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#41

Plane still in Indy so Shad hasn’t had a chance to officially fire them.

So funny.
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#42

Who is Ugly Rickey?
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#43

(01-05-2025, 11:21 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Plane still in Indy so Shad hasn’t had a chance to officially fire them.

So funny.

Sounds like Shad is being given a sign.
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#44
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2025, 12:55 AM by Eric1. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-05-2025, 11:21 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Plane still in Indy so Shad hasn’t had a chance to officially fire them.

So funny.

From Anton Harrison's live
https://twitter.com/jagstoday/status/187...1802392798
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#45

Doug can’t even make the right decision to deboard the plane and go get some rest at a hotel for the night.
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#46

(01-06-2025, 12:56 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Doug can’t even make the right decision to deboard the plane and go get some rest at a hotel for the night.

Why would that decision be up to him, especially if he was already fired.
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#47

(01-06-2025, 12:56 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Doug can’t even make the right decision to deboard the plane and go get some rest at a hotel for the night.

In the thread of the post, dude said Anton said on stream that a hotel wasn't an option and they might be sleeping on the plane tonight lol.
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#48

(01-05-2025, 06:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-05-2025, 06:50 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Henry was drafted with the 45th pick.

Jeanty is a good back, but if they spend the #5 overall pick on a RB it will be a huge mistake and a waste.
At pick 5, Graham, Will Johnson or Hunter will be there.

Or TMac from Arizona.

Jeanty is awesome but not at pick 5.

I am taking McMillan with Hunter off the board. I like Will Johnson. Just not enough to forego the possibility of drafting the next Mike Evans to pair with Brian Thomas Jr. for at least the next four years. I'll figure out the secondary and the interior of the offensive line later on. Just give me McMillan.
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#49

(01-06-2025, 08:19 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(01-05-2025, 06:53 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: At pick 5, Graham, Will Johnson or Hunter will be there.

Or TMac from Arizona.

Jeanty is awesome but not at pick 5.

I am taking McMillan with Hunter off the board. I like Will Johnson. Just not enough to forego the possibility of drafting the next Mike Evans to pair with Brian Thomas Jr. for at least the next four years. I'll figure out the secondary and the interior of the offensive line later on. Just give me McMillan.
Do we really want to draft another WR in round 1? Our trenches are where we need to make our money.. now if this guy is the next Tee Higgins to complement BTj maybe consider it, but I know nothing about the guy. On the other hand if Mason Graham is the next Dominant DT that can change our DLine and pass rush I would take a dominant DT over another flash WR. Granted I really haven’t followed Graham either so I don’t know who is better or what their ceilings are and this is all assuming there is no O Lineman worth drafting in the top 5-10. Especially interior o line because that’s where we need to upgrade. But I’m not seeing any interior OLineman projected to be very high at all.
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#50

We absolutely do not need another receiver. Interior Dline, Oline, or Secondary please.
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#51
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2025, 09:03 AM by Caldrac. Edited 1 time in total.)

You guys are not listening. Just because you take a WR in RD1 doesn't mean you let everything else fall to the wayside. That is correct though. You're not going to take an interior offensive lineman in this year's top five.

We have ten selections in this draft. We have investments made via the draft and free agency from last year that already fit some of these needs you're all looking for answers at. Here's how I look at McMillan and Graham.

McMillan has hands, has big play ability, can stretch the field, has open field strength and has an AJ Green and Mike Evans look to him.

Graham is a space eater, doesn't really have the production in my opinion on the stat sheet that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about him. It's not like he's Suh, Donald or McCoy coming out of college. That's my concern with him.
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#52

(01-06-2025, 09:00 AM)Caldrac Wrote: You guys are not listening. Just because you take a WR in RD1 doesn't mean you let everything else fall to the wayside. That is correct though. You're not going to take an interior offensive lineman in this year's top five.

We have ten selections in this draft. We have investments made via the draft and free agency from last year that already fit some of these needs you're all looking for answers at. Here's how I look at McMillan and Graham.

McMillan has hands, has big play ability, can stretch the field, has open field strength and has an AJ Green and Mike Evans look to him.

Graham is a space eater, doesn't really have the production in my opinion on the stat sheet that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about him. It's not like his Suh, Donald or McCoy coming out of college. That's my concern with him.

If Tmac runs a mid 4.5 to low 4.6 I’m not out on him as a top 5 pick. 

Abdul Carter is probably the best pick, he’s a Micah Parsons clone. Problem is obviously we have DE filled up with Walker, Armstead, and JHA.
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#53

(01-06-2025, 09:06 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(01-06-2025, 09:00 AM)Caldrac Wrote: You guys are not listening. Just because you take a WR in RD1 doesn't mean you let everything else fall to the wayside. That is correct though. You're not going to take an interior offensive lineman in this year's top five.

We have ten selections in this draft. We have investments made via the draft and free agency from last year that already fit some of these needs you're all looking for answers at. Here's how I look at McMillan and Graham.

McMillan has hands, has big play ability, can stretch the field, has open field strength and has an AJ Green and Mike Evans look to him.

Graham is a space eater, doesn't really have the production in my opinion on the stat sheet that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about him. It's not like his Suh, Donald or McCoy coming out of college. That's my concern with him.

If Tmac runs a mid 4.5 to low 4.6 I’m not out on him as a top 5 pick. 

Abdul Carter is probably the best pick, he’s a Micah Parsons clone. Problem is obviously we have DE filled up with Walker, Armstead, and JHA.

I like Abdul Carter. I think DE/EDGE is more important than DT at the moment. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they selected him. I just think you have to heavily consider McMillan there. He'll run a 4.5 in my opinion. 

It's the tape and highlights that you need to look at. It's also the fact that we need somebody to obviously take advantage of the fact that Thomas Jr. is clearly our WR1 and he's going to be getting a ton of attention in year two.

Need to get ahead of it early. We're not bringing Kirk back. We may lose Engram as well. This is due to cap numbers. This leaves you with just BTJ, Washington and Davis. I think WR is a bigger need than people realize.
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#54
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2025, 09:23 AM by TTechJag85. Edited 3 times in total.)

(01-06-2025, 09:06 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:
(01-06-2025, 09:00 AM)Caldrac Wrote: You guys are not listening. Just because you take a WR in RD1 doesn't mean you let everything else fall to the wayside. That is correct though. You're not going to take an interior offensive lineman in this year's top five.

We have ten selections in this draft. We have investments made via the draft and free agency from last year that already fit some of these needs you're all looking for answers at. Here's how I look at McMillan and Graham.

McMillan has hands, has big play ability, can stretch the field, has open field strength and has an AJ Green and Mike Evans look to him.

Graham is a space eater, doesn't really have the production in my opinion on the stat sheet that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about him. It's not like his Suh, Donald or McCoy coming out of college. That's my concern with him.

If Tmac runs a mid 4.5 to low 4.6 I’m not out on him as a top 5 pick. 

Abdul Carter is probably the best pick, he’s a Micah Parsons clone. Problem is obviously we have DE filled up with Walker, Armstead, and JHA.

If Abdul carter ends up being evaluated that high .. is it worth taking him and potentially moving Travon to a more starting 3 tech and rotational DE role ?

Not sure Travon will be up for that though, especially since he is in contract year and will be sacrificing a lot of money for that type of change.

Not to mention I’m hoping our next head coach has the sense to correctly place Armstead inside at 3 tech as well.
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#55
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2025, 10:26 AM by Mikey.)

(01-05-2025, 06:02 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: I told you all win or lose today no one is getting fired.

not the first time you've been wrong.

(01-05-2025, 06:42 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: head coach already fired in nfl.  The patriots fired mayo even though his team won today vs bills.   yet both Doug,and Balke are safe from getting fired.

They're going after Vrabel, but what a bad look to can a former player turned coach after one season when you give him [points in direction of NE roster] that to work with.

@Also, Rooney rule means they will have to call Mayo in for a quick re-interview before making it official@
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#56

(01-06-2025, 09:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(01-06-2025, 09:06 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: If Tmac runs a mid 4.5 to low 4.6 I’m not out on him as a top 5 pick. 

Abdul Carter is probably the best pick, he’s a Micah Parsons clone. Problem is obviously we have DE filled up with Walker, Armstead, and JHA.

I like Abdul Carter. I think DE/EDGE is more important than DT at the moment. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they selected him. I just think you have to heavily consider McMillan there. He'll run a 4.5 in my opinion. 

It's the tape and highlights that you need to look at. It's also the fact that we need somebody to obviously take advantage of the fact that Thomas Jr. is clearly our WR1 and he's going to be getting a ton of attention in year two.

Need to get ahead of it early. We're not bringing Kirk back. We may lose Engram as well. This is due to cap numbers. This leaves you with just BTJ, Washington and Davis. I think WR is a bigger need than people realize.

Both Kirk and Engram will be here next year. The cap is not a concern for 2025, they'll have right at $50 million of space if they cut ETN who saves the same amount as Engram without the large dead money hit and is far easier to replace. You don't cut Kirk at a cost of $13 when the savings is only $10. He's still a player and valuable as a starter-level player for that cost. At least if you're not Baalke you don't. Having guys with large cap hits who aren't playing for you is the death knell of cap management, you don't have $30 in cap taken up by 2 guys playing on another team even if it means you pay them $45 to be here If they can still produce.
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#57

(01-06-2025, 10:24 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(01-05-2025, 06:02 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: I told you all win or lose today no one is getting fired.

not the first time you've been wrong.

(01-05-2025, 06:42 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: head coach already fired in nfl.  The patriots fired mayo even though his team won today vs bills.   yet both Doug,and Balke are safe from getting fired.

They're going after Vrabel, but what a bad look to can a former player turned coach after one season when you give him [points in direction of NE roster] that to work with.

@Also, Rooney rule means they will have to call Mayo in for a quick re-interview before making it official@

well i was half right.   fired doug but kept  balke.




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note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

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#58

(01-06-2025, 11:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-06-2025, 09:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I like Abdul Carter. I think DE/EDGE is more important than DT at the moment. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they selected him. I just think you have to heavily consider McMillan there. He'll run a 4.5 in my opinion. 

It's the tape and highlights that you need to look at. It's also the fact that we need somebody to obviously take advantage of the fact that Thomas Jr. is clearly our WR1 and he's going to be getting a ton of attention in year two.

Need to get ahead of it early. We're not bringing Kirk back. We may lose Engram as well. This is due to cap numbers. This leaves you with just BTJ, Washington and Davis. I think WR is a bigger need than people realize.

Both Kirk and Engram will be here next year. The cap is not a concern for 2025, they'll have right at $50 million of space if they cut ETN who saves the same amount as Engram without the large dead money hit and is far easier to replace. You don't cut Kirk at a cost of $13 when the savings is only $10. He's still a player and valuable as a starter-level player for that cost. At least if you're not Baalke you don't. Having guys with large cap hits who aren't playing for you is the death knell of cap management, you don't have $30 in cap taken up by 2 guys playing on another team even if it means you pay them $45 to be here If they can still produce.

Kirk was on the trade block. Rumored for the Steelers. I don't think he's here. He's possibly traded for next to nothing.
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#59

(01-06-2025, 11:23 AM)Caldrac Wrote:
(01-06-2025, 11:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Both Kirk and Engram will be here next year. The cap is not a concern for 2025, they'll have right at $50 million of space if they cut ETN who saves the same amount as Engram without the large dead money hit and is far easier to replace. You don't cut Kirk at a cost of $13 when the savings is only $10. He's still a player and valuable as a starter-level player for that cost. At least if you're not Baalke you don't. Having guys with large cap hits who aren't playing for you is the death knell of cap management, you don't have $30 in cap taken up by 2 guys playing on another team even if it means you pay them $45 to be here If they can still produce.

Kirk was on the trade block. Rumored for the Steelers. I don't think he's here. He's possibly traded for next to nothing.

Kirk, along with a half dozen other receivers, was in the scuttlebutt about a trade. "League sources said..." is the best you're going to get on that one and that's got a cheesecloth's integrity. Trading him still costs $13 million in dead money, he's a player worth the contract as Lawrence's blankie.
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#60

(01-06-2025, 11:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-06-2025, 09:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I like Abdul Carter. I think DE/EDGE is more important than DT at the moment. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they selected him. I just think you have to heavily consider McMillan there. He'll run a 4.5 in my opinion. 

It's the tape and highlights that you need to look at. It's also the fact that we need somebody to obviously take advantage of the fact that Thomas Jr. is clearly our WR1 and he's going to be getting a ton of attention in year two.

Need to get ahead of it early. We're not bringing Kirk back. We may lose Engram as well. This is due to cap numbers. This leaves you with just BTJ, Washington and Davis. I think WR is a bigger need than people realize.

Both Kirk and Engram will be here next year. The cap is not a concern for 2025, they'll have right at $50 million of space if they cut ETN who saves the same amount as Engram without the large dead money hit and is far easier to replace. You don't cut Kirk at a cost of $13 when the savings is only $10. He's still a player and valuable as a starter-level player for that cost. At least if you're not Baalke you don't. Having guys with large cap hits who aren't playing for you is the death knell of cap management, you don't have $30 in cap taken up by 2 guys playing on another team even if it means you pay them $45 to be here If they can still produce.

The fifth-year option is guaranteed.  We save nothing by cutting ETN.
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