I think it was back in April of 2012 when the Jungle was a twitter about Blackmon's DUI in Stillwater that was reduced to underaged drinking I raised concern that his BAC was 0.26.

That is an astounding level that would leave over 95% of the population severly impared, emotionally numb and danger of asphyxiation by aspiration of vomitus if asleep.

In June his aggrivated DUI arrest records show a BAC of .24. He was described by the arresting officers as unsteady on feet, slurred speech, eyes glassy and bloodshot.

 

I know that several here have advocated a tough love approach, some a cut your losses and others let it play out.

It is not as simple a choice as many wish to characterize. Having walked with others trying to climb from this canyon, the journey is difficult and dangerous even with a support group.

What I know is that the true level of his addiction and the demons he is dealing with is not understood by many, he is a very seriously sick young man with a horrid addiction.

 

As a society, those who have not walked in the shoes of addiction, or with someone addicted are all to quick to pass immediate judgement.

Justin needs just as many prayers as Russell Allen, for Justin has the more difficult journey ahead.

 

It is my sincere hope that Justin takes a step forward each day, is back with the team and becomes the face of the franchise.

 

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

I think it was back in April of 2012 when the Jungle was a twitter about Blackmon's DUI in Stillwater that was reduced to underaged drinking I raised concern that his BAC was 0.26.

That is an astounding level that would leave over 95% of the population severly impared, emotionally numb and danger of asphyxiation by aspiration of vomitus if asleep.

In June his aggrivated DUI arrest records show a BAC of .24. He was described by the arresting officers as unsteady on feet, slurred speech, eyes glassy and bloodshot.

 

I know that several here have advocated a tough love approach, some a cut your losses and others let it play out.

It is not as simple a choice as many wish to characterize. Having walked with others trying to climb from this canyon, the journey is difficult and dangerous even with a support group.

What I know is that the true level of his addiction and the demons he is dealing with is not understood by many, he is a very seriously sick young man with a horrid addiction.

 

As a society, those who have not walked in the shoes of addiction, or with someone addicted are all to quick to pass immediate judgement.

Justin needs just as many prayers as Russell Allen, for Justin has the more difficult journey ahead.

 

It is my sincere hope that Justin takes a step forward each day, is back with the team and becomes the face of the franchise.

 

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Excellent statement.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

I think it was back in April of 2012 when the Jungle was a twitter about Blackmon's DUI in Stillwater that was reduced to underaged drinking I raised concern that his BAC was 0.26.

That is an astounding level that would leave over 95% of the population severly impared, emotionally numb and danger of asphyxiation by aspiration of vomitus if asleep.

In June his aggrivated DUI arrest records show a BAC of .24. He was described by the arresting officers as unsteady on feet, slurred speech, eyes glassy and bloodshot.

 

I know that several here have advocated a tough love approach, some a cut your losses and others let it play out.

It is not as simple a choice as many wish to characterize. Having walked with others trying to climb from this canyon, the journey is difficult and dangerous even with a support group.

What I know is that the true level of his addiction and the demons he is dealing with is not understood by many, he is a very seriously sick young man with a horrid addiction.

 

As a society, those who have not walked in the shoes of addiction, or with someone addicted are all to quick to pass immediate judgement.

Justin needs just as many prayers as Russell Allen, for Justin has the more difficult journey ahead.

 

It is my sincere hope that Justin takes a step forward each day, is back with the team and becomes the face of the franchise.

 

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while I certainly hope/pray/wish he gets better.. I cant help but say that alcoholism is not like down's syndrome, or being skitso...

 

you are not born with it, it is self caused, and self fixed... he was not dealt this hand at birth

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while I certainly hope/pray/wish he gets better.. I cant help but say that alcoholism is not like down's syndrome, or being skitso...

 

you are not born with it, it is self caused, and self fixed... he was not dealt this hand at birth

That data is inaccurate.

 

There are proven genetic markers that show that risk of alcholism is pre-determined genetically.

The ongoing research into this have proven that either you have a predilection or can be influenced In Utero.

The data has totally disproved "self caused, self fixed"

 

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

Well, wag your moral indignation in the direction of the players.  They sign the contracts agreeing to this.

 

Like I said, for now it's guys like them who get paid handsomely to take the abuse. Soon it will be average joes like us who don't really have a choice.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

So now you want to restrict my right to enter into an employment contract, the terms and conditions of which I find acceptable?  

 

Suppose I'm worth 5 mil a year, but have a problem with booze.   I promise not to drink during the season, but the team is still worried.  Don't I have the right to offer suffering a monetary penalty for a violation of that promise in an effort to secure employment?  

 

Do you find it acceptable to work for $4 per hour? Why can't you?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I spent 25 years in a Global 10 corporation so I'm very much in tune with corporate America.

 

It's also very real that NFL players agree in their contracts to not participate in risky activities outside of football as in skiing, rollerblading, motorcycle riding, all of them being legal activities and guess what, they agree in their contracts to not participate in those activities.

 

Regards........................the Chiefjag

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I spent 25 years in a Global 10 corporation so I'm very much in tune with corporate America.

 

It's also very real that NFL players agree in their contracts to not participate in risky activities outside of football as in skiing, rollerblading, motorcycle riding, all of them being legal activities and guess what, they agree in their contracts to not participate in those activities.

 

Regards........................the Chiefjag

 

I get it, you guys are cool with it. I'm not. We can agree to disagree, and when they come for your favorite habit then you'll perhaps see my point. Or not.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I get it, you guys are cool with it. I'm not. We can agree to disagree, and when they come for your favorite habit then you'll perhaps see my point. Or not.

 

It's not really a matter of agreeing to disagree.  Clauses like this exist in the real world just as they do in the NFL. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

It's not really a matter of agreeing to disagree.  Clauses like this exist in the real world just as they do in the NFL. 

 

We're disagreeing about the validity of said clauses, not that they exist. I'm simply saying that employer encroachment on privacy rights is a concern for us non-millionaires going forward.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Sammy Watkins #3 will make us not care as much about Blackmon... just sayin

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That data is inaccurate.

 

There are proven genetic markers that show that risk of alcholism is pre-determined genetically.

The ongoing research into this have proven that either you have a predilection or can be influenced In Utero.

The data has totally disproved "self caused, self fixed"

 

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In the case of someone being born into an alcoholic family.. Isn't he from a relatively wealthy family that does not have these issues?

 

also,  having genetics that show he is at higher risk for addictive behavior still does not mean he is born an alcholoic, he still gets that way from self excessive drinking

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Sounds sinister....Blackmon lies in wait! I like it!

Yeah! ya know?... Yeah! Sinister~

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You Gotta Be Able To Run Da' Rock~

Justin needs just as many prayers as Russell Allen, for Justin has the more difficult journey ahead.

 

 

You are crackhead insane.  You should take that back right now. 

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Sammy Watkins #3 will make us not care as much about Blackmon... just sayin

 

Completely agree, and Watkins probably won't be the only WR we draft, either.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I was leaning towards getting a defensive player; say like Mack. But then I saw this.... WOW!!!

 

http://launch.newsinc.com/embed.html?typ...Its-Future

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

In the case of someone being born into an alcoholic family.. Isn't he from a relatively wealthy family that does not have these issues?

 

That we don't know


 

also,  having genetics that show he is at higher risk for addictive behavior still does not mean he is born an alcholoic, he still gets that way from self excessive drinking.

 

Agreed


 

It is the level of excessive drinking and the BAC that are the indicators of the severity of his situation.


In no way do I absolve his behavior, but before any simple, quick judgement/statement is given, it is important to


understand that this is a very serious case.


 

I wish him the best of luck.


 

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

You are crackhead insane.  You should take that back right now. 

They both have a difficult road in front of them.

They both need our prayers.

The road to recovery is very, very difficult.

I assure I am not insane.

 

They both have my prayers.

 

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When they have no time,  they think about it!

When they go down hard, they think about it!

 

Just watch Peyton, Andrew, Caep even Mr. Bundchen.

In the case of someone being born into an alcoholic family.. Isn't he from a relatively wealthy family that does not have these issues?

 

also,  having genetics that show he is at higher risk for addictive behavior still does not mean he is born an alcholoic, he still gets that way from self excessive drinking

All of that is irrelevant. Hopefully he finds a way to turn the corner on this. This is a disease that can cost him a lot more than a football career.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

The genetics from those here on this board have caused me to drink. So it's not just an inherited trait.

That and years of bland football.

Carry on, gotta ice down the rest of my problem.

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