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Latest Kiper mock draft has Houston getting Clowney and Bridgewater...

#21

Quote:Jag's DBs should be getting plenty of ints from Bridgewaters weak armed passes.
I honestly think Teddy will be a good QB, but he will throw ALOT of picks at the NFL level.

 

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#22

Quote:I honestly think Teddy will be a good QB, but he will throw ALOT of picks at the NFL level.
Based on what? 

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#23

Quote:Based on what? 
He's got a weak arm. In his pro day, the ball spun off his hand weak.  Wobbling ducks.  He'll be a one dimensional dink and dunk passer.

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#24

Quote:you should of seen the way Geno fell in the draft last year and he had a good pro day.
I'll reiterate my stance on the two of them: they're both black, and they both run a decent 40. That's where it ends. Geno runs away from the pocket if he feels pressure; Bridgewater moves around, but doesn't run for his life at the first sign of an opposing jersey. Most importantly, Bridgewater could read "Atlas Shrugged" twice in the time it takes Geno to read a defense. Geno fell because he was a shaky pro prospect--very shaky. Bridgewater will not tank because he's a good pro prospect--very good.

 

Quote:Your problem is you assume to have some knowledge of where NFL professionals have him ranked.
I was referring to the media and fans, not to NFL types. It seems like every year, right before the draft, there are "late-risers". No one's rising or falling on draft boards. It's just the Mel Kipers of the world hearing about them for the first time.

 

Quote:On 1010 today they had a reporter for the Houston Chronicle on that didn't seem to think it was slam dunk.  He said that if they drafted Clowney they'd have to essentially bench Mercilus who they like.
I remember Mercilus. I liked the guy as a trade-down option, and I'm not surprised to hear about the reluctance to bench him.

 

Of course, given Clowney's size, he could probably be the J.J. Watt of the strong side for Houston. Regardless, if the Texans really like Clowney, they can find a spot for him.

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#25

Considering that Kiper has Bridgewater sliding down into round 2, I'd have no problems the Jags taking him there.. 


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#26

I get it now. Tank 4 Teddy referred to round two. Bloody brilliant Houston.


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#27

I believe the article went to say that Mel doesn't believe that Teddy will slide to the second. He said that someone will trade up for him, but he doesn't project trades.
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#28

Quote:I get it now. Tank 4 Teddy referred to round two. Bloody brilliant Houston.
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I want 3 players. Clowney, Bridgewater, Manziel. Jaguars have the number 3 pick. Just give me one of those 3 at 3, and I'm happy.

 

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#29
(This post was last modified: 04-17-2014, 03:57 PM by Ringo.)

Quote:I love how a bad pro day has everyone dropping Bridgewater to the second round. He might, might slide out of the top 10, but there's no way he slides out of the first round. If Houston does take Clowney, someone would jump up to the 30 range to get him before Houston grabs him in the second.
From Tank for Teddy...to Teddy Tanked in 4 months

 

Anyone hoping he goes in the second round is outta their mind


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#30

Quote:He's got a weak arm. In his pro day, the ball spun off his hand weak.  Wobbling ducks.  He'll be a one dimensional dink and dunk passer.
First of all he doesnt have a weak arm, now he doesnt have a rifle but its not weak, second of all QBs with strong arms throw more INTs due to them forcing the ball in believing they cant fit the ball into any tight spot. Having a strong arm doesnt make you a great QB that has been proven many times over the years.

 

Teddy wont throw a of interceptions because he is a smart and accurate decision maker and throws the ball to the right spots

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#31

Quote:I get it now. Tank 4 Teddy referred to round two. Bloody brilliant Houston.


I wonder how much money Kubiak pocketed in that sweet deal.
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#32
(This post was last modified: 04-17-2014, 06:36 PM by ThGusBus.)

Quote:First of all he doesnt have a weak arm, now he doesnt have a rifle but its not weak, second of all QBs with strong arms throw more INTs due to them forcing the ball in believing they cant fit the ball into any tight spot. Having a strong arm doesnt make you a great QB that has been proven many times over the years.


Teddy wont throw a of interceptions because he is a smart and accurate decision maker and throws the ball to the right spots
I dont think that Bridgewater's arm is bad either. He gets the ball downfield, he is just not accurate down the field. He changes his throwing motion when going downfield. He winds back more than he does normally, and it messes with his accuracy. He has the same quick motion within about 30 yards, but anything more than that causes his motion to be a bit slower which decreases accuracy.
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#33

Quote:My gut says they are gonna go Bortles 
 

This is my gut feeling as well.

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#34

Quote:I'll reiterate my stance on the two of them: they're both black, and they both run a decent 40. That's where it ends. Geno runs away from the pocket if he feels pressure; Bridgewater moves around, but doesn't run for his life at the first sign of an opposing jersey. Most importantly, Bridgewater could read "Atlas Shrugged" twice in the time it takes Geno to read a defense. Geno fell because he was a shaky pro prospect--very shaky. Bridgewater will not tank because he's a good pro prospect--very good.

 

I was referring to the media and fans, not to NFL types. It seems like every year, right before the draft, there are "late-risers". No one's rising or falling on draft boards. It's just the Mel Kipers of the world hearing about them for the first time.

 

I remember Mercilus. I liked the guy as a trade-down option, and I'm not surprised to hear about the reluctance to bench him.

 

Of course, given Clowney's size, he could probably be the J.J. Watt of the strong side for Houston. Regardless, if the Texans really like Clowney, they can find a spot for him.
I have to disagree, I do like Teddy a little more than Geno as a prospect but both are far from a sure thing and both are "shaky pro prospects".  Bill O'Brien is quarterback whisperer so trust me if he is as sure as thing and as good as prospect as you think he is Teddy will go 1st overall, I dont even see why the Texans would be looking at Bortles but the Texans will draft him before they draft Teddy, O'Brien knows

 

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#35

Quote:Bill O'Brien is quarterback whisperer so trust me if he is as sure as thing and as good as prospect as you think he is Teddy will go 1st overall
Bridgewater's not going first overall. He's not the best prospect in this draft--not even close. None of the QBs this year are without-question franchise guys, and I'd be a little surprised if O'Brien didn't end up going Clowney. I wouldn't even be shocked to find out on draft day that the Jaguars think more of Bortles than Bridgewater, as Bortles has the "classic QB" measurables and stronger arm. If Bridgewater does go first overall, tbqh, I'll question whether O'Brien chose to take a QB with a ceiling (not guarantee, ceiling) of "excellent" over a player with a ceiling (not guarantee, ceiling) of "Reggie White".

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#36

Quote:Bridgewater's not going first overall. He's not the best prospect in this draft--not even close. None of the QBs this year are without-question franchise guys, and I'd be a little surprised if O'Brien didn't end up going Clowney. I wouldn't even be shocked to find out on draft day that the Jaguars think more of Bortles than Bridgewater, as Bortles has the "classic QB" measurables and stronger arm. If Bridgewater does go first overall, tbqh, I'll question whether O'Brien chose to take a QB with a ceiling (not guarantee, ceiling) of "excellent" over a player with a ceiling (not guarantee, ceiling) of "Reggie White".
 

I think Houston won't pass up on the "freak" athlete Clowney.

 

If so, I think the first QB off the board will be a reach by Oakland with Manziel.  Fits their draft history.

 

Then, I think Bortles goes to Minnesota, and Ted falls to the Browns at 26.  I think only the desperate of the desperate will go after QBs high in the first round.

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#37

Why because their opinion differs from Mel Kipers? 

 

You have no clue what GMs draft boards are. So you cant claim the QBs were "overdrafted". If Mike Mayock says Player X is 23rd how do you know the same player wasnt #5 in a GMs board. 

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#38
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2014, 05:49 AM by Bullseye.)

More smoke regarding the Texans not wanting Clowney...

 

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/21/2014-nfl-d...arterback/

 

Whether the smoke is truly indicative of a fire, or is of the pre draft variety, is another matter.


 

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#39

Quote:More smoke regarding the Texans not wanting Clowney...

 

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/21/2014-nfl-d...arterback/
 

Still have a hard time seeing it be anybody but Clowney.

 

Mack wouldn't be a bad get for us.

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#40

I don't like Mack at 3.. Clowney is my first pick then Manziel.. If we can't get either, trade back.. So let Clowney fall to pick 3.. I'm 99% sure that he won't make it to 4.. 


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