Drew Allar's late game decision making is perfect for the Jags.

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Drew Allar's late game decision making is perfect for the Jags.

He's overrated. Would rather wait until day 3 and take Jaxson Dart out of Ole' Miss if the front office is dead set on drafting a quality QB to back him up and develop. That kid is tough. Makes a lot of good plays with his legs and he's a good thrower on the run outside of the pocket. A bit of a poor man's Bo Nix quality to him coming out of the SEC.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Big Board By Round:

RD1: Travis Hunter, Tetairoa McMillan, Will Johnson, Abdul Carter
RD2: Tate Ratledge, Mike Green, Jonah Saviinaea, Xavier Restrepo
RD3: Kevin Winston Jr., Denzel Burke, Xavier Watts, Cameron Skattebo
RD4: Grey Zabel, Jared Ivey, Charles Grant, Jake Majors
RD5: Jack Nelson, Rylie Mills, Connor Colby, Jordan Marshall Jr.
RD6: Sai'Vion Jones, Clay Webb, Hunter Wohler, Antwane Wells Jr.
RD7: Bryson Nesbit, Will Sheppard, Kyle Monangai, Chase Lundt

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Abdul Carter is playing with one good shoulder tonight and is still constantly putting pressure on Notre Dame's quarterback. If he is still on the board at pick 5, the Jaguars would have to seriously consider taking him. Teams can never have too many great pass rushers and this would enable Walker to play more on the inside.

This is his first year ever playing DE as well. If he's there at #5, take him and don't look back. Sky is the limit for that kid. Work him in as a DPR his rookie season and go from there.

We don't have anything behind Walker and JHA at that position and he'd instantly make that room better as a very talented #3 behind them.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/187...0210755811

Nielsen is salivating at the idea of rotating his OLB/DEs

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I think I still have Johnson at the top of my board if hes 100% by the combine and test like i think he will. I definitely woulldnt be against Carter though. Im starting to think NE takes Carter as 2 QBs and Hunter go in the top 3 while NE getting Carter. Edge is a huge need for NE and I think Carter would be a much better value than any WR after Hunter. Id love Graham as well but if Baalke is the one making the pick he might be off the table.

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So far, would be happy with these players being targeted round-by-round.

RD1: Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks Jr., Travis Hunter, Mason Graham, Will Johnson & Tetairoa McMillan.
RD2: Tate Ratledge, Kyle Kennard, Nick Emmanwori, Rod Moore, Aireontae Ersey & Tre Harris. 
RD3: Jonah Monheim, Xavier Restrepo, Xavier Watts, Cameron Williams & Dontay Corleone. 
RD4: Jack Nelson, Keon Sabb, Andrew Mukuba, Josaiah Stewart, Josh Conerly Jr. & Jake Majors. 
RD5: Marvin Jones Jr., Thor Griffith, Jake Slaughter, Cobee Bryant, Alfred Collins & Armaj Reed-Adams.
RD6: Oronde Gadsen II, Dane Key, Shilo Sanders, Clay Webb, Connor Colby & R.J Harvey. 
RD7: Tahj Brooks, Earnest Greene III, Hunter Wohler, Miles Frazier, Jack Kiser & Trey Zuhn III.

I have some doubts about Graham this high. Think he will be a good player but not sure he is the game-changing type of DT you'd want with a 5th overall pick.

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Drew Allar's late game decision making is perfect for the Jags.

He's overrated. Would rather wait until day 3 and take Jaxson Dart out of Ole' Miss if the front office is dead set on drafting a quality QB to back him up and develop. That kid is tough. Makes a lot of good plays with his legs and he's a good thrower on the run outside of the pocket. A bit of a poor man's Bo Nix quality to him coming out of the SEC.

I'd be surprised if Dart fell to day 3.

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I think I still have Johnson at the top of my board if hes 100% by the combine and test like i think he will.  I definitely woulldnt be against Carter though.  Im starting to think NE takes Carter as 2 QBs and Hunter go in the top 3 while NE getting Carter.  Edge is a huge need for NE and I think Carter would be a much better value than any WR after Hunter.  Id love Graham as well but if Baalke is the one making the pick he might be off the table.

Carter is a beast. Would be great if the Jags could get him at 5.

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So far, would be happy with these players being targeted round-by-round.

RD1: Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks Jr., Travis Hunter, Mason Graham, Will Johnson & Tetairoa McMillan.
RD2: Tate Ratledge, Kyle Kennard, Nick Emmanwori, Rod Moore, Aireontae Ersey & Tre Harris. 
RD3: Jonah Monheim, Xavier Restrepo, Xavier Watts, Cameron Williams & Dontay Corleone. 
RD4: Jack Nelson, Keon Sabb, Andrew Mukuba, Josaiah Stewart, Josh Conerly Jr. & Jake Majors. 
RD5: Marvin Jones Jr., Thor Griffith, Jake Slaughter, Cobee Bryant, Alfred Collins & Armaj Reed-Adams.
RD6: Oronde Gadsen II, Dane Key, Shilo Sanders, Clay Webb, Connor Colby & R.J Harvey. 
RD7: Tahj Brooks, Earnest Greene III, Hunter Wohler, Miles Frazier, Jack Kiser & Trey Zuhn III.

I have some doubts about Graham this high. Think he will be a good player but not sure he is the game-changing type of DT you'd want with a 5th overall pick.

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He's overrated. Would rather wait until day 3 and take Jaxson Dart out of Ole' Miss if the front office is dead set on drafting a quality QB to back him up and develop. That kid is tough. Makes a lot of good plays with his legs and he's a good thrower on the run outside of the pocket. A bit of a poor man's Bo Nix quality to him coming out of the SEC.

I'd be surprised if Dart fell to day 3.

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I think I still have Johnson at the top of my board if hes 100% by the combine and test like i think he will.  I definitely woulldnt be against Carter though.  Im starting to think NE takes Carter as 2 QBs and Hunter go in the top 3 while NE getting Carter.  Edge is a huge need for NE and I think Carter would be a much better value than any WR after Hunter.  Id love Graham as well but if Baalke is the one making the pick he might be off the table.

Carter is a beast. Would be great if the Jags could get him at 5.

Agreed on Graham. My stance has changed on him over the past few months. As has my hopes for each round. With Graham, the production just isn't there for me. I can't justify taking a guy there if he's not bringing that same aura or production with him from college like we saw out of guys like Donald, Suh and McCoy over the years. 

I don't need a space eater on this front four. I need a guy that demands double teams, whips them and disrupts the pocket and reroutes the running back in the backfield. I don't see that in Graham's game. I can get Mills coming off a knee injury on day three I bet out of Notre Dame that does have that element to his game and reminds me a bit of Denver's Allen inside as a pass rusher.

Dart will probably be a day 2 pick now. I was basing a lot of that on other QB's coming into the draft a little bit ahead of him. Now that Beck is in the portal and eyeing Miami, along with Ewers potentially looking to take a rumored $6M NIL deal to transfer for his last year of eligibility, along with Allar potentially staying now, as comments were made last night about this being a possibility mid game.

Dart easily goes up now on most draft boards. I really like that kid. He has a bit of Bo Nix / Baker Mayfield swagger to him. A good QB coach at the next level and a fun play caller could probably get a lot out of him in about a year or two. He does need to work on his pocket awareness though and he's going to need a tighter chin strap if he's going to continue to run headfirst and take hits. Grit though. He's got it. I love that about him. 

Carter is impressive. I know he played through a shoulder injury last night, but, he has the makings of being a Micha Parsons type for sure if he falls on the right team. We have a ton of needs right now on this team. Landing a viable EDGE threat that can actually rotate in with Hines-Allen and Walker and impact the game would be monumental for this team in 2025. Especially in a very winnable division with questionable QB play across the board already with our six match up's.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

So far, would be happy with these players being targeted round-by-round.

RD1: Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks Jr., Travis Hunter, Mason Graham, Will Johnson & Tetairoa McMillan.
RD2: Tate Ratledge, Kyle Kennard, Nick Emmanwori, Rod Moore, Aireontae Ersey & Tre Harris. 
RD3: Jonah Monheim, Xavier Restrepo, Xavier Watts, Cameron Williams & Dontay Corleone. 
RD4: Jack Nelson, Keon Sabb, Andrew Mukuba, Josaiah Stewart, Josh Conerly Jr. & Jake Majors. 
RD5: Marvin Jones Jr., Thor Griffith, Jake Slaughter, Cobee Bryant, Alfred Collins & Armaj Reed-Adams.
RD6: Oronde Gadsen II, Dane Key, Shilo Sanders, Clay Webb, Connor Colby & R.J Harvey. 
RD7: Tahj Brooks, Earnest Greene III, Hunter Wohler, Miles Frazier, Jack Kiser & Trey Zuhn III.

I have some doubts about Graham this high. Think he will be a good player but not sure he is the game-changing type of DT you'd want with a 5th overall pick.

I keep getting the Alualu feeling with Graham. I think he'll be a good player and have a lengthy career, but I don't ever see him living up to where he was/is drafted at if he goes in the top 10, much like Alualu.

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I'd take JT or Sawyer in the 2nd out of Ohio St.

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I have some doubts about Graham this high. Think he will be a good player but not sure he is the game-changing type of DT you'd want with a 5th overall pick.

I keep getting the Alualu feeling with Graham. I think he'll be a good player and have a lengthy career, but I don't ever see him living up to where he was/is drafted at if he goes in the top 10, much like Alualu.

Thats an odd one, Graham is a much better player than Alu was coming out.

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I have some doubts about Graham this high. Think he will be a good player but not sure he is the game-changing type of DT you'd want with a 5th overall pick.

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I'd be surprised if Dart fell to day 3.

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Carter is a beast. Would be great if the Jags could get him at 5.

Agreed on Graham. My stance has changed on him over the past few months. As has my hopes for each round. With Graham, the production just isn't there for me. I can't justify taking a guy there if he's not bringing that same aura or production with him from college like we saw out of guys like Donald, Suh and McCoy over the years. 

I don't need a space eater on this front four. I need a guy that demands double teams, whips them and disrupts the pocket and reroutes the running back in the backfield. I don't see that in Graham's game. I can get Mills coming off a knee injury on day three I bet out of Notre Dame that does have that element to his game and reminds me a bit of Denver's Allen inside as a pass rusher.

Dart will probably be a day 2 pick now. I was basing a lot of that on other QB's coming into the draft a little bit ahead of him. Now that Beck is in the portal and eyeing Miami, along with Ewers potentially looking to take a rumored $6M NIL deal to transfer for his last year of eligibility, along with Allar potentially staying now, as comments were made last night about this being a possibility mid game.

Dart easily goes up now on most draft boards. I really like that kid. He has a bit of Bo Nix / Baker Mayfield swagger to him. A good QB coach at the next level and a fun play caller could probably get a lot out of him in about a year or two. He does need to work on his pocket awareness though and he's going to need a tighter chin strap if he's going to continue to run headfirst and take hits. Grit though. He's got it. I love that about him. 

Carter is impressive. I know he played through a shoulder injury last night, but, he has the makings of being a Micha Parsons type for sure if he falls on the right team. We have a ton of needs right now on this team. Landing a viable EDGE threat that can actually rotate in with Hines-Allen and Walker and impact the game would be monumental for this team in 2025. Especially in a very winnable division with questionable QB play across the board already with our six match up's.

I believe there is a good chance Carter will be available. The 1st 3 picks are likely to be Ward, Sanders and Hunter. The Patriots have needs at wide receiver, offensive tackle and pass rusher. McMillan, Carter, Banks and Campbell will all be in the discussion. Right now, I hope the Jaguars get Carter because I believe his ceiling is higher than Graham. Johnson would be a close 2nd with his medical evaluation being critical. The group of cornerbacks in free agency is very deep so the best option is to pay one of these guys and draft the elite pass rusher. They already passed on Hutchinson and hope they do not repeat that mistake in 2025.

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I'd take JT or Sawyer in the 2nd out of Ohio St.

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I keep getting the Alualu feeling with Graham. I think he'll be a good player and have a lengthy career, but I don't ever see him living up to where he was/is drafted at if he goes in the top 10, much like Alualu.

Thats an odd one, Graham is a much better player than Alu was coming out.

I didn't say he wasn't, I said I feel like he wont live up to where he gets drafted at, just like Alualu.

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I have some doubts about Graham this high. Think he will be a good player but not sure he is the game-changing type of DT you'd want with a 5th overall pick.

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I'd be surprised if Dart fell to day 3.

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Carter is a beast. Would be great if the Jags could get him at 5.

Agreed on Graham. My stance has changed on him over the past few months. As has my hopes for each round. With Graham, the production just isn't there for me. I can't justify taking a guy there if he's not bringing that same aura or production with him from college like we saw out of guys like Donald, Suh and McCoy over the years. 

I don't need a space eater on this front four. I need a guy that demands double teams, whips them and disrupts the pocket and reroutes the running back in the backfield. I don't see that in Graham's game. I can get Mills coming off a knee injury on day three I bet out of Notre Dame that does have that element to his game and reminds me a bit of Denver's Allen inside as a pass rusher.

Dart will probably be a day 2 pick now. I was basing a lot of that on other QB's coming into the draft a little bit ahead of him. Now that Beck is in the portal and eyeing Miami, along with Ewers potentially looking to take a rumored $6M NIL deal to transfer for his last year of eligibility, along with Allar potentially staying now, as comments were made last night about this being a possibility mid game.

Dart easily goes up now on most draft boards. I really like that kid. He has a bit of Bo Nix / Baker Mayfield swagger to him. A good QB coach at the next level and a fun play caller could probably get a lot out of him in about a year or two. He does need to work on his pocket awareness though and he's going to need a tighter chin strap if he's going to continue to run headfirst and take hits. Grit though. He's got it. I love that about him. 

Carter is impressive. I know he played through a shoulder injury last night, but, he has the makings of being a Micha Parsons type for sure if he falls on the right team. We have a ton of needs right now on this team. Landing a viable EDGE threat that can actually rotate in with Hines-Allen and Walker and impact the game would be monumental for this team in 2025. Especially in a very winnable division with questionable QB play across the board already with our six match up's.

You werent high on Jalen Carter? He's right there with Jalen Carter for me as a prospect and has the same college production as a pass rusher along with being a better run defender. National champion, about the same amount of sacks, 2 time All American.   I think Graham is a future All Pro.  You don't see many people move the way he does at 320 lbs.  Graham or Johnson at 5 is who I want.  Not sure if his arm length is up to standards for Baalke but hopefully the new coach gets who he wants in the early rounds at least.

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Right now for me it's

1. Hunter
2. Johnson if 100%
3. Graham
4. Carter
5. Jeanty

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Agreed on Graham. My stance has changed on him over the past few months. As has my hopes for each round. With Graham, the production just isn't there for me. I can't justify taking a guy there if he's not bringing that same aura or production with him from college like we saw out of guys like Donald, Suh and McCoy over the years. 

I don't need a space eater on this front four. I need a guy that demands double teams, whips them and disrupts the pocket and reroutes the running back in the backfield. I don't see that in Graham's game. I can get Mills coming off a knee injury on day three I bet out of Notre Dame that does have that element to his game and reminds me a bit of Denver's Allen inside as a pass rusher.

Dart will probably be a day 2 pick now. I was basing a lot of that on other QB's coming into the draft a little bit ahead of him. Now that Beck is in the portal and eyeing Miami, along with Ewers potentially looking to take a rumored $6M NIL deal to transfer for his last year of eligibility, along with Allar potentially staying now, as comments were made last night about this being a possibility mid game.

Dart easily goes up now on most draft boards. I really like that kid. He has a bit of Bo Nix / Baker Mayfield swagger to him. A good QB coach at the next level and a fun play caller could probably get a lot out of him in about a year or two. He does need to work on his pocket awareness though and he's going to need a tighter chin strap if he's going to continue to run headfirst and take hits. Grit though. He's got it. I love that about him. 

Carter is impressive. I know he played through a shoulder injury last night, but, he has the makings of being a Micha Parsons type for sure if he falls on the right team. We have a ton of needs right now on this team. Landing a viable EDGE threat that can actually rotate in with Hines-Allen and Walker and impact the game would be monumental for this team in 2025. Especially in a very winnable division with questionable QB play across the board already with our six match up's.

You werent high on Jalen Carter? He's right there with Jalen Carter for me as a prospect and has the same college production as a pass rusher along with being a better run defender. National champion, about the same amount of sacks, 2 time All American.   I think Graham is a future All Pro.  You don't see many people move the way he does at 320 lbs.  Graham or Johnson at 5 is who I want.  Not sure if his arm length is up to standards for Baalke but hopefully the new coach gets who he wants in the early rounds at least.

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Right now for me it's

1. Hunter
2. Johnson if 100%
3. Graham
4. Carter
5. Jeanty

Jeanty at #5 overall in a very deep RB class would be such a Jaguars move lol.

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You werent high on Jalen Carter? He's right there with Jalen Carter for me as a prospect and has the same college production as a pass rusher along with being a better run defender. National champion, about the same amount of sacks, 2 time All American.   I think Graham is a future All Pro.  You don't see many people move the way he does at 320 lbs.  Graham or Johnson at 5 is who I want.  Not sure if his arm length is up to standards for Baalke but hopefully the new coach gets who he wants in the early rounds at least.

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Right now for me it's

1. Hunter
2. Johnson if 100%
3. Graham
4. Carter
5. Jeanty

Jeanty at #5 overall in a very deep RB class would be such a Jaguars move lol.

The good thing is atleast one of the top 4 will be available when we pick.  Likely a couple of them.  Picking 5th though you have to have a top 5 big board.  SB and Combine still to come so things could change a bit.

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Agreed on Graham. My stance has changed on him over the past few months. As has my hopes for each round. With Graham, the production just isn't there for me. I can't justify taking a guy there if he's not bringing that same aura or production with him from college like we saw out of guys like Donald, Suh and McCoy over the years. 

I don't need a space eater on this front four. I need a guy that demands double teams, whips them and disrupts the pocket and reroutes the running back in the backfield. I don't see that in Graham's game. I can get Mills coming off a knee injury on day three I bet out of Notre Dame that does have that element to his game and reminds me a bit of Denver's Allen inside as a pass rusher.

Dart will probably be a day 2 pick now. I was basing a lot of that on other QB's coming into the draft a little bit ahead of him. Now that Beck is in the portal and eyeing Miami, along with Ewers potentially looking to take a rumored $6M NIL deal to transfer for his last year of eligibility, along with Allar potentially staying now, as comments were made last night about this being a possibility mid game.

Dart easily goes up now on most draft boards. I really like that kid. He has a bit of Bo Nix / Baker Mayfield swagger to him. A good QB coach at the next level and a fun play caller could probably get a lot out of him in about a year or two. He does need to work on his pocket awareness though and he's going to need a tighter chin strap if he's going to continue to run headfirst and take hits. Grit though. He's got it. I love that about him. 

Carter is impressive. I know he played through a shoulder injury last night, but, he has the makings of being a Micha Parsons type for sure if he falls on the right team. We have a ton of needs right now on this team. Landing a viable EDGE threat that can actually rotate in with Hines-Allen and Walker and impact the game would be monumental for this team in 2025. Especially in a very winnable division with questionable QB play across the board already with our six match up's.

I believe there is a good chance Carter will be available. The 1st 3 picks are likely to be Ward, Sanders and Hunter. The Patriots have needs at wide receiver, offensive tackle and pass rusher. McMillan, Carter, Banks and Campbell will all be in the discussion. Right now, I hope the Jaguars get Carter because I believe his ceiling is higher than Graham. Johnson would be a close 2nd with his medical evaluation being critical. The group of cornerbacks in free agency is very deep so the best option is to pay one of these guys and draft the elite pass rusher. They already passed on Hutchinson and hope they do not repeat that mistake in 2025.

I'm pretty high on Carter but i don't think he is as good as Hutchinson was coming out. Carter doesn't really have the size to play DE though so if we take him at 5 it likely means we are going back to a 3-4.  It will be interesting to see who our DC is going to be.

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One guy I do not want is Cameron Williams. I've seen him in some mocks in the top 10. He sucks and gets way to many penalties.

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How would you guys feel about trading down and using some mid round picks to maneuver and take two players in the mid to late first round?

Like maybe DT Deone Walker and one of the top guards like Booker or Jackson?

Could go a long way toward fixing our trenches.

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How would you guys feel about trading down and using some mid round picks to maneuver and take two players in the mid to late first round?

Like maybe DT Deone Walker and one of the top guards like Booker or Jackson?

Could go a long way toward fixing our trenches.

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How would you guys feel about trading down and using some mid round picks to maneuver and take two players in the mid to late first round?

Like maybe DT Deone Walker and one of the top guards like Booker or Jackson?

Could go a long way toward fixing our trenches.

Trading back and taking Deone Walker feels exactly like a Baalke move lol.  I'm always up for moving back for the right price but they would have to pay mightily because there will be an elite player sitting at 5.  I wouldn't be happy if Baalke took Walker over Nolen but Baalke probably has Walker as a top 5 player on his board just because of his size, length, and athletic ability.  If my goal is to fix the trenches in the draft im taking Graham at 5 and Ratledge in the 2nd

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How would you guys feel about trading down and using some mid round picks to maneuver and take two players in the mid to late first round?

Like maybe DT Deone Walker and one of the top guards like Booker or Jackson?

Could go a long way toward fixing our trenches.

Trades are always case by case as it depends upon the other team's offer.  If the price is right, you always consider it.  However, I wouldn't be seeking a trade down.  We need some elite players on this team.  If there is an elite player at a position of need at #5, and I think there will be, I'm taking him.

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