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The defensive line

#41

It seems the Jags have real depth at the dline.They are loaded.They will keep maybe...8 or 9?Who they cut will definitely be picked up


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#42
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2014, 08:39 AM by InmanRoshi.)

Quote:So Branch played well out there? Care to point out some plays you saw him make?

 
 

His very first snap in the game on the opening drive when he drew a holding call on Demar Dotson after he walked him back into McCown's face.    The penalty wiped out a 17 yard first down  by the Bucs and put them in a 3rd and 19 and essentially killed the Bucs opening drive .     Or when  he took Dotson wide  and created the gigantic blitzing lane that Telvin Smith ran through to rush  McCown into the throw on the Guy pick 6.    That seems like a pretty nice accumulation of big plays for a guy who only played 3 series, and mostly in a subpackage role. 

 

 

 There wasn't a single snap I believe the Babich would grade Branch negatively on in his film review.    Maybe a discombobulated twist with Marks that was a timing issue between the two that you can typically expect in the first preseason game.  


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#43

Quote:Chris Smith is either capable of lightning reflexes or he was predicting a predictable snap count.

 

Either way, I think he should get some reps with the first team next week. His couple of jumps off the line reminded me of Troy Polamalu and his borderline offsides shenanigans.

 

What did you guys think of the DLine's performance this game?

A lot of rotation with the Leos I think is the plan, and the DLine did look impressive early in the game against TBs starters.  Chris is already on the 1st team / starter at DE

 

http://www.jaguars.com/team/depth-chart.html

 

Starting DLine

 

LDE Big Red

DT Roy Miller

DT S. Marks

RDE Chris Clemons


LBs

OLB Geno Hayes

MILB Poz

OLB Reynolds

 

CBs

L Gratz

R Ball

 

Safety

SS Jonathan Cyprien *

FS Winston Guy

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#44

Quote:His very first snap in the game on the opening drive when he drew a holding call on Demar Dotson after he walked him back into McCown's face. The penalty wiped out a 17 yard first down by the Bucs and put them in a 3rd and 19 and essentially killed the Bucs opening drive . Or when he took Dotson wide and created the gigantic blitzing lane that Telvin Smith ran through to rush McCown into the throw on the Guy pick 6. That seems like a pretty nice accumulation of big plays for a guy who only played 3 series, and mostly in a subpackage role.



There wasn't a single snap I believe the Babich would grade Branch negatively on in his film review. Maybe a discombobulated twist with Marks that was a timing issue between the two that you can typically expect in the first preseason game.


Hmmmmm...took Dotson wide...?


Effectively he ran away from the QB and drew the blocker away from the line. Some serious skillz on display there.
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#45
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2014, 10:31 AM by InmanRoshi.)

Quote:Hmmmmm...took Dotson wide...?


Effectively he ran away from the QB and drew the blocker away from the line. Some serious skillz on display there.
 

He ran a designed play and performed his duties exactly as assigned, and in doing so contributed to a pick 6 (he also made a critical block that sprung the TD).    To Johnny Meatball Football Fan, I guess that's called "getting blocked" and should be docked for it.   Most meatball fans probably also think when defensive end is running a stunt play that he's getting stone walled by the guard.    That's why most fans are meatballs and their opinions should be given no credence.    


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#46

Quote:He ran a designed play and performed his duties exactly as assigned, and in doing so contributed to a pick 6 (he also made a critical block that sprung the TD). To Johnny Meatball Football Fan, I guess that's called "getting blocked" and should be docked for it. Most meatball fans probably also think when defensive end is running a stunt play that he's getting stone walled by the guard. That's why most fans are meatballs and their opinions should be given no credence.


Ahhhh....Jimmy "pseudo-intellectual Jr football analysis" guy. Always fun to see some kid describe some ordinary play as such in order to feign some superior expertise. It's cute. Really, it is.


He ran a stunt. 250 D-linemen ran stunts last weekend and half of them will be unemployed in a couple weeks.


But you go ahead and act like he made some incredible play. And when your done pretending to be some bastion of accelerated football wisdom, run along a pick up your toys.
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#47

Quote:Ahhhh....Jimmy "pseudo-intellectual Jr football analysis" guy. Always fun to see some kid describe some ordinary play as such in order to feign some superior expertise. It's cute. Really, it is.

 
 

Please educate yourself on the basics of the game of football and come back when you can make a useful contribution.  

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#48
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2014, 11:31 AM by InmanRoshi.)

Quote:Ahhhh....Jimmy "pseudo-intellectual Jr football analysis" guy. Always fun to see some kid describe some ordinary play as such in order to feign some superior expertise. It's cute. Really, it is.


He ran a stunt. 250 D-linemen ran stunts last weekend and half of them will be unemployed in a couple weeks.


But you go ahead and act like he made some incredible play. And when your done pretending to be some bastion of accelerated football wisdom, run along a pick up your toys.
 

Ugh no.  The pick 6 did not come on a stunt.   Again, either you didn't watch the game  or you have a stunning lack of understanding as to what it entails.  

 

Once again, meatball football fan insists on embarrassing himself when he obviously doesn't know anything about the game.  Please put down the double stacked nachos, wipe the construction orange cheese off your face and educate yourself on the rudimentary basics and come back when you can make a useful contribution to big boy discussions


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#49

Quote:Ugh no. The pick 6 did not come on a stunt. Again, either you didn't watch the game or you have a stunning lack of understanding as to what it entails.


Once again, meatball football fan insists on embarrassing himself when he obviously doesn't know anything about the game. Please put down the double stacked nachos, wipe the facepaint off your face and educate yourself on the rudimentary basics and come back when you can make a useful contribution to big boy discussions


LOL!


Thanks for playing.
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#50

You brought up a stunt. Nice edit bro.
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#51

Quote:LOL!


Thanks for playing.
 

And thanks for wasting bandwitdth with uninformed opinions untethered to any semblance of basic knowledge or understanding of the game.  

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#52
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2014, 11:42 AM by Caldrac.)

The defensive line came ready to play Friday night, that's for sure. I was very happy to see that live. If they're getting to the QB already that should be a good indicator of where Gus and Babich have this defense potentially heading. With all that said, I am going to keep throwing the key word around here that's become Gus's camp favorite. "Consistency". The front four was getting it done all night on Friday, now, let's see how you look on a Thursday night on the road.


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#53

Quote:And thanks for wasting bandwitdth with uninformed opinions untethered to any semblance of basic knowledge or understanding of the game.


What happened to the stunt you were talking about?
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#54

Quote:What happened to the stunt you were talking about?
 

The stunt was an example of the point he was trying to make (people not knowing about football and talking about it).  The statement he made in no way lead me to believe the stunt was used on that play, even if I had not watched the game.

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#55
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2014, 01:17 PM by InmanRoshi.)

Quote:What happened to the stunt you were talking about?
 

A stunt called on Branch's 2nd snap of the game.  You might have missed it, since you apparently missed the holding penalty Branch drew on Dotson the play before.   This is an instance where a fan might accuse Branch of "getting blocked" but the Jag coaches grade him positively because it's specifically his job to attack and tie up the guard so it frees Marks up.    Just like a fan would accuse Branch of "getting blocked" on the Guy interception when it was specifically his responsibility to engage the offensive tackle and draw him up the field to clear the blitz lane for Telvin Smith, just as Marks equally "got blocked" by crashing down on the guard.  


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#56

Quote:The defensive line came ready to play Friday night, that's for sure. I was very happy to see that live. If they're getting to the QB already that should be a good indicator of where Gus and Babich have this defense potentially heading. With all that said, I am going to keep throwing the key word around here that's become Gus's camp favorite. "Consistency". The front four was getting it done all night on Friday, now, let's see how you look on a Thursday night on the road.
the starting defense shouldn't play long, right? In the 2nd preseason, usually starters play a quarter or do they play a half? I just hope we can take this deep d - line into the regular season, healthy. It's going to be hard to run up the middle with Red, Miller, and Marks clogging up the middle. The 3rd down (lightning) package contained Clemons, Marks, Davis, and Branch.
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#57

D-Line already crushing dreams....

 

 

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Quote:<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);text-align:left;">Starting quarterback Josh McCown spent all four of his drives running for dear life in Friday night's loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);text-align:left;">No stranger to questionable line play from his days in Chicago,Lovie Smith isn't wasting time making changes. The Bucs coach told reporters over the weekend that starting right guardJamon Meredith has been yanked from the first string into a backup offensive tackle role.

<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);text-align:left;">.......Once anchored by the well-paid trio of Davin JosephDonald Penn and Carl Nicks, Tampa's current front five features a collage of mid-tier blockers who looked helpless against Jacksonville's pass rush.

 
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#58

Quote:the starting defense shouldn't play long, right? In the 2nd preseason, usually starters play a quarter or do they play a half? I just hope we can take this deep d - line into the regular season, healthy. It's going to be hard to run up the middle with Red, Miller, and Marks clogging up the middle. The 3rd down (lightning) package contained Clemons, Marks, Davis, and Branch.
 

True. We'll see. It's promising though. I noticed we were rotating the lineman in and out constantly last Friday. Stupar stood out at MLB as well. I think he got hurt though on one play and had to come out. Not sure what his status is for Thursday but I hope he gets to play. Guy also made a great play on that overthrown pass too. Honestly looking to seeing just two main things on Thursday.Consistent pressure on the QB, and improvements made in the run blocking on offense.

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D-Line already crushing dreams....

 

 

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Makes me feel good that the Jags D caused that.  

Huh
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#60

Quote:D-Line already crushing dreams....

 

 

 


 

 

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Lol i saw this too... Im rewatching the game now cause i missed some this weekend.... Holy crap we got some pressure on that first defensive series... Marks was a beast
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