People want Kingsbury to be our HC??? This entire fan base has gone mad. Beta males like Kliff don't command the respect of the locker room as HC.

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People want Kingsbury to be our HC??? This entire fan base has gone mad. Beta males like Kliff don't command the respect of the locker room as HC.

Naw, Ben Johnson or Jesse Minter if we go the young coordinator route or Vrabel or BB if we want experience

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Can't wait to see how Minters defense does tonight vs the Ravens

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Khan has to do something. He needs to start with a new GM and then let the GM pick his coach or keep the one he has.. Press is a problem, real or not; the perception is he is that he sucks as an OC. I don’t see how Penderson survives…

I've seen and read enough the last 50 year to know with certainty that the last thing anyone should ever do is manage by fan perception, because fans are ignorant about 90% of what goes into running a football team. It's why they say stupid [BLEEP] like "Kingsberry should be the new coach here."

It’s not just the fans saying it. Baalke went hard to get Coach to fire him, and there are plenty of pundits saying the same thing. And with this record at his season that followed last season’s meltdown , really it’s all of them. The players too, especially the players…

They ALL suck, except BT, that dude is special..

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

I've seen and read enough the last 50 year to know with certainty that the last thing anyone should ever do is manage by fan perception, because fans are ignorant about 90% of what goes into running a football team. It's why they say stupid [BLEEP] like "Kingsberry should be the new coach here."

It’s not just the fans saying it. Baalke went hard to get Coach to fire him, and there are plenty of pundits saying the same thing. And with this record at his season that followed last season’s meltdown , really it’s all of them. The players too, especially the players…

They ALL suck, except BT, that dude is special..

He thinks all the coaches are good and that coaching doesn't matter lol

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Kyle Shanahan after being fired by the 49ers

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It’s not just the fans saying it. Baalke went hard to get Coach to fire him, and there are plenty of pundits saying the same thing. And with this record at his season that followed last season’s meltdown , really it’s all of them. The players too, especially the players…

They ALL suck, except BT, that dude is special..

He thinks all the coaches are good and that coaching doesn't matter lol

I think bad players hurt the record more than bad coaches, and this year should be a case study for you to learn that lesson. These players have been in position to win repeatedly this year and failed to do so. Whether it's a fumble, a drop, and interception, a missed tackle, blown coverage, or repeated penalties, these guys have shown that knack for [BLEEP] up on the field. Yeah, I don't love the coaching...but it's simplistic and lazy to point the finger there. As Tom McManus said last Friday, at some point these are professional players who shouldn't need their coaches to tell them what to do or to motivate them to do it. The players have the final and ultimate responsibility for what happens on the field. You would of known that if you could actually understand what I say on here.

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Kyle Shanahan after being fired by the 49ers

Clearly that guy needs to go, I can't believe he's let the 49rs be such a terrible team this year.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

He thinks all the coaches are good and that coaching doesn't matter lol

I think bad players hurt the record more than bad coaches, and this year should be a case study for you to learn that lesson. These players have been in position to win repeatedly this year and failed to do so. Whether it's a fumble, a drop, and interception, a missed tackle, blown coverage, or repeated penalties, these guys have shown that knack for [BLEEP] up on the field. Yeah, I don't love the coaching...but it's simplistic and lazy to point the finger there. As Tom McManus said last Friday, at some point these are professional players who shouldn't need their coaches to tell them what to do or to motivate them to do it. The players have the final and ultimate responsibility for what happens on the field. You would of known that if you could actually understand what I say on here.

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Kyle Shanahan after being fired by the 49ers

Clearly that guy needs to go, I can't believe he's let the 49rs be such a terrible team this year.

Every team fumbles, drop passes, turns the ball over etc.  but still find a way to win.   It coaching and the players, not one or the other.  Goff threw 5 picks and the Lions won.  Film has been broken down multiple times to show these trash play designs.  Players on D aren't put in the best positions to succeed either.  This coaching staff is trash but I know you don't know the game enough to see it even when it has been broken down.  This is pretty much the same D minus Williams and Jenkins with the addition of Armstead, Darby, and others and are 15 spots lower than last year.  The offensive scheme is stale and horrendous as well and puts players in [BLEEP] positions to succeed.

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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/statu...2270318777

Look at this loser.

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I think bad players hurt the record more than bad coaches, and this year should be a case study for you to learn that lesson. These players have been in position to win repeatedly this year and failed to do so. Whether it's a fumble, a drop, and interception, a missed tackle, blown coverage, or repeated penalties, these guys have shown that knack for [BLEEP] up on the field. Yeah, I don't love the coaching...but it's simplistic and lazy to point the finger there. As Tom McManus said last Friday, at some point these are professional players who shouldn't need their coaches to tell them what to do or to motivate them to do it. The players have the final and ultimate responsibility for what happens on the field. You would of known that if you could actually understand what I say on here.

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Clearly that guy needs to go, I can't believe he's let the 49rs be such a terrible team this year.

Every team fumbles, drop passes, turns the ball over etc.  but still find a way to win.   It coaching and the players, not one or the other.  Goff threw 5 picks and the Lions won.  Film has been broken down multiple times to show these trash play designs.  Players on D aren't put in the best positions to succeed either.  This coaching staff is trash but I know you don't know the game enough to see it even when it has been broken down.  This is pretty much the same D minus Williams and Jenkins with the addition of Armstead, Darby, and others and are 15 spots lower than last year.  The offensive scheme is stale and horrendous as well and puts players in [BLEEP] positions to succeed

And yet, these Bleep positions they've been in have been in position to be 9-2 this season. Had those players not made those mistakes and the team be say... 8-3 today you'd have no issue with the coaching. That's the difference, I know where the fault lies and what must be done to correct it. You think moving deck chairs keeps the Titanic afloat. I also know from discussing this stuff with you for years that it's pointless to continue, you haven't the ability to absorb the lessons and will just keep bleating on even as the next coaching staff fails.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/statu...2270318777

Look at this loser.

Why do I have a feeling that the "in-house changes" were on the defensive side of the ball?

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Every team fumbles, drop passes, turns the ball over etc.  but still find a way to win.   It coaching and the players, not one or the other.  Goff threw 5 picks and the Lions won.  Film has been broken down multiple times to show these trash play designs.  Players on D aren't put in the best positions to succeed either.  This coaching staff is trash but I know you don't know the game enough to see it even when it has been broken down.  This is pretty much the same D minus Williams and Jenkins with the addition of Armstead, Darby, and others and are 15 spots lower than last year.  The offensive scheme is stale and horrendous as well and puts players in [BLEEP] positions to succeed

And yet, these Bleep positions they've been in have been in position to be 9-2 this season. Had those players not made those mistakes and the team be say... 8-3 today you'd have no issue with the coaching. That's the difference, I know where the fault lies and what must be done to correct it. You think moving deck chairs keeps the Titanic afloat. I also know from discussing this stuff with you for years that it's pointless to continue, you haven't the ability to absorb the lessons and will just keep bleating on even as the next coaching staff fails.

No we wouldn't.  We are lucky to have the 2 wins we have.   You are the only person on here not able to realize coaching is a huge problem.  You could get slapped in the face with things and still not see it.

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And yet, these Bleep positions they've been in have been in position to be 9-2 this season. Had those players not made those mistakes and the team be say... 8-3 today you'd have no issue with the coaching. That's the difference, I know where the fault lies and what must be done to correct it. You think moving deck chairs keeps the Titanic afloat. I also know from discussing this stuff with you for years that it's pointless to continue, you haven't the ability to absorb the lessons and will just keep bleating on even as the next coaching staff fails.

No we wouldn't.  We are lucky to have the 2 wins we have.   You are the only person on here not able to realize coaching is a huge problem.  You could get slapped in the face with things and still not see it.

Let's go to week 1. ETN doesn't fumble, the Jags take a 3 score lead. You think they lose?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

And yet, these Bleep positions they've been in have been in position to be 9-2 this season. Had those players not made those mistakes and the team be say... 8-3 today you'd have no issue with the coaching. That's the difference, I know where the fault lies and what must be done to correct it. You think moving deck chairs keeps the Titanic afloat. I also know from discussing this stuff with you for years that it's pointless to continue, you haven't the ability to absorb the lessons and will just keep bleating on even as the next coaching staff fails.

No we wouldn't.  We are lucky to have the 2 wins we have.   You are the only person on here not able to realize coaching is a huge problem.  You could get slapped in the face with things and still not see it.

Let me settle this one for you two:  The problem is the players AND the coaches.  THE END.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

No we wouldn't.  We are lucky to have the 2 wins we have.   You are the only person on here not able to realize coaching is a huge problem.  You could get slapped in the face with things and still not see it.

Let me settle this one for you two:  The problem is the players AND the coaches.  THE END.

Still wrong. The problem is Baalke, and he's likely the one who survives the coming purge.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Let me settle this one for you two:  The problem is the players AND the coaches.  THE END.

Still wrong. The problem is Baalke, and he's likely the one who survives the coming purge.

Baalke = the players.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Accountability is coming, just may not happen as quickly as we want..

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No we wouldn't.  We are lucky to have the 2 wins we have.   You are the only person on here not able to realize coaching is a huge problem.  You could get slapped in the face with things and still not see it.

Let me settle this one for you two:  The problem is the players AND the coaches.  THE END.

Yup, everyone knows it except him. The problem is both

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Still wrong. The problem is Baalke, and he's likely the one who survives the coming purge.

Baalke = the players.

The Snake will use the players as the skin he sheds I'm afraid. I feel it in my bones, Baalke is gonna survive this somehow. It's just got #becausejaguars all over it.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Baalke = the players.

The Snake will use the players as the skin he sheds I'm afraid. I feel it in my bones, Baalke is gonna survive this somehow. It's just got #becausejaguars all over it.

My feeling is that Khan is going to make changes across the board.  Whatever Baalke sold him to result in the "the best team assembled by the Jacksonville Jaguars ever" was utter BS.  It's one thing that Khan is a patient owner, but no one as successful as he is, is going down the exact same path with someone who [BLEEP] to him.  I feel like the terrible record before Trevor was hurt, is actually beneficial for those that want a clean sweep, as that's one less excuse that Baalke could use.  There's no way he watched the Bills game and the Lions game and thought, "We're almost there, let's run it back."

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

The Snake will use the players as the skin he sheds I'm afraid. I feel it in my bones, Baalke is gonna survive this somehow. It's just got #becausejaguars all over it.

My feeling is that Khan is going to make changes across the board.  Whatever Baalke sold him to result in the "the best team assembled by the Jacksonville Jaguars ever" was utter BS.  It's one thing that Khan is a patient owner, but no one as successful as he is, is going down the exact same path with someone who [BLEEP] to him.  I feel like the terrible record before Trevor was hurt, is actually beneficial for those that want a clean sweep, as that's one less excuse that Baalke could use.  There's no way he watched the Bills game and the Lions game and thought, "We're almost there, let's run it back."

Your lips to God's ears.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato