im gonna burn this forum down when we draft Teddy. just letting yall know.

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im gonna burn this forum down when we draft Teddy. just letting yall know.

Boy, you're really tough.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Wow, this thread definitely brings the laughs.

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Wow, this thread definitely brings the laughs.

 

Check out the Clowney vs Bridgewater thread. The Geno Smiff and Teddy Brigrade was out in full force telling us how Teddy Bridgewater is a can't miss franchise QB.

 

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Nah. We care more about Pro days then on field production around here.

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Nah. We care more about Pro days then on field production around here.

 

"We" aren't NFL execs, either...

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columni...ollege.ece

 

"But understand that the NFL draft is not about college production. It’s about a player’s measurables. It always has been and always will be. The NFL covets players who best fit the position prototypes, because having the ideal height, weight, strength and speed give them the best chance for success at the next level."

 

The Pro Day was the least of his problems.  It was just the tip of the iceberg, a hint of how he's looked all along to pro scouts.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

"We" aren't NFL execs, either...

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columnists/rick-gosselin/20140225-gosselin-why-nfl-won-t-care-how-jadaveon-clowney-played-in-college.ece'>http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columnists/rick-gosselin/20140225-gosselin-why-nfl-won-t-care-how-jadaveon-clowney-played-in-college.ece</a>


"But understand that the NFL draft is not about college production. It’s about a player’s measurables. It always has been and always will be. The NFL covets players who best fit the position prototypes, because having the ideal height, weight, strength and speed give them the best chance for success at the next level."


The Pro Day was the least of his problems. It was just the tip of the iceberg, a hint of how he's looked all along to pro scouts.

That's what led to Gabbert.


I think the nfl has is wrong by focusing more on measurables than actual tape.

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"We" aren't NFL execs, either...

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columnists/rick-gosselin/20140225-gosselin-why-nfl-won-t-care-how-jadaveon-clowney-played-in-college.ece'>http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columnists/rick-gosselin/20140225-gosselin-why-nfl-won-t-care-how-jadaveon-clowney-played-in-college.ece</a>


"But understand that the NFL draft is not about college production. It’s about a player’s measurables. It always has been and always will be. The NFL covets players who best fit the position prototypes, because having the ideal height, weight, strength and speed give them the best chance for success at the next level."


The Pro Day was the least of his problems. It was just the tip of the iceberg, a hint of how he's looked all along to pro scouts.

So you would take gabbert over Bridgewater because that's what your saying

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"Get Better Everyday"

"The NFL is all about measurables" is the reason guys like Gabbert, Locker, EJ and Russel go top 10. That line of thinking is archaic and wrong.

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"The NFL is all about measurables" is the reason guys like Gabbert, Locker, EJ and Russel go top 10. That line of thinking is archaic and wrong.

 

1. No one is saying it is all about measureables, so drop the strawman.

2. Your post is a great example of what is called confirmation bias.

3. "Measureables" are also big reason guys like Adrian Peterson get drafted higher than guys who put up better college numbers. Again, confirmation bias means you won't look at those cases.

 

For every Tom Brady and Russell Wilson story (guys who dropped due to measurebales, but outplayed their draft position) there are a handful of guys that dropped based on measureables and turned as bad as their measureables suggested.

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Caption: Teddy Bridgewater in better days.

 

 

He's the most pro-ready quarterback in this draft.

 

He had a bad Pro Day, but Pro Days are just guys throwing against air.

 

He's sinking, but that just means he's a terrific value.

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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

 

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1. No one is saying it is all about measureables, so drop the strawman.

2. Your post is a great example of what is called confirmation bias.

3. "Measureables" are also big reason guys like Adrian Peterson get drafted higher than guys who put up better college numbers. Again, confirmation bias means you won't look at those cases.

 

For every Tom Brady and Russell Wilson story (guys who dropped due to measurebales, but outplayed their draft position) there are a handful of guys that dropped based on measureables and turned as bad as their measureables suggested.

 

That quote implied that measurables are more important than tape "the NFL draft is not about college production. It’s about a player’s measurables". "You draft off game film. Gabbert, Locker, and EJ I know for sure had film that no where near warrented a top 15 grade. They were pushed there because of measurables. Its fine to have good measurables and also be a good player. But the tape has to much up, and often it is overlooked by GMs for QBs. 

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I would love Teddy at 3, but the misses he had at his pro day were inexcusable.

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I would love Teddy at 3, but the misses he had at his pro day were inexcusable.

I was hoping he lit it up at the pro day so the Texans would fall for the hype but he looked normal

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"The NFL is all about measurables" is the reason guys like Gabbert, Locker, EJ and Russel go top 10. That line of thinking is archaic and wrong.

I think all the new saber metrics or whatever they call it that tony khan does is starting to

Change that thinking a bit.

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"The NFL is all about measurables" is the reason guys like Gabbert, Locker, EJ and Russel go top 10. That line of thinking is archaic and wrong.

If two QB prospects grade out evenly tangible wise (arm strength, accuracy, mechanics, pocket presence) but one prospect is 6'5 240 pounds and the other is 5'11 195 pounds which QB would you draft?


If you're a team looking for a developmental QB, and one QB has the arm strength, pocket presence tangibles and has so-so accuracy and stands at 6'5 240 pounds and the other prospect has the accuracy and pocket presence but lacks the big arm the other prospect has and stands at 5'11 195 pounds which QB do you draft?

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

If two QB prospects grade out evenly tangible wise (arm strength, accuracy, mechanics, pocket presence) but one prospect is 6'5 240 pounds and the other is 5'11 195 pounds which QB would you draft?


If you're a team looking for a developmental QB, and one QB has the arm strength, pocket presence tangibles and has so-so accuracy and stands at 6'5 240 pounds and the other prospect has the accuracy and pocket presence but lacks the big arm the other prospect has and stands at 5'11 195 pounds which QB do you draft?

If you have to look at two quarterbacks it means you don't have one.

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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

 

http://s6.postimg.org/vyr2ycdfz/Teddy_Br...cked_4.gif

If you have to look at two quarterbacks it means you don't have one.

This would apply to about 18 teams in the league. True franchise QB's are a rare breed and are few and far between.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

If two QB prospects grade out evenly tangible wise (arm strength, accuracy, mechanics, pocket presence) but one prospect is 6'5 240 pounds and the other is 5'11 195 pounds which QB would you draft?


If you're a team looking for a developmental QB, and one QB has the arm strength, pocket presence tangibles and has so-so accuracy and stands at 6'5 240 pounds and the other prospect has the accuracy and pocket presence but lacks the big arm the other prospect has and stands at 5'11 195 pounds which QB do you draft?

Obviously the bigger qb but that's not what he was saying. He's saying teams are using size more so than film which isn't smart.


The example you should be using is this.

Qb A: size, great arm strength, smart, bad pocket presence, accuracy is so so

Qb B: less than ideal size, adequate arm strength, smart, good pocket presence, good accuracy.


Which do you take? I'm taking B all day everyday.

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Obviously the bigger qb but that's not what he was saying. He's saying teams are using size more so than film which isn't smart.


The example you should be using is this.

Qb A: size, great arm strength, smart, bad pocket presence, accuracy is so so

Qb B: less than ideal size, adequate arm strength, smart, good pocket presence, good accuracy.


Which do you take? I'm taking B all day everyday.

 

Geno Smith.

 

lol.

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