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New York Times article on Jameis Winston


Quote:Holy cow, somebody wants to give some bad pub to FSU.

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That was a great read. And Gibson is an utterly disgusting human being.

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(This post was last modified: 04-17-2014, 07:05 PM by SilentJaguar.)

Quote:This isn't like Tuscaloosa. Not everyone in this town knew he was the #1 QB in high school.


And again, this notion that the TPD was covering up for him is dumb. They don't do any favors for football players. If they did, Peter Warrick would have won a Heisman, Greg Reid and Preston Parker would have never been kicked off the team either.
 

Gotta call [BAD WORD REMOVED] on this. The kid had multiple ESPN segments done on him just for the 2-sport athlete thing let alone the expectations of being a highly-touted QB recruit who had multiple big-time universities going after his signature before signing with FSU. He was in no way, shape, or form a "nobody" even if he hadn't done anything notable on the field at the time.


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Quote:This isn't like Tuscaloosa. Not everyone in this town knew he was the #1 QB in high school.


And again, this notion that the TPD was covering up for him is dumb. They don't do any favors for football players. If they did, Peter Warrick would have won a Heisman, Greg Reid and Preston Parker would have never been kicked off the team either.
You know better then what you posted there.

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Quote:Trav, might wanna take your skills to the TPD.. They could use ya..


Not gonna go through the whole he said, she said thing. Its been gone through. Over and over and over..
What?

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Quote:What?


Continue reading..
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Quote:You know better then what you posted there.


What?
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(This post was last modified: 04-17-2014, 09:34 PM by TravC59.)

Quote:What?
The special favors comment


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Quote:The special favors comment


They don't do FSU players any favors. Believe what you want.
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Quote:I'm not anti or pro Winston, I have no idea what actually happened. You don't have to have a horse in this race (although quite frankly anyone who puts football ahead of a rape investigation is wrong in the head) to see the police investigation was a joke and because of that we will never know what happened.

 

A woman claimed she was raped, I don't care if she is a hooker with a sex addiction, if someone alleges a crime of that severity, the police who are there to protect us should investigate fully and that clearly didn't happen. Some of the language being used on here regarding the alleged victim makes me feel quite ill. I honestly hope you people dismissing her as a 'skank' or a 'cleat chaser' don't have daughters.
 

I didn't say they did a good job with the investigation. I only said that it's practically impossible to "tamper" with the toxicology reports, and it seems as though speculation on THAT topic had already concluded (without evidence) that it was manipulated. 

 

As for the second part of your post, that doesn't apply to me.

 

Again, all I'm saying is that they may have screw up, but you can't use that to turn the test results around and say they've been manipulated. 

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Quote:I didn't say they did a good job with the investigation. I only said that it's practically impossible to "tamper" with the toxicology reports, and it seems as though speculation on THAT topic had already concluded (without evidence) that it was manipulated. 

 

As for the second part of your post, that doesn't apply to me.

 

Again, all I'm saying is that they may have screw up, but you can't use that to turn the test results around and say they've been manipulated. 
 

I didn't say tampering, screwing up doesn't have to equal tampering.

Quote:Just to be different, Bortles.
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(This post was last modified: 04-18-2014, 08:29 AM by Jungle Cat.)

The accuser used the guy she was partying with.This selfish behavior can't be glossed over. She was having a wild time, risk free. It was his fake ID. If the narrative is correct, he spent his money. She was flat broke under age partying, and if anybody got in trouble it wouldn't be her. She thought so much of the guy that she blew him off and started mingling. According to the account, she saw FSU athletes, started asking all kinds of questions, and when they began to leave she ditched the guy she was with deciding to make her move.

 

According to records, the accuser was coherent enough to remember that if she presented the cabbie with her student ID she could get a discount fare. Records show she freaked out texting another sorority girl after she couldn't find her credentials. 

 

There is zero evidence to suggest that she was forced to take the cab ride that night. 

 

Without refreshing the memory, it seems that the police collected multiple semen donations from her face and drawers. 

 

Oh wait. She was partying with one dude while wearing semen on her face from another guy all the while chasing another three guys apparently wearing crusty and/or squishy soggy drawers.

 

One would not accuse her of walking down Tennessee Avenue with a mattress strapped to her back, but come on...it is impossible to suggest that she believed that the evening's nightcap at the boys' pad would be milk and cookies.

 

It's comical to see the attempts to taint the Tallahassee Police and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement crime lab considering the accuser took a great big swing and a miss strike three by sending off an aliquot of the accuser's lab specimen to the Florida Gators' crime lab. No home cookin' for the accuser attorney. The Gainesville results were exactly the same as they were in Tallahassee, she was NOT drugged.

 

The accuser deserves to be looked at with a healthy amount of skepticism. Apparently, while waiting to be examined at the hospital, she received a text alerting her another person had "all the answers to SP-1". The accuser was so shaken up by her ordeal, she quickly texted back begging for them. 

 

Maybe she'll be your heart surgeon one day?


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Quote:They don't do FSU players any favors. Believe what you want.


The cop worked for Seminole Boosters. That doesnt seem like a conflict of interest to you?
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(This post was last modified: 04-18-2014, 09:20 AM by badger.)

Quote:The accuser used the guy she was partying with.This selfish behavior can't be glossed over. She was having a wild time, risk free. It was his fake ID. If the narrative is correct, he spent his money. She was flat broke under age partying, and if anybody got in trouble it wouldn't be her. She thought so much of the guy that she blew him off and started mingling. According to the account, she saw FSU athletes, started asking all kinds of questions, and when they began to leave she ditched the guy she was with deciding to make her move.


According to records, the accuser was coherent enough to remember that if she presented the cabbie with her student ID she could get a discount fare. Records show she freaked out texting another sorority girl after she couldn't find her credentials.


There is zero evidence to suggest that she was forced to take the cab ride that night.


Without refreshing the memory, it seems that the police collected multiple semen donations from her face and drawers.


Oh wait. She was partying with one dude while wearing semen on her face from another guy all the while chasing another three guys apparently wearing crusty and/or squishy soggy drawers.


One would not accuse her of walking down Tennessee Avenue with a mattress strapped to her back, but come on...it is impossible to suggest that she believed that the evening's nightcap at the boys' pad would be milk and cookies.


It's comical to see the attempts to taint the Tallahassee Police and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement crime lab considering the accuser took a great big swing and a miss strike three by sending off an aliquot of the accuser's lab specimen to the Florida Gators' crime lab. No home cookin' for the accuser attorney. The Gainesville results were exactly the same as they were in Tallahassee, she was NOT drugged.


The accuser deserves to be looked at with a healthy amount of skepticism. Apparently, while waiting to be examined at the hospital, she received a text alerting her another person had "all the answers to SP-1". The accuser was so shaken up by her ordeal, she quickly texted back begging for them.


Maybe she'll be your heart surgeon one day?
If she knew she wasnt drugged, why get tested at all? All the test means is that there is no evidence of her being drugged. It is possible that the drug passed her system by the time the test was administered.


And if UF is so out to get FSU, then why did they give unbiased results?
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Quote:The accuser used the guy she was partying with.This selfish behavior can't be glossed over. She was having a wild time, risk free. It was his fake ID. If the narrative is correct, he spent his money. She was flat broke under age partying, and if anybody got in trouble it wouldn't be her. She thought so much of the guy that she blew him off and started mingling. According to the account, she saw FSU athletes, started asking all kinds of questions, and when they began to leave she ditched the guy she was with deciding to make her move.

 

According to records, the accuser was coherent enough to remember that if she presented the cabbie with her student ID she could get a discount fare. Records show she freaked out texting another sorority girl after she couldn't find her credentials. 

 

There is zero evidence to suggest that she was forced to take the cab ride that night. 

 

Without refreshing the memory, it seems that the police collected multiple semen donations from her face and drawers. 

 

Oh wait. She was partying with one dude while wearing semen on her face from another guy all the while chasing another three guys apparently wearing crusty and/or squishy soggy drawers.

 

One would not accuse her of walking down Tennessee Avenue with a mattress strapped to her back, but come on...it is impossible to suggest that she believed that the evening's nightcap at the boys' pad would be milk and cookies.

 

It's comical to see the attempts to taint the Tallahassee Police and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement crime lab considering the accuser took a great big swing and a miss strike three by sending off an aliquot of the accuser's lab specimen to the Florida Gators' crime lab. No home cookin' for the accuser attorney. The Gainesville results were exactly the same as they were in Tallahassee, she was NOT drugged.

 

The accuser deserves to be looked at with a healthy amount of skepticism. Apparently, while waiting to be examined at the hospital, she received a text alerting her another person had "all the answers to SP-1". The accuser was so shaken up by her ordeal, she quickly texted back begging for them. 

 

Maybe she'll be your heart surgeon one day?
 

Lol, which part of this is not delusional?

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Quote:My allegiance is to the proven innocent only..
 

So the complete opposite of the American criminal justice system then?

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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Quote:So the complete opposite of the American criminal justice system then?
 

Again, my allegiance is to the proven innocent.. If your opinion of Winston is that he's guilty, that's your prerogative.. But what you think, and what he is now, are two different things.. 

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Quote:If she knew she wasnt drugged, why get tested at all? All the test means is that there is no evidence of her being drugged. It is possible that the drug passed her system by the time the test was administered.


And if UF is so out to get FSU, then why did they give unbiased results?
Wut?

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Quote:Lol, which part of this is not delusional?
Facts are stubborn things.

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Quote:Wut?


You said she went to UF to get tested. Why would she do that of she knew she was lying about being drugged?
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Quote:They don't do FSU players any favors. Believe what you want.
10-4 This "investigation" didn't help in supporting your belief.

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