If you feel no QB is worth the pick at 3, but you do feel there are some worth a first or second round pick, and if you feel it is paramount the Jaguars obtain a QB, then it stands to reason that, if you are right about the value of the QBs, most of the QB needy teams could pass on a QB in the top ten of the draft, but be willing to draft a QB at the top of the second round at least.

 

Of course, this could drive the competition for the signal callers to the point where teams are trading up into the bottom of the first round to ensure they get their guy.

 

Jacksonville picks at 39 (7th pick) in the second round, which means the Jaguars may need to trade up to 32 to ensure they get their guy ahead of Houston, et al.  But considering Cleveland is picking at 26 and needs a QB, will the team need to trade ahead of them, too?

 

How far up would you be willing to deal up to get a QB if the team does not go QB with the 3rd pick?  What would you be willing to give up to get to that spot?

 

Would you be willing to give up a future first round pick to move up to get that signal caller?

 

 

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I'm not sure how far you'd have to go up to take a qb but I'd guess right in front of Cleveland. I'm honestly fine trading up wherever and fine giving up a future first. It's a small price to pay for a franchise qb

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If you think a QB is worth a second round pick and a future first, just pull the trigger and take him at 3.

 

If he isn't worth picking at 3, don't give up the boatload of picks to move back up.

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By it's very misguided definition, a "Franchise QB" is usually taken in the top 5.

So, what do we refer to those that are falling into Rd 2 and then the expense of jumping back to get a QB that has already fallen to late 20's. 

 

Unless you have a grade on a QB that makes them that attractive to trade back to end of Rd 1, those picks are needed

elsewhere. I would be hard pressed to give up a 2 to get ahead of Cleveland.

 

To give up a future first, that is what you do to get the Guy, and this year it does not appear the Guy is out there.

 

YMMV

 

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

If you feel no QB is worth the pick at 3, but you do feel there are some worth a first or second round pick, and if you feel it is paramount the Jaguars obtain a QB, then it stands to reason that, if you are right about the value of the QBs, most of the QB needy teams could pass on a QB in the top ten of the draft, but be willing to draft a QB at the top of the second round at least.

 

Of course, this could drive the competition for the signal callers to the point where teams are trading up into the bottom of the first round to ensure they get their guy.

 

Jacksonville picks at 39 (7th pick) in the second round, which means the Jaguars may need to trade up to 32 to ensure they get their guy ahead of Houston, et al.  But considering Cleveland is picking at 26 and needs a QB, will the team need to trade ahead of them, too?

 

How far up would you be willing to deal up to get a QB if the team does not go QB with the 3rd pick?  What would you be willing to give up to get to that spot?

 

Would you be willing to give up a future first round pick to move up to get that signal caller?

 

I wouldn't be willing to trade up at all.  If we like a QB as a franchise QB, we need to either take him at #3 overall.  If we feel that there just isn't value there, trade back to 10 or something and get him there.  

 

I think we need to draft one at 3 or draft one trading back, not trading up.  If someone to us has a low 1st round grade, then he's obviously not a franchise QB in our opinion so trading away a future 1st to obtain him would be foolish, IMO.

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If you think a QB is worth a second round pick and a future first, just pull the trigger and take him at 3.

 

If he isn't worth picking at 3, don't give up the boatload of picks to move back up.

 

Understood on that point, but implicit in this statement is there is an amount of picks that are less than a future first and less than a boatload of picks to move back up.

 

What is the most you would give to move up to get a QB?

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I don't see a QB in this draft I'd take at 3.  I also don't see one I'd be willing to trade up from 39 to get.  If I can work out a trade deal to move down in the first, I'd certainly consider doing so.

 

If one of the top prospects, like Bridgewater or Manziel, slide toward the bottom of the first (28-32), I MIGHT be willing to make a deal to jump up into the first round to grab one of them, but that's as high as I'd be willing to jump, and I don't anticipate either one will be there.  In that case, I'd probably offer up our 2nd and 3rd round picks to jump into the bottom of the 1st round.  None of those teams from 27-32 are going to be in the market for a QB, so if one of these guys falls to that level, I'd start making calls.

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I don't see a QB in this draft I'd take at 3.  I also don't see one I'd be willing to trade up from 39 to get.  If I can work out a trade deal to move down in the first, I'd certainly consider doing so.

 

And if you can't move down from 3 for whatever reason?

 

Do you risk going without a QB for another year or are you proactive in trying to obtain one?

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By it's very misguided definition, a "Franchise QB" is usually taken in the top 5.

So, what do we refer to those that are falling into Rd 2 and then the expense of jumping back to get a QB that has already fallen to late 20's. 

 

 

I dunno.

 

Guys like Esiason, Favre and Kaepernick have been taken in the 2nd round.

 

If you think there is an Esiason level guy in this draft, is he worth going up to get?

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And if you can't move down from 3 for whatever reason?

 

Do you risk going without a QB for another year or are you proactive in trying to obtain one?

I did edit the post above, but to answer your question, no I don't risk going without a QB for another year.  My expectation is that we'll probably see a QB on the board we can work with when we get into the 2nd round, but if one of the more highly touted QBs slide to the bottom of the 1st round, maybe I'd trade up, and that's a big maybe.

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I don't think there is a top five QB in this draft. Brotles, Manziel and Bridgewater are all talented, but not worth the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd pick. If I'm Caldwell I'm taking the BAP 1st and if a QB slips  later on then take them there.

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