a friend I work with pointed out something to me. He said the whole thing in it all happened cause of Jar Jar binks in episode 1. The war was alredy going on when the jedi  rescuded him right? what are your opions?

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I hear ya, but I pretty much grew up watching Star Wars...  When Old Ben was talking to Luke about his father in Ep. IV, the implication regarding Obi Wan and Anakin's relationship was that he was a great pilot in regards to the fight against the empire.  It's always been a splinter in my mind the fact that George Lucas decided that a great pilot meant in Pod Races rather than in actually fighting against the fascists of the Old Republic.

 

Now you can take the conversation in Jedi where Luke began to question Obi-Wan's description of certain event's as "A certain Point of View", but to me, I just cannot reconcile that conversation from Ep. IV....  It's just a non-starter for me.  

 

It's a complete inconsistency regarding how Anakin was depicted in the Original Star Wars versus how Lucas completely sold out to get a new generation to  fall in love with the Star Wars Universe.  If you remember, prior to Lucas going CGI crazy and "remastering" the Original trilogy, when we saw "Ghost Anakin" he was an old man like Obi-Wan.  This, to me, means that Obi-Wan and Anakin were similar in age when they first met.  That's how it was implied in the Original trilogy. 

 

The way Lucas created the whole dynamic between Obi-Wan and Anakin in the prequels just doesn't jive with what was described in the Original.  

 

And don't get me started with Mitochlorians and how that completely destroys Yoda's speech from Empire Strikes Back.  How can the Force surround you, when it's just a bunch of cells that some people have alot of and some people don't.  Lucas basically made the force into a kids book about wishing to be gifted instead of the metaphysical awakening of becoming one with the Universe as Yoda described it.

 

Han Solo's (and most of the Empires) interpretation of "an old hokey religion" also comes under question if you accept that Mitochlorians are the basis for a Jedi's powers.  The concept creates a quantifiable basis to decide who's in the "Jedi Club" and who's out.  The whole point of the Original Star Wars trilogy was that it had nothing to do with your birth or your genetic makeup, but with your relationship with the Universe that surrounds you in a more  esoteric and philosophical way.

It's a movie.  You understand that, right?

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I hear ya, but I pretty much grew up watching Star Wars...  When Old Ben was talking to Luke about his father in Ep. IV, the implication regarding Obi Wan and Anakin's relationship was that he was a great pilot in regards to the fight against the empire.  It's always been a splinter in my mind the fact that George Lucas decided that a great pilot meant in Pod Races rather than in actually fighting against the fascists of the Old Republic.

 

Now you can take the conversation in Jedi where Luke began to question Obi-Wan's description of certain event's as "A certain Point of View", but to me, I just cannot reconcile that conversation from Ep. IV....  It's just a non-starter for me.  

 

It's a complete inconsistency regarding how Anakin was depicted in the Original Star Wars versus how Lucas completely sold out to get a new generation to  fall in love with the Star Wars Universe.  If you remember, prior to Lucas going CGI crazy and "remastering" the Original trilogy, when we saw "Ghost Anakin" he was an old man like Obi-Wan.  This, to me, means that Obi-Wan and Anakin were similar in age when they first met.  That's how it was implied in the Original trilogy. 

 

The way Lucas created the whole dynamic between Obi-Wan and Anakin in the prequels just doesn't jive with what was described in the Original.  

 

And don't get me started with Mitochlorians and how that completely destroys Yoda's speech from Empire Strikes Back.  How can the Force surround you, when it's just a bunch of cells that some people have alot of and some people don't.  Lucas basically made the force into a kids book about wishing to be gifted instead of the metaphysical awakening of becoming one with the Universe as Yoda described it.

 

Han Solo's (and most of the Empires) interpretation of "an old hokey religion" also comes under question if you accept that Mitochlorians are the basis for a Jedi's powers.  The concept creates a quantifiable basis to decide who's in the "Jedi Club" and who's out.  The whole point of the Original Star Wars trilogy was that it had nothing to do with your birth or your genetic makeup, but with your relationship with the Universe that surrounds you in a more  esoteric and philosophical way.

 

well when you put it like that...................the Mitochlorians thing was stupid I give you that one. Never thought about the Ghost Anakin looking as old as Obi in Episode VI interesting point.

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I hear ya, but I pretty much grew up watching Star Wars...  When Old Ben was talking to Luke about his father in Ep. IV, the implication regarding Obi Wan and Anakin's relationship was that he was a great pilot in regards to the fight against the empire.  It's always been a splinter in my mind the fact that George Lucas decided that a great pilot meant in Pod Races rather than in actually fighting against the fascists of the Old Republic.

 

Now you can take the conversation in Jedi where Luke began to question Obi-Wan's description of certain event's as "A certain Point of View", but to me, I just cannot reconcile that conversation from Ep. IV....  It's just a non-starter for me.  

 

It's a complete inconsistency regarding how Anakin was depicted in the Original Star Wars versus how Lucas completely sold out to get a new generation to  fall in love with the Star Wars Universe.  If you remember, prior to Lucas going CGI crazy and "remastering" the Original trilogy, when we saw "Ghost Anakin" he was an old man like Obi-Wan.  This, to me, means that Obi-Wan and Anakin were similar in age when they first met.  That's how it was implied in the Original trilogy. 

 

The way Lucas created the whole dynamic between Obi-Wan and Anakin in the prequels just doesn't jive with what was described in the Original.  

 

And don't get me started with Mitochlorians and how that completely destroys Yoda's speech from Empire Strikes Back.  How can the Force surround you, when it's just a bunch of cells that some people have alot of and some people don't.  Lucas basically made the force into a kids book about wishing to be gifted instead of the metaphysical awakening of becoming one with the Universe as Yoda described it.

 

Han Solo's (and most of the Empires) interpretation of "an old hokey religion" also comes under question if you accept that Mitochlorians are the basis for a Jedi's powers.  The concept creates a quantifiable basis to decide who's in the "Jedi Club" and who's out.  The whole point of the Original Star Wars trilogy was that it had nothing to do with your birth or your genetic makeup, but with your relationship with the Universe that surrounds you in a more  esoteric and philosophical way.

 

Wow... and I thought I was a geek. 

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a friend I work with pointed out something to me. He said the whole thing in it all happened cause of Jar Jar binks in episode 1. The war was alredy going on when the jedi  rescuded him right? what are your opions?

 

it's all Jar Jar's fault Snowie!

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well when you put it like that...................the Mitochlorians thing was stupid I give you that one. Never thought about the Ghost Anakin looking as old as Obi in Episode VI interesting point.

 

It had nothing to do with when Kenobi and Skywalker met and EVERYTHING to do with the "Return" of the Jedi who had been a Sith. The ghost image of Anakin as a healed and well old man demonstrates that Luke successfully escorted his lost father back to the light before he died. 

 

Episode 1 did more to harm the story than anything else though. Mitochlorians my back side. Someone needs to come out in the new movie and say "Master Ginn was very eccentric and his views of the force were found to be well-meaning but actually a Sith-inspired deception." 

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it's all Jar Jar's fault Snowie!

Exactly.  He ruined it.

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Exactly.  He ruined it.

 

I did a quick "why do people hate episode I" search, came across a guy that listed 78 of them. The one I found the funniest was he points out that droids wouldn't have a chain of command!

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I did a quick "why do people hate episode I" search, came across a guy that listed 78 of them. The one I found the funniest was he points out that droids wouldn't have a chain of command!

 

Someone had too much time on their hands, and then there's the guy who had 78 reasons for not liking episode 1. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I hear ya, but I pretty much grew up watching Star Wars...  When Old Ben was talking to Luke about his father in Ep. IV, the implication regarding Obi Wan and Anakin's relationship was that he was a great pilot in regards to the fight against the empire.  It's always been a splinter in my mind the fact that George Lucas decided that a great pilot meant in Pod Races rather than in actually fighting against the fascists of the Old Republic.

 

Now you can take the conversation in Jedi where Luke began to question Obi-Wan's description of certain event's as "A certain Point of View", but to me, I just cannot reconcile that conversation from Ep. IV....  It's just a non-starter for me.  

 

It's a complete inconsistency regarding how Anakin was depicted in the Original Star Wars versus how Lucas completely sold out to get a new generation to  fall in love with the Star Wars Universe.  If you remember, prior to Lucas going CGI crazy and "remastering" the Original trilogy, when we saw "Ghost Anakin" he was an old man like Obi-Wan.  This, to me, means that Obi-Wan and Anakin were similar in age when they first met.  That's how it was implied in the Original trilogy. 

 

The way Lucas created the whole dynamic between Obi-Wan and Anakin in the prequels just doesn't jive with what was described in the Original.  

 

And don't get me started with Mitochlorians and how that completely destroys Yoda's speech from Empire Strikes Back.  How can the Force surround you, when it's just a bunch of cells that some people have alot of and some people don't.  Lucas basically made the force into a kids book about wishing to be gifted instead of the metaphysical awakening of becoming one with the Universe as Yoda described it.

 

Han Solo's (and most of the Empires) interpretation of "an old hokey religion" also comes under question if you accept that Mitochlorians are the basis for a Jedi's powers.  The concept creates a quantifiable basis to decide who's in the "Jedi Club" and who's out.  The whole point of the Original Star Wars trilogy was that it had nothing to do with your birth or your genetic makeup, but with your relationship with the Universe that surrounds you in a more  esoteric and philosophical way.

 

This is an excellent take on the "break" that happened in the story/background. I get that only "geeks" would care about stuff like this, but any good story has a deep history to it and Lucas changed it on us.

 

Whereas the original trilogy had the feel of being a "sci-fi story for everyone", Episodes I through III felt as if he were trying to change it to Harry Potter.

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Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

if it was really all Jar Jar  binks fault can someone please explain that to me? I don't see how he conttects to the empirse being born ,and Anakin  skywalker turning to dark side. Can someone please explain that cause I been watching the triogley trying to see it, and I don't.

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snowwolf titans owner in madden.

note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

if it was really all Jar Jar  binks fault can someone please explain that to me? I don't see how he conttects to the empirse being born ,and Anakin  skywalker turning to dark side. Can someone please explain that cause I been watching the triogley trying to see it, and I don't.

The main problem of Jar Jar was the fact he was clearly inserted for two specific and related reasons; 1: To appeal to kids and 2: To sell toys. Even his speech patterns were engineered for this, George Lucas was clearly hoping it would become a playground thing to speak like Jar Jar.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars...led-2014-7

 

I hope these new plot details are not true, possible spoiler alert:

 

 

 

 

 

 

But they're saying the entire story might be based of finding Luke? I guess him and the rest of the cast have lost contact his hand is floating in space magically ends up on another desert planet and the kids that find it magically run into Han who then go to find their long lost friend.

 

YUCK! ......................I'm suddenly very concerned.............that sounds like a horrible plot!

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I read that earlier and I'm with you if this ends up being what they are saying it's going to be horrible.  I really hope it's a cruel joke. 

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I read that earlier and I'm with you if this ends up being what they are saying it's going to be horrible. I really hope it's a cruel joke.

I'll say this now if the opening credits role and I see a hand at midnight on dec 15 2015 I'm gonna flip......

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if it was really all Jar Jar binks fault can someone please explain that to me? I don't see how he conttects to the empirse being born ,and Anakin skywalker turning to dark side. Can someone please explain that cause I been watching the triogley trying to see it, and I don't.

What your friend is referring to (at least I think; its been a while since I have seen it and the details are fuzzy) is that Padme's Senate seat was left in the incapable hands of Jar Jar and he was then manipulated by the bad guys into some form of wartime parliamentary action (of which the details are completely fuzzy and gone from my poor brain).


Right?

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Well I'm excited for the upcoming trilogy. I'm optimistic that they can't be worse than the prequels. The one thing I did really enjoy about the prequels is that it had several non-human jedi. I'm hoping the new movies does the same in this regard. Too many humans would be too boring. 

 

Also, has anyone played Knights of the Old Republic? I finally started playing it a few weeks ago, and wow that game is fantastic. 

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Opening weekend of #1 coincided with my introduction to fungi.  I had no clue what was going on in the film, but the visuals and aurals were amazing.  

Best way to see it I think.

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I'm sure the movies will be fine.  JJ Abrams is a solid choice to reboot the franchise. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I thoroughly enjoyed the first movie.  The rest is a big mystery to me.

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