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Coaching Firings/ Personnel Changes

#21

Ready for it already. Casino style beatdown, buried alive in a random cornfield. Baalke and Pederson both.
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#22

Fire Baalke now.

Let Doug run out the string.
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#23

Gonna have a hard time attracting any kind of good coach or GM.
Here we go again
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#24

(11-17-2024, 05:44 PM)Preach Wrote: Gonna have a hard time attracting any kind of good coach or GM.

Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.
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#25

(11-17-2024, 05:43 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Ready for it already. Casino style beatdown, buried alive in a random cornfield. Baalke and Pederson both.

Now we are talking.  Telling us this is a historically good roster.  The best we have ever had. Making a fool out of all of us and publicly our owner.  Then put this unorganized undisciplined crap on the field.
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#26

(11-17-2024, 05:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:21 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: What is going to be funny is city and Khan spending so much on stadium renovations only to see season ticket sales tank and the new stadium is half empty.  When you're this bad for so long, you lose an entire generation of Jaguars fans.

I think 2022 showed that the minute a winner is put on the field this fan base shows up for them.

2017 as well. 

The Jaguars home games outsold 9 other NFL teams in home attendance that year and the attendance ramped up week after week as they became clear playoff contenders. 

Last 5 games went: 60K sold - 60K sold - 61K sold - 64K sold - 64K sold

That's really strong for our market, and I was at most of those games. Those numbers weren't a result of opposing fan turnout. The only one that had a decent opposing fan presence was the cincy tilt after the bye week. The rest of these games were very few fans in the wrong colors. (seattle, LAC, colts, tinhorns) 

Winning fixes attendance pretty much instantly.
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#27

(11-17-2024, 05:34 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: I don’t see how this is an attractive landing spot for a HC/GM. This is a dumpster fire that needs a full reset. There’s only a handful of players that are rosterable, there is no pro bowl talent let alone all pro lol. NFL is the “not for long” for a reason, you’re almost guaranteed to have a couple back to back losing seasons with this roster. The owner is an idiot with a 62-144 record. [BLEEP] that, this is a nightmare situation for attractive options. This screams retreads as our only options.

I actually think shad is an attractive option for a gm/coach, they know that they realistically have at least 3 years to make it their own. The problem has been he consistently gets it wrong.
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#28

(11-17-2024, 05:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:44 PM)Preach Wrote: Gonna have a hard time attracting any kind of good coach or GM.

Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.

I agree. 

The main thing working against us in that manner is the sheer number of other teams likely to be carrying out coaching searches.
Looks to be an above the mean number of teams this offseason.
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#29

(11-17-2024, 05:50 PM)Dockerill91 Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:34 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: I don’t see how this is an attractive landing spot for a HC/GM. This is a dumpster fire that needs a full reset. There’s only a handful of players that are rosterable, there is no pro bowl talent let alone all pro lol. NFL is the “not for long” for a reason, you’re almost guaranteed to have a couple back to back losing seasons with this roster. The owner is an idiot with a 62-144 record. [BLEEP] that, this is a nightmare situation for attractive options. This screams retreads as our only options.

I actually think shad is an attractive option for a gm/coach, they know that they realistically have at least 3 years to make it their own. The problem has been he consistently gets it wrong.

Agreed. He just has to remove the one road block and open up alternatives for coaches. Baalkie, many do not want to work with him. Remove him and there are more alternatives.
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#30

This fitty burger should be accompanied with two greyhound tickets home for Doug and Trent…where you at Khan?
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#32

(11-17-2024, 05:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:44 PM)Preach Wrote: Gonna have a hard time attracting any kind of good coach or GM.

Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.

Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.
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#33

(11-17-2024, 06:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.

Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.

Do you think a HC is walking into the Saints/Jets/Raiders/Giants etc and thinking your walking into a competitive team? Most HC's know year 1 is installing your system and ideas and seeing if what you already have fits in that system. It's going to be a learning year.
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#34
(This post was last modified: 11-17-2024, 06:12 PM by Newton.)

Guys, most teams looking for a head coach are not Super Bowl contenders.

(11-17-2024, 06:10 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 06:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.

Do you think a HC is walking into the Saints/Jets/Raiders/Giants etc and thinking your walking into a competitive team? Most HC's know year 1 is installing your system and ideas and seeing if what you already have fits in that system. It's going to be a learning year.
Agree with this point
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#35

(11-17-2024, 06:10 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 06:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.

Do you think a HC is walking into the Saints/Jets/Raiders/Giants etc and thinking your walking into a competitive team? Most HC's know year 1 is installing your system and ideas and seeing if what you already have fits in that system. It's going to be a learning year.

All those situations don’t have a QB, and HCs love the option of going into a draft being able to get their guy. Rodgers has a year or two left, and they have a talented core. Here, you’re stuck with Trevor and we don’t know if that’s everyone’s cup of tea.i personally think you can win with Trevor, but we don’t know how HC options view him. You’re also given a team with zero pro bowl talent or leaders. On top of it, the franchise is cursed by John Oyster.  

The best option will be the Bengals. Inheriting Joe Burrow and Chase is a dream situation.
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#36

(11-17-2024, 06:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.

Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.

Kind of depends on how they solve the GM situation. 

Because there will be capital available. No one should expect a miracle turnaround in 2025 - but it could be a big build year and a competitive even if not over .500 team. 

The new GM will have 58 million in cap space before cuts are made (and cuts will def be made) and will have SIX draft picks prior to the 5th round. 

If a top coach candidate likes TL and sees a GM he feels good about working with - We'll be one of the more attractive spots to land. 

I for one believe Baalke is definitely gone come January. I'm not in the camp that thinks he's somehow conned Khan into keeping him.
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#37

(11-17-2024, 05:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:44 PM)Preach Wrote: Gonna have a hard time attracting any kind of good coach or GM.

Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.

My only concern with Jacksonville is that Big 10 players can't deal with the humidity...

LOL  That is literally my only concern.

Jacksonville is a good place to be an NFL player.  Well, besides the lack a good variety of food, and maybe the young guys would like more of a night life.  But other than that, it's hard to think of another city I'd rather be in.

Edit to say I grew up in the Rocky mountains, and I think Denver is a freaking great city.
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#38

(11-17-2024, 06:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 05:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Salary cap is in good shape, team has a QB, the owner is clearly good to work for, and the team has plenty of draft capital the next few years. I'd think this is an attractive option even before considering the geography of Jacksonville and being in Florida.

Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.

Not even close man, the roster can be fixed in an offseason. In fact, some of the solution (eg guys like Smith, Jarrian, Prince, and Jefferson) are likely already here. This sounds like a broken record at this point, but get a left tackle and right guard who can run block, get another pass rusher, fix the safeties, and draft another top tier CB and replacement center. That's it, that's what needs to be done here. They have well more than enough cap space and draft capital to do all that this spring.
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#39

(11-17-2024, 06:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-17-2024, 06:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Roster is years away from being competitive. The depth is worst in the league. Zero elite talent. Defense starters are [BLEEP]. Offensive line sucks. This is a hard pass if I’m a top HC option. Not starting my career with back to back guaranteed 5-6 win seasons.

Not even close man, the roster can be fixed in an offseason. In fact, some of the solution (eg guys like Smith, Jarrian, Prince, and Jefferson) are likely already here. This sounds like a broken record at this point, but get a left tackle and right guard who can run block, get another pass rusher, fix the safeties, and draft another top tier CB and replacement center. That's it, that's what needs to be done here. They have well more than enough cap space and draft capital to do all that this spring.

Agree.

This is not a "blow it up and rebuild" situation.  I've been saying this for a few weeks.  We're a playoff contending team with the right tweaks and a real HC.
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#40

Now we wait…and hope.
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