the right of it with leaving it up to the states. I want less Government involvement in a lot of areas. Period.

I think Geopoltically, Trump has her beat. I think Economically, Trump has her beat. I think the border situation is a unique challenge. Perhaps, too far gone at this point to realistically do much about it.

I think he was spot on about Iran, Israel, Ukraine, Russia, China and North Korea. At the end of the day. If all she wants to keep spouting on about is January 6th, Project 2025, the Tiki Torch White Boys, Women's reproductive rights and Russian collusion?

Have at it. It's been debunked into the dirt now many times and I don't think the temperature has changed much. Again, as a steadfast Independent. He's getting my vote in November. The Democrats need to work harder these next four years for a legitimate candidate worthy of voting for.

I can tell you now, that, regardless of this election's outcome. I am leaning towards Vivek or Gabbard in 2028 if their names end up on the ticket and they continue to build upon what they've been able to accomplish this cycle.

We're almost out of this muck. This quagmire of nonsense both parties have covered themselves in and made their beds with.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I do not believe this debate changed anyone's mind.

I don't really think it changed peoples mind, but it may have motivated people to get out and vote.  What I mean by this is there's a surge of Dem voting activists encouraging people to vote.   Many Dems wanted Michelle Obama and I think last night they got a close resemblance of what they envisioned, someone who is articulate and talks to the people in a way they can relate.

** I'm simply stating my opinion of how I view the impact of the Debate from a Dem perspective  -- nothing more and nothing less.  I'm not here to debate the Debate ***

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Nobody on this board changed their mind based on the debate performance.
Each performed as their base expected them to, no better no worse.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Nobody on this board changed their mind based on the debate performance.
Each performed as their base expected them to, no better no worse.

HA !!  Trump could implement a Passover in which the MAGA population had to sacrifice their 1st born and it wouldn't change their minds.  They're definitely loyal.

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Economists must think Harris is going to win. The Dow Jones is sinking hard today.

DJT stock is sinking even harder.  Down 14% since yesterday's close as of right now.

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You may be right, but it's also justification for my very low opinion of Trump.  Believe me, if the Republicans had nominated almost anyone else, I would not be voting for her.   I think the debate exposed him for what he is, which is- not mentally qualified to be President of the United States, which, by the way, dozens of former high-ranking Trump staffers agree with, including many former cabinet members.  

Like I said before, I agree with her on some issues, and I agree with him on some issues, so I have to base my vote on whom I think has the temperament, the brainpower, and the personality to function effectively as President.  And it's not him.  Kamala Harris pushed his buttons and played him like a fiddle, right there on stage, when he should have been prepared, so if you still think Kamala Harris is an empty suit, what do you think other people who are not an empty suit will do with him?

If Trump loses this election, I have to think the GOP is done with the MAGA movement and goes through a makeover. Youngkin and DeSantis will be extremely popular in 2028. As someone who lives in Virginia, I really like Youngkin. 60% approval in a blue state. I've always said Trump should have made him his VP pick. He is kind of like Trump, I guess, in that he doesn't have a political background but he's very good at being a governor and leading. And if our economy continues to fall apart, why not choose someone who actually has a surplus in his state?

I am like you...not a huge Trump guy but still I am voting for him because I think she is just a terrible candidate and is only going to make inflation and the economy worse. This country is in trouble if her and Walz end up in the WH. The only saving grace is the GOP wins the Senate and keeps a lot of her radical ideas from getting through. But I do not trust her on foreign policy at all. That's one area I do think Trump blew her away on last night. I wish like hell the ABC mods would have pressed her more on Afghanistan, but God forbid they do that. That was a 3-on-1 last night. 

I do hope they have another debate and it's on Fox. I think fair is fair. He's done two debates on liberal networks. It's only fair the other side does one on a more right-wing network.

I've read each post about the debate and none are surprising. Republicans ( especially MAGA ) were going to state that Trump won while Democrats would take the opposite position. Let's face it, most people are not able to do an " about face " regarding political views they have had for many years. Their fragile egos would not allow this to happen.

I'd like to respond to your comments regarding Youngkin. While I can't claim to be knowledgeable about all his beliefs, it is my opinion that he would have handily defeated Harris in November. Had more Republican leaders come out against Trump being their candidate, there would have been a decent chance that he would have not become the nominee. These leaders remained quiet, because they were well aware that they would be voted out of office like Liz Cheney. There are many great quotes about the allure of power. My favorite is: " It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it." Most politicians eventually become corrupt; there is little doubt about that. 

An unbiased person watching last night's debate would have come to the conclusion that Harris " cleaned Trump's clock. " There will be enough undecided voters prior to this debate who will now vote for Harris to enable her to win the election. Instead of blaming the media and claiming the election was rigged, Republicans need to face the facts that they have only themselves to blame. Due to the economy and border, this election was their's to lose and it looks like they've accomplished just that. 

For those of you who will portray me as a " Trump hating liberal " let me make things simple for you. I try not to "hate" anyone since hate is a self-destructive emotion. However,  I do believe Trump is a despicable human being who stands for nothing but himself. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past depending on their stance regarding issues that matter most to me. Some of you will not believe that ( it's o.k., I get it ). The candidate's character has never been as important to me as their policies since none of us truly know what others really believe in other than our best friends and close family members. Donald Trump is the exception to this rule. While I may not have ever personally met him, I feel very confident that my beliefs about him are justified.

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Nobody on this board changed their mind based on the debate performance.
Each performed as their base expected them to, no better no worse.

Just a wild guess, but I would think she could pick up maybe half a point in the polls.  That doesn't seem like much, but in a very tight race, it could be the difference.

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Economists must think Harris is going to win. The Dow Jones is sinking hard today.

DJT stock is sinking even harder.  Down 14% since yesterday's close as of right now.

After lucking out a few weeks ago buying at $40 and doubling down at $30 then selling back at $45, I bought the dip yesterday prior to close thinking Trump would crush it last night.  Now I'm just going to hold and pray.  Luckily NVDL is having a good day....

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DJT stock is sinking even harder.  Down 14% since yesterday's close as of right now.

After lucking out a few weeks ago buying at $40 and doubling down at $30 then selling back at $45, I bought the dip yesterday prior to close thinking Trump would crush it last night.  Now I'm just going to hold and pray.  Luckily NVDL is having a good day....

CCL is a buy. Always.

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Core inflation up again.Kamala is screwed.

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I didn't watch the whole thing last night, maybe the first 30 minutes or so.  One thing that I did notice right away was that commie-la didn't really answer questions directly.  Here responses all seemed to be canned, memorized talking points regarding the subject.  I give her credit for memorizing her statements and being able to recite them without a teleprompter to help her.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

After lucking out a few weeks ago buying at $40 and doubling down at $30 then selling back at $45, I bought the dip yesterday prior to close thinking Trump would crush it last night.  Now I'm just going to hold and pray.  Luckily NVDL is having a good day....

CCL is a buy. Always.

Got a balance between CCL, NCLH, and RCL -- RCL is the most stable but CCI seems to have bigger swings, which aligns more with my pro-risk mindset.

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CCL is a buy. Always.

Got a balance between CCL, NCLH, and RCL -- RCL is the most stable but CCI seems to have bigger swings, which aligns more with my pro-risk mindset.

CCL has the most fights and poverty stricken vacation goers. It will never go under. I loaded up when it went down to 6 or something. 

I was just trolling JIB saying it's a buy right now. I wouldn't buy at this price. 

My goal is to own enough one day to where they let me name a ship which would be Poverty of the Seas.

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