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(09-13-2024, 10:10 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Darby gave up 175 yards last week.  The worst corner in the league week 1.  He needs to be much better against Cooper this week

PFR has Darby at 5 completions allowed for 102 yards. 
1 TFL
1 PD
5 Tackles
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(09-13-2024, 02:58 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 10:10 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Darby gave up 175 yards last week.  The worst corner in the league week 1.  He needs to be much better against Cooper this week

PFR has Darby at 5 completions allowed for 102 yards. 
1 TFL
1 PD
5 Tackles

At 1:28 he talks about it.

https://youtu.be/Ppc3c1REVWY?si=jiOxEothDGjMXmKo&t=88
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(09-13-2024, 03:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 02:58 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: PFR has Darby at 5 completions allowed for 102 yards. 
1 TFL
1 PD
5 Tackles

At 1:28 he talks about it.

https://youtu.be/Ppc3c1REVWY?si=jiOxEothDGjMXmKo&t=88

Who is the "he" in this video? Because when it starts out "At least the Jaguars hung around in their loss" I tend to ignore whatever else he says. Then he shows the Hill crosser where the safety help slipped and missed the tackle...well, I don't think Darby is on the hook for that one. They schemed it up and Cisco slipped.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(09-13-2024, 03:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 03:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: At 1:28 he talks about it.

https://youtu.be/Ppc3c1REVWY?si=jiOxEothDGjMXmKo&t=88

Who is the "he" in this video? Because when it starts out "At least the Jaguars hung around in their loss" I tend to ignore whatever else he says. Then he shows the Hill crosser where the safety help slipped and missed the tackle...well, I don't think Darby is on the hook for that one. They schemed it up and Cisco slipped.

Its the guy that works for the NFL, probaby the same place he got his stats from.  Its better than what Al Michaels said.  

Huh?  Lol  That was absolutely on Darby.  Darby was in man coverage on Hill and he got burned and then Cisco got burned. 

When corners are in man coverage and get roasted by the WR you just put that on the safety and dont fault the corner that gets burned?  Ok lol
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A guy said a thing on youtube.

Gotta be legit
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(09-13-2024, 05:23 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: A guy said a thing on youtube.

Gotta be legit

That wasn't just some guy on YouTube.  Its a guy that works for the NFL and does All game previews each week on NFL.com. Ill take the guys word that works for the NFL over some guy on the Jags message board lol.
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(09-13-2024, 05:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 03:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Who is the "he" in this video? Because when it starts out "At least the Jaguars hung around in their loss" I tend to ignore whatever else he says. Then he shows the Hill crosser where the safety help slipped and missed the tackle...well, I don't think Darby is on the hook for that one. They schemed it up and Cisco slipped.

Its the guy that works for the NFL, probaby the same place he got his stats from.  Its better than what Al Michaels said.  

Huh?  Lol  That was absolutely on Darby.  Darby was in man coverage on Hill and he got burned and then Cisco got burned. 

When corners are in man coverage and get roasted by the WR you just put that on the safety and dont fault the corner that gets burned?  Ok lol

Are we really going to criticise a DB for losing a foot race to Tyreek Hill on one play?

Tough crowd
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(09-13-2024, 07:55 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 05:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Its the guy that works for the NFL, probaby the same place he got his stats from.  Its better than what Al Michaels said.  

Huh?  Lol  That was absolutely on Darby.  Darby was in man coverage on Hill and he got burned and then Cisco got burned. 

When corners are in man coverage and get roasted by the WR you just put that on the safety and dont fault the corner that gets burned?  Ok lol

Are we really going to criticise a DB for losing a foot race to Tyreek Hill on one play?

Tough crowd
Not really criticizing him saying he got beat, just saying what happened.   Hes not playing Hill this week so I want to see a good game from Darby against Cooper.
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(09-13-2024, 07:55 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 05:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Its the guy that works for the NFL, probaby the same place he got his stats from.  Its better than what Al Michaels said.  

Huh?  Lol  That was absolutely on Darby.  Darby was in man coverage on Hill and he got burned and then Cisco got burned. 

When corners are in man coverage and get roasted by the WR you just put that on the safety and dont fault the corner that gets burned?  Ok lol

Are we really going to criticise a DB for losing a foot race to Tyreek Hill on one play?

Tough crowd
I’m not worried about Darby. He’s going to be just fine.

For this game, I’m worried about Myles Garrett and that’s it. If the Jags can contain him, they win. If he goes off, they’ll lose.
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(09-13-2024, 05:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 05:23 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: A guy said a thing on youtube.

Gotta be legit

That wasn't just some guy on YouTube.  Its a guy that works for the NFL and does All game previews each week on NFL.com. Ill take the guys word that works for the NFL over some guy on the Jags message board lol.

I cited pro football reference 

It's a respected stats site 

Some dude that does game previews for nfl.com is not an authority on DB coverage assignments, pal
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(09-13-2024, 05:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 03:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Who is the "he" in this video? Because when it starts out "At least the Jaguars hung around in their loss" I tend to ignore whatever else he says. Then he shows the Hill crosser where the safety help slipped and missed the tackle...well, I don't think Darby is on the hook for that one. They schemed it up and Cisco slipped.

Its the guy that works for the NFL, probaby the same place he got his stats from.  Its better than what Al Michaels said.  

Huh?  Lol  That was absolutely on Darby.  Darby was in man coverage on Hill and he got burned and then Cisco got burned. 

When corners are in man coverage and get roasted by the WR you just put that on the safety and dont fault the corner that gets burned?  Ok lol

Darby got beat to the inside. It should've been a 10 yard gain had Cisco not slipped. The catch is on Darby, the TD is on the Safety. Darby is not a single up and follow him everywhere corner and no one in the NFL plays Tyreek Hill that way no matter who they have at CB.  As usual your analysis is 1st grade level.

And of course he works for the NFL and talks down about the Jags, that SOP for them.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(09-14-2024, 07:31 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 05:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That wasn't just some guy on YouTube.  Its a guy that works for the NFL and does All game previews each week on NFL.com. Ill take the guys word that works for the NFL over some guy on the Jags message board lol.

I cited pro football reference 

It's a respected stats site 

Some dude that does game previews for nfl.com is not an authority on DB coverage assignments, pal

It's the NFL's stats.  Even if he gave up 102 yards like you say it doesn't make it much better pal.  It's not ideal playing man against that Miami defense as much as we did because you will get hit with the bug plays like Waddle and Hill done and why i.wqs worried about the week 1 matchup.
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(09-14-2024, 07:56 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-13-2024, 05:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Its the guy that works for the NFL, probaby the same place he got his stats from.  Its better than what Al Michaels said.  

Huh?  Lol  That was absolutely on Darby.  Darby was in man coverage on Hill and he got burned and then Cisco got burned. 

When corners are in man coverage and get roasted by the WR you just put that on the safety and dont fault the corner that gets burned?  Ok lol

Darby got beat to the inside. It should've been a 10 yard gain had Cisco not slipped. The catch is on Darby, the TD is on the Safety. Darby is not a single up and follow him everywhere corner and no one in the NFL plays Tyreek Hill that way no matter who they have at CB.  As usual your analysis is 1st grade level.

And of course he works for the NFL and talks down about the Jags, that SOP for them.
Even if Cisco didn't slip he wouldn't of caught him. Darby is a man corner and that's why we brought him here and you will be seeing that every week. His shadow rate last year was actually 43.7%. Almost half his plays he shadows his defender.

  Nielsen's defense will play Tyreeke like that, we just seen it. The Bills defense actually maned up on him the other night as well and played Hill very good.   Your analysis is Pre K level as usual.
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Lol, so less than half the time. He's a balanced guy who can play man. He's not a hip pocket guy and never has been. The safties have to be on their games so that plays don't become 80 yard TDs. Your first sentence is just wrong, the slip gave up the chunk.
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Man. We really tripping on Darby not being to cover the most uncoverable WR since Randy Moss?
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(09-14-2024, 10:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Man. We really tripping on Darby not being to cover the most uncoverable WR since Randy Moss?

Yes, we demand FULL CONSITENCY!!!!
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(09-14-2024, 10:53 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 10:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Man. We really tripping on Darby not being to cover the most uncoverable WR since Randy Moss?

Yes, we demand FULL CONSITENCY!!!!

NO!  Not FULL CONSISTENCY!
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(09-14-2024, 10:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: Man. We really tripping on Darby not being to cover the most uncoverable WR since Randy Moss?

Not at all.  He has Cooper this week another tough matchup.  I think he plays much better this week.  Need Brown to step up as well and a good game from both safties.  I think Lloyd gets a pick

(09-14-2024, 12:47 PM)copycat Wrote:
(09-14-2024, 10:53 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes, we demand FULL CONSITENCY!!!!

NO!  Not FULL CONSISTENCY!

He's fine with only 3 quarters worth lol
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On the way to Jax to watch the game. Can't wait
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Bills next week, really need to head 1-1 into that game.
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