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Poll: Fire Doug Pederson?
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Fire Doug Pederson?

#1

I've seen enough.  

I know it is players making dumb mistakes and failing to execute assignments that is losing most of these games, but he has to figure out a way to alter that -  these last 16 games or so have been mostly excruciating to watch. 

And for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't like Trevor Lawrence, but this man does not like Trevor Lawrence, LOL

https://x.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

https://twitter.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620
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#2

He's been inching his way down the plank of joblessness.

He's been doomed since the ETN fumble against Miami for me.

What's baffling is his unfettered loyalty to Press Taylor - and if he doesn't make a move on Nielson, the same could be applied there as well. This is a performance-based league and clearly we've been lacking in that department - and he has to go.

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#3

While he should be fired now, there is no logical choice to replace him with. McCoy is not HC material lets not let him run out 3 wins at the end of season so Baalke can express to Khan why he needs to be extended and made highest paid HC in history of NFL. Let the ship sink. If the ship sinks, MAYBE... just MAYBE... 10% chance Baalke goes too. MAYBE.
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#4

(10-27-2024, 06:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I've seen enough.  

I know it is players making dumb mistakes and failing to execute assignments that is losing most of these games, but he has to figure out a way to alter that -  these last 16 games or so have been mostly excruciating to watch. 

And for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't like Trevor Lawrence, but this man does not like Trevor Lawrence, LOL

https://x.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

https://twitter.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

Hmmm. Trying to give it a positive spin, is he trying to give praise to guys like Washington and Jones who are depth guys who had to make plans today? Giving them some credit?

But why does he give credit to everyone but Trevor? That whole drive was Trevor throwing.

I wonder if Trevor has been unhappy with some of Press's decisions. Going against Press is enough to make Doug an enemy.

But the main question, I'd love to think Doug could sort this out. He's done great since he came here but this season has been so bad. So many errors and mistakes, the players and coaches look unprepared and struggle to adjust. We have a good roster but we're back to beating ourselves. The FO have to start deciding who's going to replace him and basically compare what they have and who they can get and make the best choice.

But he'd need a lot of changes to his staff and not sure he'd take that so I think Doug goes at the end of the season.
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#5

My observation is Doug nor his coordinators can adapt their scheme to fit the personnel they have. They run their scheme regardless of the players and expect the players to adapt. A square peg will not fit into a round hole and these guys are unable to adapt to that fact.
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#6
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:01 PM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-27-2024, 06:47 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: While he should be fired now, there is no logical choice to replace him with. McCoy is not HC material lets not let him run out 3 wins at the end of season so Baalke can express to Khan why he needs to be extended and made highest paid HC in history of NFL. Let the ship sink. If the ship sinks, MAYBE... just MAYBE... 10% chance Baalke goes too. MAYBE.

Replace Doug with Press Taylor as the interim coach for all I care. 
But seriously, if you really have no idea who the interim coach should be, Monday morning, call Trevor, tell him that Doug is being fired tomorrow, ask Trevor who the interim coach should be.  Let Trevor know in no uncertain terms that that's a one-time question, it's an interim position only.
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#7
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:05 PM by carp8dm. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-27-2024, 06:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I've seen enough.  

I know it is players making dumb mistakes and failing to execute assignments that is losing most of these games, but he has to figure out a way to alter that -  these last 16 games or so have been mostly excruciating to watch. 

And for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't like Trevor Lawrence, but this man does not like Trevor Lawrence, LOL

https://x.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

https://twitter.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

I've been telling you since last year something was wrong...

And you kept attacking me and ignoring reality.  

Yeah, he needs to be fired.  He needed to be fired the moment he decided to not coach the offense any more.  It was obvious since last year.

Edit: If he lost to the patriots, he should have been fired then and there. He won that game. But it's clear he's gonna win nothing untill the bye week. That's when you fire his lazy [BLEEP]. And that's when you start courting the Lion's OC.

I was hanging out with my Step Dad during the game.

There was a moment after the 2nd Lawrence TD that Press Taylor came up to him while Lawrence was celebrating with the players. The moment Press came up to Lawrence, you saw that Trevor completely lost his smile and energy untill Press left, and then he celebrated with his team. It was a half a second, but I saw it.

No players care for Press, or Dougie. They are playing in spite of this trash coaching staff.
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#8

(10-27-2024, 07:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 06:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I've seen enough.  

I know it is players making dumb mistakes and failing to execute assignments that is losing most of these games, but he has to figure out a way to alter that -  these last 16 games or so have been mostly excruciating to watch. 

And for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't like Trevor Lawrence, but this man does not like Trevor Lawrence, LOL

https://x.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

https://twitter.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

I've been telling you since last year something was wrong...

And you kept attacking me and ignoring reality.  

Yeah, he needs to be fired.  He needed to be fired the moment he decided to not coach the offense any more.  It was obvious since last year.

Edit:  If he lost to the patriots, he should have been fired then and there.  He won that game.  But it's clear he's gonna win nothing untill the bye week.  That's when you fire his lazy [BLEEP].  And that's when you start courting the Lion's OC.

Sorry but you were attacking press for most of the year, and you also ignored mitigating factors that weren’t always in Doug’s control (a trash Oline that Baalke gave him for example)
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#9

(10-27-2024, 07:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 06:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I've seen enough.  

I know it is players making dumb mistakes and failing to execute assignments that is losing most of these games, but he has to figure out a way to alter that -  these last 16 games or so have been mostly excruciating to watch. 

And for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't like Trevor Lawrence, but this man does not like Trevor Lawrence, LOL

https://x.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

https://twitter.com/marhsim/status/1850641653637468620

I've been telling you since last year something was wrong...

And you kept attacking me and ignoring reality.  

Yeah, he needs to be fired.  He needed to be fired the moment he decided to not coach the offense any more.  It was obvious since last year.

No. LOL

You wouldn't shut up blathering about Press Taylor and I explained to you about 900 [BLEEP] times that you were pointing at the wrong coach.

YOU finally figured out after about 11 months what I was telling you.  It was Doug and HIS offense you hated so much. You were just too [BLEEP] stupid to figure out you were blathering about the wrong guy. You insisted it was Press's offense, he had changed it from what Doug did and he was the whole problem. 

Glad you finally arrived at a somewhat better understanding, but I hate that it took 6 more losses from my favorite team for you to realize Press is just a pawn of little significance in this.
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#10
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:15 PM by Caldrac.)

Doug's come off like this for years towards QBs. Seems similar to how things went down with Wentz and now Lawrence. Could be the old back-up QB in him maybe demanding or expecting more out of the Franchise guy.

At any rate. Yes. He needs to go. Along with the entirety of his staff and this front office also needs to be fully swept out with fresh blood injected into both aspects of the organization.

Forget about the fact, that, Doug is supposed to be an offensive mastermind, a QB guru, a play caller, etc. The offense has failed, it's failed miserably. It's inconsistent. It's consistently finding ways to derail any progress that's being made with self inflicted wounds, etc.

What REALLY should get him fired? This defense over the last three years. Especially with the amount of cap spending and draft capital spent on that side of the football.

It went from opportunistic with takeaway's in year one with Caldwell, to, abysmal in year two with him being fired. Enter Nielsen and this defense is now completely lost in oblivion and has no answers consistently or seems to fail in adjustments.

I really [BLEEP] hate this coaching staff. I really do. Especially while watching teams like Washington, Chicago, Houston, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Minnesota and Denver figuring it the [BLEEP] out with shorter amount of time, lesser amount of overall experience and within tougher divisions or conferences.

He doesn't have any answers really for anything and it's becoming abundantly clear that he overachieved with the Eagles while getting away with a solid defensive coordinator in Jim Schwartz to make his job a whole hell of a lot easier as an offensive coach.

Doug Pederson is officially the modern era version of Brian Billick. He's a [BLEEP] fraud that got lucky one time. He duped us all and we should have listened more carefully when Philadelphia moved on from him shortly after that one good run.

They clearly don't miss him. As quickly as the Eagles rebounded without him? I think it further speaks volumes that getting your front office together and building that correctly with the right team builder and scouting department is the only way to put your house in order.

Khan needs to call Josh Harris, the new owner of the Commanders, and just straight up hire the team of consultants he used to fix his shiny new toy in one off season.

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#11
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:10 PM by SeldomRite.)

I couldn't care less about Doug being fired. He should be and probably will be, but Baalke has to go first and his replacement needs to be found first.

Time to finally fully flush the damn toilet, already.
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#12
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:14 PM by MoJagFan. Edited 1 time in total.)

The league is mediocre and we are ridiculously close to a winning record. For as bad as this team plays they are on the doorstep of victory most weeks.

End of season, sweep the Leg.

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And the way the GM drafts and the coaches coach it is amazing they have been competitive on the scoreboard while getting whipped on the field.
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#13
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:12 PM by carp8dm.)

(10-27-2024, 07:05 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 07:01 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I've been telling you since last year something was wrong...

And you kept attacking me and ignoring reality.  

Yeah, he needs to be fired.  He needed to be fired the moment he decided to not coach the offense any more.  It was obvious since last year.

Edit:  If he lost to the patriots, he should have been fired then and there.  He won that game.  But it's clear he's gonna win nothing untill the bye week.  That's when you fire his lazy [BLEEP].  And that's when you start courting the Lion's OC.

Sorry but you were attacking press for most of the year, and you also ignored mitigating factors that weren’t always in Doug’s control (a trash Oline that Baalke gave him for example)

It's been the same O-Line from this year to the last year...

Stop.

This is the result of trash coaching.  It always has been.  I was telling everyone here that Doug needed to take over the coaching on offense since last season.  Go back and look.

I was being gentle with my critique.  I kept saying something wasn't right with the offense.  And everyone said it was the O-Line.  This is the SAME O-LINE!!!

I've been right for 2 seasons now.  And so has everyone else that has been criticizing this coaching staff.  This coaching staff has failed our players.  It become more and more obvious over time.

It just makes me mad that I've been saying this since last year, but we need a mod to start the conversation 1 year too late.
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#14

(10-27-2024, 07:10 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 07:05 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Sorry but you were attacking press for most of the year, and you also ignored mitigating factors that weren’t always in Doug’s control (a trash Oline that Baalke gave him for example)

It's been the same O-Line from this year to the last year...

Stop.

This is the result of trash coaching.  It always has been.  I was telling everyone here that Doug needed to take over the coaching on offense since last season.  Go back and look.

I was being gentle with my critique.  I kept saying something wasn't right with the offense.  And everyone said it was the O-Line.  This is the SAME O-LINE!!!

I've been right for 2 seasons now.  And so has everyone else that has been criticizing this coaching staff.  This coaching staff has failed our players.  It become more and more obvious over time.

It just makes me mad that I've been saying this since last year, but we need a mod to start the conversation 1 year too late.

LOL

WRONG again

This year's line has literally replaced the two worst starting positions from last year's line and the whole unit played like crap in all but 3 games so far. Two of those 3 good performances happen to be out only wins. It is NOT a coincidence. 

What a stupid attempt to ignore reality.
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#15

My biggest problem with him is press. However he has more problems than that. Your job is on the line , but you don’t want to use your expertise by calling plays. He doesn’t seem in charge.
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#16

(10-27-2024, 07:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-27-2024, 07:10 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's been the same O-Line from this year to the last year...

Stop.

This is the result of trash coaching.  It always has been.  I was telling everyone here that Doug needed to take over the coaching on offense since last season.  Go back and look.

I was being gentle with my critique.  I kept saying something wasn't right with the offense.  And everyone said it was the O-Line.  This is the SAME O-LINE!!!

I've been right for 2 seasons now.  And so has everyone else that has been criticizing this coaching staff.  This coaching staff has failed our players.  It become more and more obvious over time.

It just makes me mad that I've been saying this since last year, but we need a mod to start the conversation 1 year too late.

LOL

WRONG again

This year's line has literally replaced the two worst starting positions from last year's line and the whole unit played like crap in all but 3 games so far. Two of those 3 good performances happen to be out only wins. It is NOT a coincidence. 

What a stupid attempt to ignore reality.

All I know is that I've been correct about this coaching staff.

And yes, this O-Line is just as good/bad as last years.  

It's not the O-Line that is the problem.  You and your blind friends keep blaming everything except the one obvious thing.
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#17

(10-27-2024, 07:09 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: I couldn't care less about Doug being fired. He should be and probably will be, but Baalke has to go first and his replacement needs to be found first.

Time to finally fully flush the damn toilet, already.

I think we're moving towards a full clear house. If that's the path then GM is #1 priority and that then decides the HC position. Let's have a GM and HC that work together and have ideas that work with each other.

I know the Coughlin experience part 2 didn't end well bit I hope Shad brings someone in to make these decisions for him even if just temporarily. If it's someone like Boselli with a Jags link then fine or a Manning type player who has experience and links in the league. 

The Lions should really be our blueprint. Decades of struggles, bring in the right GM and coaching staff and look at them now.
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#18

Trash Baalke first. Then, Doug. Wipe out the entire coaching staff after the season is done.
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#19
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2024, 07:43 PM by Jag88. Edited 1 time in total.)

I would say one more year to fix it, but he WONT change. Dude is super stubborn.
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#20

(10-27-2024, 07:43 PM)Jagulars Wrote: Trash Baalke first. Then, Doug. Wipe out the entire coaching staff after the season is done.

There are real coaches that can actually fix this team.  We're not that far from being a Super Bowl contender.  The problem is with this coach that has no passion to actually motivate and train the team.  

I've been saying it for 2 years now.
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