My list of gets

Chris Godwin - Bucs - WR
Will Hernandez - Cardinals - G
Chavarius Ward - 49ers - CB1 (a real CB1)


Anything else I'm getting out of the draft, coaching and the GM.

The Jags can afford all three of the above players and they all make the team better. I think our starting safeties next season are going to be Savage and Dewey.

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The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

The new coach and general manager will have everything to say about which free agents to target. My current preferences would be:

1. Cornerbacks Charvarious Ward or D.J. Reed: Would be the most expensive free agent, but this is a critical position needing upgrading and I'd prefer drafting DT Mason Graham in round 1.

2. Drew Dalman: Best center by far in free agency and still young.

3. Jose Uche: Would be very affordable and still has potential to be a solid pass rusher.

4. Camryn Bynum: Cisco is gone and Bynum has been a very reliable safety. Can be paired with either Savage, Wingard or Antonio Johnson if he improves significantly.

The draft would then focus on adding a starting offensive guard in round 2 after adding Graham in round 1. After that, just take BAP with priority given to another wide receiver, offensive lineman and pass rusher.

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Jags have 10 FAs in house:

ERFA
Esezi Otomewo
De'Shaan Dixon

RFA
Tim Jones

UFA
Mac Jones
D'Ernest Johnson
Andre Cisco
Caleb Johnson
Jeremiah Ledbetter
Luke Farrell
Cole Van Lanen

I think CVL, Farrell, and Otomewo are the only ones I'd worry about bringing back from these 10. It's time to move on from Tim Jones, Mac, DeJ, and Cisco IMO. The others are JAGs.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I’ll take anything at defensive tackle or secondary.

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My list of gets

Chris Godwin - Bucs - WR
Will Hernandez - Cardinals - G
Chavarius Ward - 49ers - CB1 (a real CB1)


Anything else I'm getting out of the draft, coaching and the GM.

The Jags can afford all three of the above players and they all make the team better.    I think our starting safeties next season are going to be Savage and Dewey.

I don't believe Godwin is getting out of Tampa.  He's a great talent, still young and has everything you want attitude wise and locker room wise.  That and Mike Evans will be 32 next season and probably isn't getting a big offer to stay after 2025.  I'd say the chances they decide not to pay Godwin are less than 1%.

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My list of gets

Chris Godwin - Bucs - WR
Will Hernandez - Cardinals - G
Chavarius Ward - 49ers - CB1 (a real CB1)


Anything else I'm getting out of the draft, coaching and the GM.

The Jags can afford all three of the above players and they all make the team better.    I think our starting safeties next season are going to be Savage and Dewey.

I don't believe Godwin is getting out of Tampa.  He's a great talent, still young and has everything you want attitude wise and locker room wise.  That and Mike Evans will be 32 next season and probably isn't getting a big offer to stay after 2025.  I'd say the chances they decide not to pay Godwin are less than 1%.

I dont know, I think it depends on how they feel about McMillan.  McMillan has really came on as of late. It will be interesting to see how he does down the stretch.

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My list of gets

Chris Godwin - Bucs - WR
Will Hernandez - Cardinals - G
Chavarius Ward - 49ers - CB1 (a real CB1)


Anything else I'm getting out of the draft, coaching and the GM.

The Jags can afford all three of the above players and they all make the team better.    I think our starting safeties next season are going to be Savage and Dewey.

I don't believe Godwin is getting out of Tampa.  He's a great talent, still young and has everything you want attitude wise and locker room wise.  That and Mike Evans will be 32 next season and probably isn't getting a big offer to stay after 2025.  I'd say the chances they decide not to pay Godwin are less than 1%.

Didn't they just give Evans a butt load of $$$?

I'd agree that prior to his injury there was no way Tampa would let Godwin walk...but they've managed without him pretty well...

And if I were Chris I'd test the free agent waters.

He's going to cost the Jags...but we have $$$ to spend.  We need better than Gabe Davis.

Its much higher than 1% imo that they let him test the market.

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The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

I am giving a pretty penny to Trey Smith, RG from Kansas City to replace Brandon Scherff. He's my top priority in free agency.

My second biggest priority is Camryn Bynum, S from Minnesota. He's an upgrade over Cisco, Savage and Johnson. Good tackler. Makes plays on the football. We need him.

Lastly, I want Chase Young on a decent deal. We need a third EDGE rusher. He's been somewhat lost in the shuffle over the past few years, however, he'll be entering his 8th year already and he's still young. He'll be 26 this year. Throw him a decent deal for two years, incentivize the [BLEEP] out of it and let's see if we can get 7+ sacks out of him as a third wheel.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I think they need to go after safety in FA. There aren't many in the draft, and it can be a position that takes a while to learn. Plus compared to importance, good ones can be affordable even on FA contracts.

If Baalke ends up staying for the long term, I feel like the Steeler guard James Daniels who is recovering from an Achilles tear seems like a guy he would try to go after and sign cheaply.

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wish list:

DT Milton Williams
S Justin Reid
CB - Ward, Reed or Davis
RG - Becton

If they sign the DT and the RG, the draft gets a heckuva lot easier to navigate.

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I am giving a pretty penny to Trey Smith, RG from Kansas City to replace Brandon Scherff. He's my top priority in free agency.

My second biggest priority is Camryn Bynum, S from Minnesota. He's an upgrade over Cisco, Savage and Johnson. Good tackler. Makes plays on the football. We need him.

Lastly, I want Chase Young on a decent deal. We need a third EDGE rusher. He's been somewhat lost in the shuffle over the past few years, however, he'll be entering his 8th year already and he's still young. He'll be 26 this year. Throw him a decent deal for two years, incentivize the [BLEEP] out of it and let's see if we can get 7+ sacks out of him as a third wheel.

I would definitely sign Chase Young if he can warp time and space by being drafted in 2020 and have 8 years experience in 2024. That's impressive.

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wish list:

DT Milton Williams
S Justin Reid
CB - Ward, Reed or Davis
RG - Becton

If they sign the DT and the RG, the draft gets a heckuva lot easier to navigate.

If they sign Williams who are they cutting next year?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I am giving a pretty penny to Trey Smith, RG from Kansas City to replace Brandon Scherff. He's my top priority in free agency.

My second biggest priority is Camryn Bynum, S from Minnesota. He's an upgrade over Cisco, Savage and Johnson. Good tackler. Makes plays on the football. We need him.

Lastly, I want Chase Young on a decent deal. We need a third EDGE rusher. He's been somewhat lost in the shuffle over the past few years, however, he'll be entering his 8th year already and he's still young. He'll be 26 this year. Throw him a decent deal for two years, incentivize the [BLEEP] out of it and let's see if we can get 7+ sacks out of him as a third wheel.

I would definitely sign Chase Young if he can warp time and space by being drafted in 2020 and have 8 years experience in 2024. That's impressive.

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wish list:

DT Milton Williams
S Justin Reid
CB - Ward, Reed or Davis
RG - Becton

If they sign the DT and the RG, the draft gets a heckuva lot easier to navigate.

If they sign Williams who are they cutting next year?

Ledbetter is a free agent, Otomewu is expendable, Lacy can compete for a backup role or go to PS, and frankly, Hamilton a'int ever gonna reach that potential we thought he had. 

Take your pick(s)

Armstead, Milton Williams, Maason Smith, Jefferson (if he has a good offseason) would be a good primary rotation IMO.

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I would definitely sign Chase Young if he can warp time and space by being drafted in 2020 and have 8 years experience in 2024. That's impressive.

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If they sign Williams who are they cutting next year?

Ledbetter is a free agent, Otomewu is expendable, Lacy can compete for a backup role or go to PS, and frankly, Hamilton a'int ever gonna reach that potential we thought he had. 

Take your pick(s)

Armstead, Milton Williams, Maason Smith, Jefferson (if he has a good offseason) would be a good primary rotation IMO.

You definitely have Smith, Jefferson, Hamilton and Armstead already on the roster next year and none of them can play End (as we've seen), so that's 4 DT slots already taken. If they draft a guy up top then that's 5 spots. I just don't see enough jobs for another guy even cutting/let walk those 3 you listed. Like the WR room with Gabe Davis, we're going to give up a spot to a guy who probably shouldn't be here simply because we can't afford the cap hit to cut him. Can Williams play End? We still need two of those.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Ledbetter is a free agent, Otomewu is expendable, Lacy can compete for a backup role or go to PS, and frankly, Hamilton a'int ever gonna reach that potential we thought he had. 

Take your pick(s)

Armstead, Milton Williams, Maason Smith, Jefferson (if he has a good offseason) would be a good primary rotation IMO.

You definitely have Smith, Jefferson, Hamilton and Armstead already on the roster next year and none of them can play End (as we've seen), so that's 4 DT slots already taken. If they draft a guy up top then that's 5 spots. I just don't see enough jobs for another guy even cutting/let walk those 3 you listed. Like the WR room with Gabe Davis, we're going to give up a spot to a guy who probably shouldn't be here simply because we can't afford the cap hit to cut him. Can Williams play End? We still need two of those.

Nah - Jags just carried 6 DL and 4 DE much of the year and occasionally deactivated a guy to work numbers at other positions. 

They'll carry 9 if they are in a 4-3 base and at least 8 if they are in a 3-4 base next year. 

And like I said - Hamilton can shove off. He ain't it. Take the dead cap hit if necessary - but it isn't necessary. 
They won't even need to cut him. 

Besides - if Armstead is your fourth DE - no big deal. 
Walker + JHA + whomever they bring in to spell those two are gonna collectively get the lion's share.

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You definitely have Smith, Jefferson, Hamilton and Armstead already on the roster next year and none of them can play End (as we've seen), so that's 4 DT slots already taken. If they draft a guy up top then that's 5 spots. I just don't see enough jobs for another guy even cutting/let walk those 3 you listed. Like the WR room with Gabe Davis, we're going to give up a spot to a guy who probably shouldn't be here simply because we can't afford the cap hit to cut him. Can Williams play End? We still need two of those.

Nah - Jags just carried 6 DL and 4 DE much of the year and occasionally deactivated a guy to work numbers at other positions. 

They'll carry 9 if they are in a 4-3 base and at least 8 if they are in a 3-4 base next year. 

And like I said - Hamilton can shove off. He ain't it. Take the dead cap hit if necessary - but it isn't necessary. 
They won't even need to cut him. 

Besides - if Armstead is your fourth DE - no big deal. 
Walker + JHA + whomever they bring in to spell those two are gonna collectively get the lion's share.

I'm intrigued, how does Hamilton shove off if they don't cut him?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Nah - Jags just carried 6 DL and 4 DE much of the year and occasionally deactivated a guy to work numbers at other positions. 

They'll carry 9 if they are in a 4-3 base and at least 8 if they are in a 3-4 base next year. 

And like I said - Hamilton can shove off. He ain't it. Take the dead cap hit if necessary - but it isn't necessary. 
They won't even need to cut him. 

Besides - if Armstead is your fourth DE - no big deal. 
Walker + JHA + whomever they bring in to spell those two are gonna collectively get the lion's share.

I'm intrigued, how does Hamilton shove off if they don't cut him?

You cut him - or you keep him. Either works. 

Not sure why you think the numbers are that dire. 

There's room on the roster for 5 IDL players - especially when one of them is your emergency back up DE.

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I'm intrigued, how does Hamilton shove off if they don't cut him?

You cut him - or you keep him. Either works. 

Not sure why you think the numbers are that dire. 

There's room on the roster for 5 IDL players - especially when one of them is your emergency back up DE.

Ok, so what I said up there was that I don't think they both draft a DT high and sign your guy Williams in free agency. That would be 6 interior guys and I don't think they carry that many, sorry if that wasn't clear.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You cut him - or you keep him. Either works. 

Not sure why you think the numbers are that dire. 

There's room on the roster for 5 IDL players - especially when one of them is your emergency back up DE.

Ok, so what I said up there was that I don't think they both draft a DT high and sign your guy Williams in free agency. That would be 6 interior guys and I don't think they carry that many, sorry if that wasn't clear.

I totally overlooked "if they draft a guy" in your post

My bad! 


Yeah - a big FA signing at DT would mean not drafting IDL in my scenario. Which I sort of implied when I said "would make the draft easier to navigate" 

Whether they address it in the draft or FA - I just want to see a pocket disruptor added to our IDL room. 
Best way to get our money's worth out of JHA and our draft capital out of Walker IMO.

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I am giving a pretty penny to Trey Smith, RG from Kansas City to replace Brandon Scherff. He's my top priority in free agency.

My second biggest priority is Camryn Bynum, S from Minnesota. He's an upgrade over Cisco, Savage and Johnson. Good tackler. Makes plays on the football. We need him.

Lastly, I want Chase Young on a decent deal. We need a third EDGE rusher. He's been somewhat lost in the shuffle over the past few years, however, he'll be entering his 8th year already and he's still young. He'll be 26 this year. Throw him a decent deal for two years, incentivize the [BLEEP] out of it and let's see if we can get 7+ sacks out of him as a third wheel.

I would definitely sign Chase Young if he can warp time and space by being drafted in 2020 and have 8 years experience in 2024. That's impressive.

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wish list:

DT Milton Williams
S Justin Reid
CB - Ward, Reed or Davis
RG - Becton

If they sign the DT and the RG, the draft gets a heckuva lot easier to navigate.

If they sign Williams who are they cutting next year?

My bad. I see what I did wrong now. Was looking at Pro Football Reference. Forgot he got bounced around twice in 2023. They had some extra rows for the time spent in WAS and SF.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I would definitely sign Chase Young if he can warp time and space by being drafted in 2020 and have 8 years experience in 2024. That's impressive.

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If they sign Williams who are they cutting next year?

My bad. I see what I did wrong now. Was looking at Pro Football Reference. Forgot he got bounced around twice in 2023. They had some extra rows for the time spent in WAS and SF.

I honestly thought you just hit 8 instead of 5 on the 10 key.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato