Trevor practicing this week. God knows why. Maybe he likes Doug? Wants to save his [BLEEP]?

What does this even mean? Trevor needs to save his own job before he is worried about saving a one hit wonder of a HC job.

Hahaha you must b a new troll…Or Mac Jones

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What does this even mean? Trevor needs to save his own job before he is worried about saving a one hit wonder of a HC job.

Hahaha you must b a new troll…Or Mac Jones

Can't be Mac Jones; he managed to hit the reply to post button.

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Trevor says surgery not off the table, wants to play rest of season.

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1861824...STsVA&s=19

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If you needed a reason why TLAW should be playing and gain chemistry with BTJ, just turn on Sunday night football and watch the magic of Burrow and Chase.

You only gain chemistry by playing in games.

Burrow's currently playing hurt?

The bungles are so far out of playoff contention that a win or two doesn't really matter?

Zac Taylor is coaching on fumes and likely to be fired any day now?

You think Joey B and Chase don't hang in the offseason and work on this stuff?

Come the crap on already. If Trevor can play, let him play. If there is a risk of doing more harm than good to the potential EXISTING injury, the benefit of 5-7 throws a game serve little to no purpose.

Oh yeah, and just like Duval, they still lost in spite of the chemistry and effort. So yeah, there's your parallel.

I know people keep saying this, but I don't see it.

Their issues are due to owner cheapness and lack of money flow. Also poor GM selections on defense. Plus they the same defensive staff for years.

I just don't see Taylor getting fired.

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If you needed a reason why TLAW should be playing and gain chemistry with BTJ, just turn on Sunday night football and watch the magic of Burrow and Chase.

You only gain chemistry by playing in games.

Burrow's currently playing hurt?

The bungles are so far out of playoff contention that a win or two doesn't really matter?

Zac Taylor is coaching on fumes and likely to be fired any day now?

You think Joey B and Chase don't hang in the offseason and work on this stuff?

Come the crap on already. If Trevor can play, let him play. If there is a risk of doing more harm than good to the potential EXISTING injury, the benefit of 5-7 throws a game serve little to no purpose.

Oh yeah, and just like Duval, they still lost in spite of the chemistry and effort. So yeah, there's your parallel.

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Extremely, and Doug and the majority of his staff along with Trent and the majority of his staff need to be carved right up on out of this building today before Thanksgiving like the turkey's they all are. 

No creativity. No answers. No leadership. No talent. No spine. 

#FullSweep

Every time my phone bings with an update, I get excited, if only for a moment.

Stupid phone.

Link?  I'm not buying it.  Taylor is a offensive coach and the offense isn't the problem.  Anarumo will likely be fired at the end of the season and they will try to fix that defense

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I'm also the opinion that defense is more of a problem than offense but I'm not satisfied with the offense either.
Unorthodox suggestion: why not let Trevor himself call the plays for the rest of the season or at least for some series?
I'm somehow feeling that he may be limited by the offensive playcalling.
He may never be a world beater, no matter the playcaller but did he ever have altered a play on his behalf when needed? Can't think of any instances.
As a 4th year starter he should be at least capable of making his own decisions even if they are not the best. But in my opinion there is a lot of believe in him but not much confidence.

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Burrow's currently playing hurt?

The bungles are so far out of playoff contention that a win or two doesn't really matter?

Zac Taylor is coaching on fumes and likely to be fired any day now?

You think Joey B and Chase don't hang in the offseason and work on this stuff?

Come the crap on already. If Trevor can play, let him play. If there is a risk of doing more harm than good to the potential EXISTING injury, the benefit of 5-7 throws a game serve little to no purpose.

Oh yeah, and just like Duval, they still lost in spite of the chemistry and effort. So yeah, there's your parallel.

I know people keep saying this, but I don't see it.

Their issues are due to owner cheapness and lack of money flow. Also poor GM selections on defense. Plus they the same defensive staff for years.

I just don't see Taylor getting fired.

Same. They gave Marvin Lewis chance after chance

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I'm also the opinion that defense is more of a problem than offense but I'm not satisfied with the offense either.
Unorthodox suggestion: why not let Trevor himself call the plays for the rest of the season or at least for some series?
I'm somehow feeling that he may be limited by the offensive playcalling.
He may never be a world beater, no matter the playcaller but did he ever have altered a play on his behalf when needed? Can't think of any instances.
As a 4th year starter he should be at least capable of making his own decisions even if they are not the best. But in my opinion there is a lot of believe in him but not much confidence.

Actually he called an unsuccessful QB sneak (from too far away) last year that Pederson called him out on in the post-game press conference.  So Trevor does have the ability to check into different plays, assuming nothing has changed this year.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

I'm also the opinion that defense is more of a problem than offense but I'm not satisfied with the offense either.
Unorthodox suggestion: why not let Trevor himself call the plays for the rest of the season or at least for some series?
I'm somehow feeling that he may be limited by the offensive playcalling.
He may never be a world beater, no matter the playcaller but did he ever have altered a play on his behalf when needed? Can't think of any instances.
As a 4th year starter he should be at least capable of making his own decisions even if they are not the best. But in my opinion there is a lot of believe in him but not much confidence.

Actually he called an unsuccessful QB sneak (from too far away) last year that Pederson called him out on in the post-game press conference.  So Trevor does have the ability to check into different plays, assuming nothing has changed this year.

Some plays definitely, but we don't know how many plays he is "allowed" to audible out of or into. Like what about the scripted plays to start halves?

Also for more complicated audibles that aren't QB sneaks, the Oline, RB, TE, and WR have to be on the same page. It is also not clear how many of their audibles/reads are based on pre-snap hand signal or audible cadence versus a live read based how the defense reacts with blitz, leverages, and zone placement. The latter is more complicated with back up linemen and pass catchers.

Also calling plays could be that Trevor has the option to call a play in the huddle prior to getting to the line. That is something we have no clue about. Though given the perceived coach/QB strife, there would probably be rumours/leaks about it if it were present especially if Trevor were overruling Press/Doug.

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Actually he called an unsuccessful QB sneak (from too far away) last year that Pederson called him out on in the post-game press conference.  So Trevor does have the ability to check into different plays, assuming nothing has changed this year.

Some plays definitely, but we don't know how many plays he is "allowed" to audible out of or into. Like what about the scripted plays to start halves?

Also for more complicated audibles that aren't QB sneaks, the Oline, RB, TE, and WR have to be on the same page. It is also not clear how many of their audibles/reads are based on pre-snap hand signal or audible cadence versus a live read based how the defense reacts with blitz, leverages, and zone placement. The latter is more complicated with back up linemen and pass catchers.

Also calling plays could be that Trevor has the option to call a play in the huddle prior to getting to the line. That is something we have no clue about. Though given the perceived coach/QB strife, there would probably be rumours/leaks about it if it were present especially if Trevor were overruling Press/Doug.

The scripted plays have audibles too and even if the QB stays with the called play there's still line checks, blitz read, option routes, and protection calls to make every single play. NFL offenses are far more complex than most people understand because they've never read an actual playbook. Except in very specific play situations the offense almost never calls a play in the huddle and then does nothing else after that. Even called QB sneaks still require the QB to pick left or right at the line based on the defense. People's ignorance, especially the "tape watchers", leads them to believe they understand something they really don't. Tony Romo is a good example of a commentator who talks through what's happening before the play, but if you really listen he still only gets it right about 3 of 4 plays and he was a very good QB himself.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Do you think that coaches are honest?  LOL.  We live in a world where lies of omission are not considered lies, in reality, they are still lies because they are being deceptive...  Just look at what Bill Belichick did.  He never "lied", but he never told the truth, because he constantly didn't provide the entire truth.  Doug, unfortunately isn't as good at the deception, and even reporters here in Jacksonville are smelling his bull dung.  

I'm not really sure what you are trying to prove.  Lawrence is injured?  Yes or No?

Or is it that you believe that Doug is correct that Lawrence just has a sore shoulder?  

Do you think it's wise to start Lawrence for the next 6 games?  

I mean, these are all things that are obvious as long as you focus on what is the most important thing for the franchise...

Again, just my opinion.  But I just can't have faith in anything Doug or Trent says.  

I mean, we'll eventually get the truth.  But I wouldn't trust this current Front Office or Coaching Staff to give us truth.  Would you?

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You do know that players can miss a few games with injuries that don't require surgery or the IR, right? You do know that TLaw is back in the practice field this week, right? You do know that basic, regular occurrences like 3 week injuries aren't some devious and evil scheme perpetrated by the coach who you seem to think is all of lazy, dumb, and evil, right?  

Based on what we know he has a sprain to his left shoulder that doesn't need surgery. Players in the past who have this injury, like Baker Mayfield for instance, have put on the strap and played. Lawrence and the team felt he couldn't go the last few games and now he's exepcted back after some rest and rehab. It's not a [BLEEP] conspiracy.

What would we have without our "Days of our Lives"-esque color being added and filling in the blanks of things we don't actually know?

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You do know that players can miss a few games with injuries that don't require surgery or the IR, right? You do know that TLaw is back in the practice field this week, right? You do know that basic, regular occurrences like 3 week injuries aren't some devious and evil scheme perpetrated by the coach who you seem to think is all of lazy, dumb, and evil, right?  

Based on what we know he has a sprain to his left shoulder that doesn't need surgery. Players in the past who have this injury, like Baker Mayfield for instance, have put on the strap and played. Lawrence and the team felt he couldn't go the last few games and now he's exepcted back after some rest and rehab. It's not a [BLEEP] conspiracy.

What would we have without our "Days of our Lives"-esque color being added and filling in the blanks of things we don't actually know?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If you believe what Doug says, I have beach front property in Callahan County that Doug wants you to buy for cheap!  You'll make millions.

Doug hasn't been transparent or honest for 2 years now...

Quick Edit:  Just to say, this is the Lawrence Thread.  I don't trust the HC or the front office to do what's best for Lawrence.  There are QBs in this league that can't even hold a candle to what Trevor Lawrence does when he's got protection and good WRs, and good play routes/calling.  I'm so sick and tired of having to listen to the national media praise QBs that are so far worse than Lawrence.  We're wasting a generational talent, and it's really depressing at this point.

You do know that coaches aren't permitted to lie about injuries to the press, right? Or do you think he doesn't care and is lying anyway?

No. Doug’s a good dude. Not performing as HC. But that doesn’t make him a bad person.


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Nah if he’s healthy enough to play he plays. Give me a reason to watch the rest of the season.

Besides being a die hard Jaguars fan, there is no reason to watch the rest of the season.  I'll watch the rest of the season because that's what I do.  But I'd rather watch McCorkel or Bethard under center for the rest of this sacrifice to the football brotherhood.  I don't need to see anymore of Trevor Lawrence getting beat up under this pathetic coaching and Front Office.  

What's the point.  We're not going to catch the tin horns.  And we can't get a wild card spot.  So why keep letting our franchise QB continue to get beat up when he's clearly needing another surgery and rehab period?

Completely agree.


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Hahaha you must b a new troll…Or Mac Jones

Can't be Mac Jones; he managed to hit the reply to post button.

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Fix the O-Line!

Good job Jags. Trevor had no business playing

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Prayers for Trevor, but if that was a Tua-like concussion.... man... let's just hope not.

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Prayers for Trevor, but if that was a Tua-like concussion.... man... let's just hope not.

Indeed. Khan's refusal to do what needed to be done may have dramatically shortened or ended Trevor's career.

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Just sit him the rest of the year. Remainder of the season is a waste.

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Scouting well is all that matters.  Draft philosophy is all fluff.

He’s definitely getting [BLEEP] down for the year now. He can get the surgery early. If you’re looking for a silver lining at least we know we will have the number 1 pick now. Here’s to hoping that one of these QBs shows out in pre draft process and we can get a kings ransom.

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He’s definitely getting [BLEEP] down for the year now. He can get the surgery early. If you’re looking for a silver lining at least we know we will have the number 1 pick now. Here’s to hoping that one of these QBs shows out in pre draft process and we can get a kings ransom.

So you diagnosed that he needs surgery?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Yall do realize there is a chance he played his last down, right?

Shoulder surgery is the last thing of concern right now.

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