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Offensive Line 2024
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10-03-2024, 12:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2024, 12:15 AM by TDOSS. Edited 2 times in total.)
(10-02-2024, 11:38 PM)carp8dm Wrote:Well if my memory serve me correct he had developed alot of QBs that were known to be below average such as Wentz (before he got injured).(10-02-2024, 11:32 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Well, you can't substantially increase IQ. Small sample size but you could argue Trevors numbers improved on Dougs arrival. To answer your question - I don't want neither of them in the future here in Jacksonville. I think both peaked and it's time to move on. (10-02-2024, 11:38 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(10-02-2024, 11:32 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Well, you can't substantially increase IQ. Neither can Trevor. He seems lost on the field without instructions. Remember, a QB is like a point guard, his job is to set up the offense for success. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-03-2024, 12:07 AM)TDOSS Wrote:(10-02-2024, 11:38 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Finally, we agree. This Pederson staff can't figure it out. LOL. I'm being sardonic.Well if my memory serve me correct he had developed alot of QBs that were known to be below average such as Wentz (before he got injured). I enjoy reading your posts. I disagree with some. But there are other points you make that gives me pause to rethink my thoughts. I'm still not convinced it's time to move off Trevor. I have faith with the right staff around him, he can be great. We can revisit this after next season, I guess. I've been a die-hard Jags fan since 2007. T-Law is the best QB this franchise has had since I've been following this team. He's shell shocked from the lack of pass protection in 2023. But I think he can overcome that. But that's just faith. I have no proof of it. But I also don't think you have proof that Trevor is so washed that we need to scrap the entire thing and find a new QB.
Oline is improving each week and 2 good games in a row. Chemistry is a thing with oline and some might be more complicated than others depending on the scheme. Hopefully this is the case and we see this kind of play each with with improvement and cohesion still.
(10-06-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Oline is improving each week and 2 good games in a row. Chemistry is a thing with oline and some might be more complicated than others depending on the scheme. Hopefully this is the case and we see this kind of play each with with improvement and cohesion still. They pass blocked well enough against a bunch of scrubs with Trevor throwing quick and did okay running the ball, too. We're in the easy part the schedule for now. Hopefully they get some confidence and rhythm for when it turns difficult, again. (10-06-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Oline is improving each week and 2 good games in a row. Chemistry is a thing with oline and some might be more complicated than others depending on the scheme. Hopefully this is the case and we see this kind of play each with with improvement and cohesion still. O-Line looked clean. Baalke Master Class, after all? Of course, it could just be that the clots are even more [BLEEP] tier than we are... On to next week. But you have to give credit where it's due. Trevor had all day to throw the ball. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(10-06-2024, 06:13 PM)carp8dm Wrote:Colts dline isn't good by any stretch with Paye and Buckner out. But we had our best LB, corner, and TE out so no excuses. They looked good against the Texans last week(10-06-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Oline is improving each week and 2 good games in a row. Chemistry is a thing with oline and some might be more complicated than others depending on the scheme. Hopefully this is the case and we see this kind of play each with with improvement and cohesion still.
These guys have been playing very well and continue to do so.
Seeing Ezra Cleveland running down field to plow through the lone defender trying to bring down Tank on that long run was just beautiful. I saw Morse with some tough blocks as well. This team desperately needed to impose their will on our opponents - and they definitely did with the offensive and defensive lines.
2 weeks of good pass pro
one week of good run blocking They seem to be finding a groove. Hope they can keep it up against some defenses not run by Gus Bradley
10-06-2024, 10:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-06-2024, 10:10 PM by carp8dm. Edited 1 time in total.)
It's interesting how well an O-Line looks when the play calling isn't so easy to anticipate... I'm not calling out anything other than the fact that there are clearly different plays being called than what we have seen for 10 games in a row.
It's as though this team decided that they all need to do better. But it has become clear over the last few weeks that the O-Line isn't the worst in the league. They do enough help this team. Now the rest of the team has to continue to get better too. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-06-2024, 10:08 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: 2 weeks of good pass pro clots DL is in shambles injury wise, so that is what it is. It was nice seeing them hold Hunter and Anderson Jr. in check the week before though. That's a legit duo off the Edge that can wreck games. (10-06-2024, 10:09 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:(10-06-2024, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's interesting how well an O-Line looks when the play calling isn't so easy to anticipate... It's the chicken and the egg... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=095gSuZfgu0
(10-06-2024, 10:13 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(10-06-2024, 10:09 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: It's amazing how good they play calling looks when players execute their assignments Not really, bad players aren't helped by play calling but good players can overcome it. It Players Not Plays, always. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-06-2024, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's interesting how well an O-Line looks when the play calling isn't so easy to anticipate... Exactly. And we can do better than that, too. Everyone needs to work on their pre-snap movements, get them under control, but they're getting better.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
(10-06-2024, 10:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(10-06-2024, 10:13 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's the chicken and the egg... We just won a game. I'm happy. But I disagree with this. And I always will. Good night, my fellow Jaguar fan. We'll argue again soon.
(10-06-2024, 10:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(10-06-2024, 10:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Not really, bad players aren't helped by play calling but good players can overcome it. It Players Not Plays, always. That's ok, show me the Super Bowl team made up of trash players that won because of the play calling. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(10-06-2024, 10:25 PM)mikesez Wrote:(10-06-2024, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's interesting how well an O-Line looks when the play calling isn't so easy to anticipate... The only thing different about the play calling in this game was that Pederson put together a game plan that every offensive staff worth its salt would run against a Gus Bradley defense. They worked the flats and underneath because Gus concedes it to (try to) prevent the explosive plays. Gus has been a coach in this league nearly 20 years and everyone knows how to attack his scheme. Including Doug Pederson and Press Taylor. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (10-06-2024, 06:11 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:(10-06-2024, 06:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Oline is improving each week and 2 good games in a row. Chemistry is a thing with oline and some might be more complicated than others depending on the scheme. Hopefully this is the case and we see this kind of play each with with improvement and cohesion still. Gotta wonder how much of that is Gus' ineptitude, we all know that pressure does not agree with our line or our QB, and they did not appear to blitz or collapse the pocket at all. You love to see it.
They seem to be gelling better now for the second week in a row. With that said? These next two games in London are massive for them and it will not be that easy. Chicago and New England are no pushovers and they have some talent on defense.
BIG time chance to come back to the states 3 - 4 but they have to keep playing the way they have been playing or BETTER over these past two weeks. ![]() "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (10-06-2024, 10:08 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's interesting how well an O-Line looks when the play calling isn't so easy to anticipate... I'm not calling out anything other than the fact that there are clearly different plays being called than what we have seen for 10 games in a row. I really think this is grasping at straws. It wasn't that we were calling such a diverse playbook, it was more of the same as we did against HOU....quick plays to get the ball out of Trevor's hands, big chunks in the run game, only difference this week was Trevor nailed his deep heaves. We still nearly [bleep] the bed late with a 3-and-out with two passes when our best strat was to handoff and run. That's nothing new either, unfortunately. (10-06-2024, 10:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote:(10-06-2024, 10:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Not really, bad players aren't helped by play calling but good players can overcome it. It Players Not Plays, always. The Venn diagram is never one circle, nor is it two distinct circles. We called good plays, we were at the line with plenty of time on the play clock, we were intentional. Those are all great developments over the past week or two. Maybe we need to put more effort into preseason ball so we don't come out so rusty? I dunno. |
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