If they are sold on Bortles that is fine but with the Buffalo trade its basically a top 10 pick next year....Is Bortles better than Mariota//Hundley?

 

Im fine with the pick but an extra top 10 pick would have been nice next year.

My response to that would be Bridgewater. How many on this board were crying for the Jags to tank for Teddy, because Teddy was head and shoulders above every other QB this side of Andrew Luck over the last ten years, then Teddy tanked himself and his best-case is late first. Don't draft for next year. All it takes is one arrest, one suspension, one injury, even a few bad games, and suddenly that "trade so we can draft Mariota" strategy doesn't look so bright anymore.

 

At QB moreso than any other position, if there's a guy that you feel strongly about, you take him. Period. Don't pass on a guy you love because you think you're going to love a couple other guys next year.

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If this guy is good no one will remember any of this.  

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My response to that would be Bridgewater. How many on this board were crying for the Jags to tank for Teddy, because Teddy was head and shoulders above every other QB this side of Andrew Luck over the last ten years, then Teddy tanked himself and his best-case is late first. Don't draft for next year. All it takes is one arrest, one suspension, one injury, even a few bad games, and suddenly that "trade so we can draft Mariota" strategy doesn't look so bright anymore.

 

At QB moreso than any other position, if there's a guy that you feel strongly about, you take him. Period. Don't pass on a guy you love because you think you're going to love a couple other guys next year.

I get that if you think the guy is the Franchise QB you take him when you have the chance because there is no guarantee you will be in that position next year...we could have pick 3/4 and Mariota/Hundley go 1/2 and like you said Mariota could fall like Bridgewater so you never know.

 

I'm fine with the pick if Caldwell thinks he is a franchise guy.

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I like that we went QB. I will refrain from comment regarding the actual player because I don't watch college football enough to know either way.

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My response to that would be Bridgewater. How many on this board were crying for the Jags to tank for Teddy, because Teddy was head and shoulders above every other QB this side of Andrew Luck over the last ten years, then Teddy tanked himself and his best-case is late first. Don't draft for next year. All it takes is one arrest, one suspension, one injury, even a few bad games, and suddenly that "trade so we can draft Mariota" strategy doesn't look so bright anymore.

 

At QB moreso than any other position, if there's a guy that you feel strongly about, you take him. Period. Don't pass on a guy you love because you think you're going to love a couple other guys next year.

He didnt tank himself, he's the same player he was in december when he was projected 1st overall as he is now, people are just nitpicking bridgewater

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There are two options on Bridgewater. One, he did tank based upon showing up at the combine looking like a twig then had a terrible pro day.


Two, he didn't tank at all, but the media that had been pimping him as a first overall pick slowly caught on after his twig incident and pro day that they had been horribly over-valuing him, and they adjusted their grade downward.

 

Clearly, it's not just "nitpicking" if a guy who was the top pick in the draft three months ago is now left with only a couple of prayers of coming off the board in round one.

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Haven't felt this low since my divorce.

This made me spit coffee all over my computer.

 

Thanks for the laugh.

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You're Welcome.

I feel pretty darn good about this.

 

Jax is due for some solid QB play and this guy could be it.

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You're Welcome.

Bortles looks like he's already been a Jag for 15 years. 

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My response to that would be Bridgewater. How many on this board were crying for the Jags to tank for Teddy, because Teddy was head and shoulders above every other QB this side of Andrew Luck over the last ten years, then Teddy tanked himself and his best-case is late first. Don't draft for next year. All it takes is one arrest, one suspension, one injury, even a few bad games, and suddenly that "trade so we can draft Mariota" strategy doesn't look so bright anymore.

 

At QB moreso than any other position, if there's a guy that you feel strongly about, you take him. Period. Don't pass on a guy you love because you think you're going to love a couple other guys next year.

Who said? What GM said that? You are just being a mouthpiece for joe the talking head.

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Who said? What GM said that? You are just being a mouthpiece for joe the talking head.

I never said that anyone said anything, aside from the tank for Teddy crew. If you'd been around, oh, I don't know, ten days ago, you might have seen some of that.

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Feeling better about the pick. Bortles has some pressure on him now as the 3rd pick. He'll be heavily scrutinized for it with every mistake he makes being magnified. That's expected, but I hope he can handle it.

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There's a strong feeling that somehow the Jaguars' franchise has once again fallen victim to the passive aggressive behavior of the Gator-infested media.

 

In essence, Bortles is revenge for not moving on Tebow. The circle of Gene Frenette and his cronies just got richer thanks to all of the PR consulting they did to make Bortles big. In fact, Khan just paid the other Team Gene Regime a big fat sum to scratch his itching ears.

 

No amount of PR will change what's going to happen.

 

Bortles is not at all elite NFL-caliber quarterback talent. At best, he can be described as a quarterback panic pick. Nobody was expected to react the way the Jaguars did. All of the other teams made the right choice in selecting the elite talent atop the draft. The Bortles pick sticks out like a sore thumb. His grade is comical to look at in comparison to what the rest of the NFL did in the top five picks.

 

Only a warped franchise would have Bortles at the top of their draft board. He sucks. He will suck. He will retire still sucking. The fact that David Caldwell turned his nose up at Texas A&M offensive tackle Jake Matthews simply means Bortles will have a much shorter career. So will Bradley and Caldwell.

 

Charlie Casserly was grim-faced as he discussed the selection earlier tonight.

 

To relay his words in paraphrase, Bortles was NOT the third best player in this draft. This means he is a developmental pick. Chad Henne is the Jaguars' starting quarterback. Bradley is in his second year and he doesn't have a quarterback. So he took the one highest ranked.

 

There are any number of videos at the draftbreakdown.com site for Bortles.

 

Bortles should be easy enough for anybody here to poke holes in.

 

A short capsule of him:

 

He lacks arm strength to complete deep throws with NFL accuracy. He does not line up over the center enough to exhibit proven ability on the collegiate level. This automatically down-grades Bortles at least out of the top ten prospects. He is strictly a shot-gun passer, not a true drop-back passer. He walks back to the shot-gun from over center a lot prior to the snap, suggesting he has major flaws in his drop-back foot work.

 

He struggles when he isn't able to stare down receivers. This bad habit ordinarily is death sentence in the NFL for any prospect. Bortles hints he will be a pick-six machine. He also struggles to complete passes on the run and this lack of ability to extend plays *successfully* will draw immediate comparisons to Blaine Gabbert.

 

Bortles' pro career will be short. He will start right away as the Jaguars quarterback developmental system does not exist. Ask Ricky Stanzi or Blaine Gabbert how that works.

 

Fans and the media will skip right past Stanzi and demand Bortles instead of Henne early next year. Teams will simply attack his grossly repetitive (habitual to the point of sickening) short passes and hit him on the back end with cloaked safeties. Then when he gets frustrated enough to try and throw deep balls and/or types of passes that demand elite arm strength, Bortles becomes largely ineffectual.

 

We already know that Bortles is going to wash out. He's a college football hero trained to win football games for UCF. He lacks NFL qualities, including ideal diagnostic capabilities. 

 

The comparisons to Ben Roethlisberger are insulting to read and hear. Utter nonsense.

 

Blake Bortles in Gino Torretta 2.0 

 

You can read about him here:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gino_Torretta

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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

 

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Except he's nothing like Gabbert except for his size.

Not so. Bortles will give you results very similar to Gabbert. It's right there on his game videos, if you bother to watch them.

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My response to that would be Bridgewater. How many on this board were crying for the Jags to tank for Teddy, because Teddy was head and shoulders above every other QB this side of Andrew Luck over the last ten years, then Teddy tanked himself and his best-case is late first. Don't draft for next year. All it takes is one arrest, one suspension, one injury, even a few bad games, and suddenly that "trade so we can draft Mariota" strategy doesn't look so bright anymore.

 

At QB moreso than any other position, if there's a guy that you feel strongly about, you take him. Period. Don't pass on a guy you love because you think you're going to love a couple other guys next year.

 

That's precisely what they did.

 

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington'>Jeff Darlington ‏@<b>JeffDarlington</b> </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/464567293008424960'>3h</a>

<p class="">Jaguars GM Dave Caldwell tells me he has long been convinced Bortles was his guy. He didn't consider trading down because he had conviction.

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<p class=""><a class="" href='https://twitter.com/vitostellino'>Vito Stellino ‏@<b>vitostellino</b> </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/vitostellino/status/464573721345548289'>3h</a>

<p class="">Gus Bradley said Jaguars would have taken Bortles over Clowney if Clowney had fallen.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Feeling better about the pick. Bortles has some pressure on him now as the 3rd pick. He'll be heavily scrutinized for it with every mistake he makes being magnified. That's expected, but I hope he can handle it.

 

It would seem he's coming into the right situation, too.

 

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong'>Mark Long ‏@<b>APMarkLong</b> </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/464570211711336449' title="5:59 PM - 8 May 2014">3h</a>

<p class="">Caldwell takes shot at former Jaguars regime, jokes there's no chance they throw Bortles in Week 3 like what happened w/ Gabbert in 2011

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Bortles shouldn't start before Blackmon returns.

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Hot baby, love this.

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It would seem he's coming into the right situation, too.

 

Mark Long ‏@<b>APMarkLong</b> 3h

Caldwell takes shot at former Jaguars regime, jokes there's no chance they throw Bortles in Week 3 like what happened w/ Gabbert in 2011

Fifty sacks in 2012. Fifty sacks in 2013.

 

Jake Matthews is a dirty bird, and the Falcons have Caldwell to thank for that. 

 

Why wouldn't Caldwell want superior pass protection from an elite offensive tackle for his OWN quarterback?

 

A man can't serve two masters, they say.

 

In two years, all he's got is Luke Joeckel, Biff Bortles and a bunch of jack-rabbits.

 

I guess he'll pull a Gene Smith and sign a guy like Cecil Shorts III to a ridiculous contract as a way of saying thanks for all the off-season workouts he did with Bortles?

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TLR per usual

 

The draft isn't over.  Starting caliber C/G are still on the board, and not just one but several of them.  Bitonio, Martin, S-Filo, and several others.

 

Crash test dummy Henne is the starter, so Bortles isn't likely to see time this year, which is plenty of time for the new line to solidify.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."