WHen I said those things everyone and their grandmother all thought Teddy was going 1st. 

 

Big deal. 

 

I still want the Jags to select him. I just want them to select him at whatever the real value is - allegedly he's falling in the draft. so. that being the case, I'd rather trade down and still get him rather than Gene Smith'ing it and taking him at 3 at all costs.

Step to the left, twirl, step to the right, dip, step forward, curtsy, step backwards, now. That's how you do the barstool diva shuffle.


You're a punch line.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I see his point actually. Trading back and still getting Teddy is the best possible scenario and it's actually pretty possible now. Nothing wrong with maximizing.


Just my two cents though..

 

Exactly. WHen I campaigned for Teddy before, it appeared as it was going to take the 1st overall pick to get him. Now, for whatever reason, Teddy's value has slipped. So, why not try to trade down and get the player and take advantage of that. Its essentially getting Teddy "on sale". 

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I'm not backing off anything. WHere have I said that I do not want us drafting him?? I haven't. 

 

Saying I don't want us taking him at 3 is not the same thing as saying I don't want him to draft him at all. I want proper value. 

 

You are just being an FBT lapdog.

Tony Siragusa sells those Tena men's diapers. You should invest in a truckload.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Lol, comedy gold

 

You'd laugh at anything. So, not surprised. You remind me of ctjags. (teal time radio) 

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Exactly. WHen I campaigned for Teddy before, it appeared as it was going to take the 1st overall pick to get him. Now, for whatever reason, Teddy's value has slipped. So, why not try to trade down and get the player and take advantage of that. Its essentially getting Teddy "on sale".

Striking a deal with Atlanta or someone like that, getting more picks, and still getting Teddy would be marvelous. I think he has great potential despite his falling stock.


If anything, his stock falling may have been the best thing that could've happened.

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Exactly. WHen I campaigned for Teddy before, it appeared as it was going to take the 1st overall pick to get him. Now, for whatever reason, Teddy's value has slipped. So, why not try to trade down and get the player and take advantage of that. Its essentially getting Teddy "on sale". 

 

Because you risk the chance of losing him.  If he is your guy then go out and get him and don't play games.

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Exactly. WHen I campaigned for Teddy before, it appeared as it was going to take the 1st overall pick to get him. Now, for whatever reason, Teddy's value has slipped. So, why not try to trade down and get the player and take advantage of that. Its essentially getting Teddy "on sale". 

 

Even if we do try to trade down, we would never know it.  If we are unsuccessful in a trade and take Teddy at 3 you are going to say, "Hmmm, we could have gotten him later..."

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Because you risk the chance of losing him.  If he is your guy then go out and get him and don't play games.

 

You should have more than "just one player" in mind. Even if Teddy is who you might like the most. Otherwise, thats the mindset that gets you Alualu at 11. If we trade back and someone takes Bridge ahead of us, then take Gilbert or Mack or one of several talented players who will still be available. 

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Even if we do try to trade down, we would never know it.  If we are unsuccessful in a trade and take Teddy at 3 you are going to say, "Hmmm, we could have gotten him later..."

 

Thats not true that "you'd never know it" ....not in the current world of social media. That stuff gets out. JUst like SF offering to trade with us in 2010 from 11 to 14, but we wouldn't do it because Gene was scared of losing out on Alualu. 

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Anyone remember when the Jaguars screwed up, in TMDs eyes, because this draft only had two franchise changers (Clowney and Bridgewater) and the Jaguars were drafting a ludicrous 3rd?

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No no no no. 

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I think Bridgewater at 3 is better value than Mack at 3, yes.

 

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Anyone remember when the Jaguars screwed up, in TMDs eyes, because this draft only had two franchise changers (Clowney and Bridgewater) and the Jaguars were drafting a ludicrous 3rd?

Some people just get off to complaining and being miserable.

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Anyone remember when the Jaguars screwed up, in TMDs eyes, because this draft only had two franchise changers (Clowney and Bridgewater) and the Jaguars were drafting a ludicrous 3rd?

 

no doubt you got beat up a lot in school. 

 

 

Last time I checked there were 7 rounds in the draft. 

 

Picking 1st every round is always better than what the Jags lot is in this draft. 

 

I was still right in wanting the Jags to get the 1st pick. You'll always be wrong if you try and argue otherwise, knowing you, you still will... 1st pick every round = the most options. 

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Two questions TMD.

 

Is Teddy a franchise QB like you claimed he was all this time?  

 

If yes, are you really going to risk losing him by trading back 3 spots for example and taking a Gilbert?

 

If you believe he's the franchise QB we need, how could you risk that?

 

Also, if you think he's a franchise QB, what makes you think the Browns don't?

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WHen I said those things everyone and their grandmother all thought Teddy was going 1st. 

 

Big deal. 

 

 

It IS a big deal.  You literally whined for months. 

 

This whole "Teddy is falling" may just be a huge media fabrication.

 

If you felt so strongly about Teddy, how the hell would you not pick him at 3?  

 

Just hilarious.  

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Two questions TMD.

 

Is Teddy a franchise QB like you claimed he was all this time?  

 

If yes, are you really going to risk losing him by trading back 3 spots for example and taking a Gilbert?

 

If you believe he's the franchise QB we need, how could you risk that?

 

Also, if you think he's a franchise QB, what makes you think the Browns don't?

 

Bad <i>Pro days </i>haven't swayed my opinion on his ability. 

 

That said, if his value has fallen with other teams, it would be stupid to still select him at 3. If the dealer was willing to sell you a new car for 20K would you still insist on paying 30K?

 

The Browns could take him, but I also like Manziel, so theres other options. 

 

Its still better to have the 1st overall pick as a starting point. 

 

It IS a big deal.  You literally whined for months. 

 

This whole "Teddy is falling" may just be a huge media fabrication.

 

If you felt so strongly about Teddy, how the hell would you not pick him at 3?  

 

Just hilarious.  

 

Not hilarious, you're just being simple. 

 

Working the draft is about maximizing value. You don't pay 20 bucks for something that you can get for 10. Regardless if YOU know its worth more than that. LOL....I could see you at a garage sale, finding some antique that you knew was worth wayyy more than the 10 bucks they were selling it as.... 

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That said, if his value has fallen with other teams, it would be stupid to still select him at 3. If the dealer was willing to sell you a new car for 20K would you still insist on paying 30K?

 

 

You're really thick.  You DON'T know if his value has fallen with other teams.  You don't.  If you liked Teddy like you claimed you did (which I can tell that you don't anymore because the public opinion has changed, even though you're acting like your stance hasn't changed).. you would be saying "Take him at 3, he will change our franchise".. How do you know what his value is with other teams?

 

So either you're saying there's MANY players that are similar to Teddy (aka he's not a true franchise QB), or he's a legit franchise QB like you claimed months ago.  Which one is it?

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If you believe a player can be your franchise QB, you take him. It's really that simple

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If you believe a player can be your franchise QB, you take him. It's really that simple

 

"but but what if nobody else thinks he's a franchise QB and you're smarter than everybody and you trade back and you STILL get him hashtag maximizingdraftvalue"

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You're really thick.  You DON'T know if his value has fallen with other teams.  You don't.  If you liked Teddy like you claimed you did (which I can tell that you don't anymore because the public opinion has changed, even though you're acting like your stance hasn't changed).. you would be saying "Take him at 3, he will change our franchise".. How do you know what his value is with other teams?

 

So either you're saying there's MANY players that are similar to Teddy (aka he's not a true franchise QB), or he's a legit franchise QB like you claimed months ago.  Which one is it?

 

Yeah, we pretty much can summize that Teddy's value has fallen with a lot of teams, theres been enough smoke being blown that theres probably fire there. 

 

My opinion on Teddy hasn't changed. 

 

But again, you don't pay 20 bucks for something if you can get it for 10, regardless if you know its still worth 20.....Ok, maybe you would, but its bad business. 

 

And Manziel has risen up a bit in my eyes. I wouldn't mind drafting him as a consolation prize. 

 

Again, I'm not Gene Smith, so I'll actually have contingency plans so I can maximize opportunities in the draft should value present itself, via trade opportunities or other. 

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