The cost per tonne for Canal access has increase something like 50% over the last 4 years. It's one of the drivers of inflation within the supply chain and one thing we can pressure to lower costs overall. You have seen enough of Trump that you should understand what all his talk is about by now.

And what should I understand his talk is all about?

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The cost per tonne for Canal access has increase something like 50% over the last 4 years. It's one of the drivers of inflation within the supply chain and one thing we can pressure to lower costs overall. You have seen enough of Trump that you should understand what all his talk is about by now.

And what should I understand his talk is all about?

 
Making deals to push costs down and improve our position as a nation to his own personal benefit. A rising Trump lifts America's boats.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

And what should I understand his talk is all about?

 
Making deals to push costs down and improve our position as a nation to his own personal benefit. A rising Trump lifts America's boats.

Are you suggesting that American trade should get some sort of favorable treatment at the canal? 
If no, simply lowering the fee that every country pays at the canal will benefit all nations except for Panama. It won't benefit the US specifically.
If yes, how will you expect the Panamanians  to determine which ships are American and which are not?

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And what should I understand his talk is all about?

 
Making deals to push costs down and improve our position as a nation to his own personal benefit. A rising Trump lifts America's boats.

So this is not about invading Panama and taking back the canal?

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Making deals to push costs down and improve our position as a nation to his own personal benefit. A rising Trump lifts America's boats.

Are you suggesting that American trade should get some sort of favorable treatment at the canal? 
If no, simply lowering the fee that every country pays at the canal will benefit all nations except for Panama. It won't benefit the US specifically.
If yes, how will you expect the Panamanians  to determine which ships are American and which are not?

Are you suggesting that the US shouldn't get favorable treatment?

Why do you think it can't be done?

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Making deals to push costs down and improve our position as a nation to his own personal benefit. A rising Trump lifts America's boats.

So this is not about invading Panama and taking back the canal?

My friend, you aren't dumb enough to believe that.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Are you suggesting that American trade should get some sort of favorable treatment at the canal? 
If no, simply lowering the fee that every country pays at the canal will benefit all nations except for Panama. It won't benefit the US specifically.
If yes, how will you expect the Panamanians  to determine which ships are American and which are not?

Are you suggesting that the US shouldn't get favorable treatment?

Why do you think it can't be done?

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So this is not about invading Panama and taking back the canal?

My friend, you aren't dumb enough to believe that.

So his threats are hollow?  Is that what you're saying?  Why wouldn't the Panamanians know that, too?  What's the point of empty threats if no one believes them?

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Are you suggesting that the US shouldn't get favorable treatment?

Why do you think it can't be done?

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My friend, you aren't dumb enough to believe that.

So his threats are hollow?  Is that what you're saying?  Why wouldn't the Panamanians know that, too?  What's the point of empty threats if no one believes them?

He said nothing about "invading" Panama. Again, why do all you NT'rs always resort to violence when the man clearly loves the art of dealing? I just don't get that.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Are you suggesting that American trade should get some sort of favorable treatment at the canal? 
If no, simply lowering the fee that every country pays at the canal will benefit all nations except for Panama. It won't benefit the US specifically.
If yes, how will you expect the Panamanians  to determine which ships are American and which are not?

Are you suggesting that the US shouldn't get favorable treatment?

Why do you think it can't be done?

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So this is not about invading Panama and taking back the canal?

My friend, you aren't dumb enough to believe that.

I'm suggesting that it's not always clear what a cargo ship's final destination is, different containers may be coming and going to different places. And the ship's flag usually has no connection to where the ship is going or where it's been. I'm suggesting this is more complicated than you think.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Are you suggesting that the US shouldn't get favorable treatment?

Why do you think it can't be done?

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My friend, you aren't dumb enough to believe that.

I'm suggesting that it's not always clear what a cargo ship's final destination is, different containers may be coming and going to different places. And the ship's flag usually has no connection to where the ship is going or where it's been. I'm suggesting this is more complicated than you think.

No it’s not complicated at all.  You being a contrarian makes it complicated.  American ships registered in America pay “X”. American ships registered in a different country pay “X times 3”

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

I'm suggesting that it's not always clear what a cargo ship's final destination is, different containers may be coming and going to different places. And the ship's flag usually has no connection to where the ship is going or where it's been. I'm suggesting this is more complicated than you think.

No it’s not complicated at all.  You being a contrarian makes it complicated.  American ships registered in America pay “X”. American ships registered in a different country pay “X times 3”

Less than 1% of cargo ships in the world are US flagged.
Almost all of our overseas imports and exports are carried on foreign flagged ships.
Are you trying to incentivize more US flag ships to get built? What are you trying to do?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

No it’s not complicated at all.  You being a contrarian makes it complicated.  American ships registered in America pay “X”. American ships registered in a different country pay “X times 3”

Less than 1% of cargo ships in the world are US flagged.
Almost all of our overseas imports and exports are carried on foreign flagged ships.
Are you trying to incentivize more US flag ships to get built? What are you trying to do?

You are correct about this. It is supposedly because of the higher standards imposed upon US flagged ships. This makes them less competitive.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

No it’s not complicated at all.  You being a contrarian makes it complicated.  American ships registered in America pay “X”. American ships registered in a different country pay “X times 3”

Less than 1% of cargo ships in the world are US flagged.
Almost all of our overseas imports and exports are carried on foreign flagged ships.
Are you trying to incentivize more US flag ships to get built? What are you trying to do?

That is exactly what I am suggesting.  If Sealift wants to avoid American regulations then they do not get the benefit of the lower rate to pass through the Panama Canal.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Less than 1% of cargo ships in the world are US flagged.
Almost all of our overseas imports and exports are carried on foreign flagged ships.
Are you trying to incentivize more US flag ships to get built? What are you trying to do?

That is exactly what I am suggesting.  If Sealift wants to avoid American regulations then they do not get the benefit of the lower rate to pass through the Panama Canal.

Ok but that doesn't necessarily lead to lower prices for American consumers, I don't think.  I don't see the point.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

That is exactly what I am suggesting.  If Sealift wants to avoid American regulations then they do not get the benefit of the lower rate to pass through the Panama Canal.

Ok but that doesn't necessarily lead to lower prices for American consumers, I don't think.  I don't see the point.

So you don't see that reducing the costs of the supply chain creates improved conditions for both producers and customers?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Ok but that doesn't necessarily lead to lower prices for American consumers, I don't think.  I don't see the point.

So you don't see that reducing the costs of the supply chain creates improved conditions for both producers and customers?

No, because so few ships would qualify for the lower prices.  If ships want to switch their flag, that would increase their costs in another area.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

So you don't see that reducing the costs of the supply chain creates improved conditions for both producers and customers?

No, because so few ships would qualify for the lower prices.  If ships want to switch their flag, that would increase their costs in another area.

Ok, so we fundamentally disagree on Econ 101. Makes sense why your takes are always so bad.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

No, because so few ships would qualify for the lower prices.  If ships want to switch their flag, that would increase their costs in another area.

Ok, so we fundamentally disagree on Econ 101. Makes sense why your takes are always so bad.

Question: why are there few US flagged vessels today?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Ok, so we fundamentally disagree on Econ 101. Makes sense why your takes are always so bad.

Question: why are there few US flagged vessels

Here you go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Question: why are there few US flagged vessels

Here you go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience

Don't forget the Jones act. So a ship traveling between the East Coast of the US and west coast would fall under this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_M...ct_of_1920

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Here you go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience

Don't forget the Jones act. So a ship traveling between the East Coast of the US and west coast would fall under this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_M...ct_of_1920

Is it more expensive to own and operate a US flagged vessel, or less expensive?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.