Meanwhile,  the Community Organizer is absolutely lost without a telepromper.   You can't be more unqualified.

 

 With all of the fake scandals that were created to destroy Sarah Palin,   I'm not going to criticize her for stepping down.   Guaranteed,  she's more patriotic to Alaska and America than the Community Organizer is.  

Using a teleprompter to deliver a speech makes you unqualified? I'm sure there are plenty of more legitimate complains you could have but this one?

 

Fake scandals, that's rich. He's a Muslim, he wasn't born here, his middle name is Hussein!?!?!??! Let's not try to pretend that poor little mamma grizzly was the only person that had mud slung at her. 

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  In the purest standpoint,  it's expressing Liberal thoughts.   By itself,  that's fine.  But not in the context and situation of the way Shep Smith did it.  

 

Okay.

 

I don't watch Fox news or any other cable news source, what did he say about "Joe the plumber"? (from what I can recall his name isn't Joe and he isn't a plumber)

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They were both equally qualified.  The only qualifications to be U.S. President are:


-Must be a natural born citizen of the United States (some will argue otherwise for Obama, but he did have his birth certificate)

-Must be 35 years of age or older

-Must never have been impeached by the Senate

-Must have been a citizen for 14 years

-Must not have participated in a rebellion against the United States.

 

Palin was a mistake.  Especially given Obama's choice for Veep.  McCain could have made several choices (more ready to step in if McCain were to die in office) that would make Biden look terrible.  Instead he went with someone with little to no recognition, someone who clearly couldn't handle the media, and someone who was too far north on the political compass 

 

  I'm not going to get into Obama's qualifications in this thread,  as it's way beyond the topic.

 

 As for Sarah Palin,  in fairness she didn't have the foreign policy knowledge that was needed at that time.   However,  despite that,  I strongly believe she was more knowledgable on that spectrum of issues than Obama.    The latter said that there are 57 states in the U.S.  and that Austrian is a language.

 

Regarding Joe " Jobs is a 3 letter Word " Biden,  despite decades of experience in the U.S. Senate,  he's incompetent.  

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Using a teleprompter to deliver a speech makes you unqualified? I'm sure there are plenty of more legitimate complains you could have but this one?

 

Fake scandals, that's rich. He's a Muslim, he wasn't born here, his middle name is Hussein!?!?!??! Let's not try to pretend that poor little mamma grizzly was the only person that had mud slung at her. 

 

 I have many legit complaints.  But in the context of the specific discussion,  I think Obama doesn't have remotely close to the knowledge that's needed to be an effective Chief Executive.   Why doesn't he show his grades or college thesis?   He's definitely hiding something ( s ). 

 

What you consider fake scandals are viewed differently by many other people.    Until a moderator points out what can and can't be said about what you brought up,  I'm not going to comment further on that specific comment. 

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 Why doesn't he show his grades or college thesis?   He's definitely hiding something ( s ). 

 

LOL

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  I'm not going to get into Obama's qualifications in this thread,  as it's way beyond the topic.

 

 As for Sarah Palin,  in fairness she didn't have the foreign policy knowledge that was needed at that time.   However,  despite that,  I strongly believe she was more knowledgable on that spectrum of issues than Obama.    The latter said that there are 57 states in the U.S.  and that Austrian is a language.

 

Regarding Joe " Jobs is a 3 letter Word " Biden,  despite decades of experience in the U.S. Senate,  he's incompetent.  

 

Of course he's incompetent.  Which is why it's mind boggling why McCain didn't pick someone who would look like gold next to him.  Someone with some recognition (so people wouldn't have to look up everything they've done, especially when they have a short track record), someone who could handle the media, and someone a little south on the political scale (to attract the more libertarian voters)

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Okay.

 

I don't watch Fox news or any other cable news source, what did he say about "Joe the plumber"? (from what I can recall his name isn't Joe and he isn't a plumber)

 

 

 The one thing I recall is when Joe ' The Plumber'  expressed major concerns about Obama's views on Israel,   Shep Smith said that Obama expressed and demonstrated repeatedly that the relationship with Israel and the U.S. will never change.   Guess who was right?  

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LOL

 

 

One day the truth will come out. 

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 The one thing I recall is when Joe ' The Plumber'  expressed major concerns about Obama's views on Israel,   Shep Smith said that Obama expressed and demonstrated repeatedly that the relationship with Israel and the U.S. will never change.   Guess who was right?  

 

As far as I know Shep is right so far.

 

Do you have something to suggest otherwise?

 

As for the truth, what in the world could the truth about a guy's college grades or thesis have to do with anything at all? You do realize it's not even a requirement for someone to have gone to college to be president, don't you?

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Of course he's incompetent.  Which is why it's mind boggling why McCain didn't pick someone who would look like gold next to him.  Someone with some recognition (so people wouldn't have to look up everything they've done, especially when they have a short track record), someone who could handle the media, and someone a little south on the political scale (to attract the more libertarian voters)

 

  It was a mistake by John McCain when looking at the situation overall.   However,  at the time Sarah Palin energized the Conservative basis.   I personally didn't give the campaign a contribution until he added Palin to the ticket.   McCain was my least favorite choice in the Republican primary process.   My favorite choice, Duncan Hunter,  didn't last long in the race.  Eventually,  I supported Mike Huckabee,  who I think is terrific on many issues but not so good on a couple of major issues.

 

  While I still believe the ticket needed a Conservative,   as most Conservatives weren't comfortable with McCain,   I think he should have chosen a Conservative with more Foreign Policy experience than Palin.

 

  I do think Palin did have a much better preferred strategy during the campaign than McCain.  She wanted to bring up Obama's hideous associations,  including Jeremiah Wright.   However,  the McCain campaign silenced her.    Other than Bill Ayers,  none of Obama's associations were brought up.    I knew at that time the situation was bleak and refused to give McCain another penny.   I went the PAC route instead. 

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Agreed.  

 

Shep Smith proved it when he undermined the McCain/ Palin ticket in October, 2008.  Smith blasted Joe the Plumber at a time the Ohio citizen was the only thing sustaining the ultra politically correct McCain campaign.    Much like with O' Reilly,  I look forward to the day that Smith is no long on FOX News Channel or any media outlet.

Rush railroaded McCain as well.

But either way. Joe the Plumber and Sara Palin were and still are a joke. McCain got sucked into taking Palin on for VP. C'mon GOP....Sara Palin? That's the best you had ( have)?

Why shouldn't Smith stay at Fox. Don't like " Fair and Balanced"? Can't have all Hannitys on there pulling his hair out.

Want fair and balanced? The Daily Show. At least I can get a laugh.

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As far as I know Shep is right so far.

 

Do you have something to suggest otherwise?

 

As for the truth, what in the world could the truth about a guy's college grades or thesis have to do with anything at all? You do realize it's not even a requirement for someone to have gone to college to be president, don't you?

 

 Obama and John Kerry are constantly pressuring Israel to make concessions and refrain from destroying Hamas.    Not to mention,  they have funded Hamas-Fatah unity government despite Hamas officially being classified by the U.S. as a terrorist organization.

 

 While one can be elected President if he doesn't show his grades or thesis and has the legal qualifications necessary,   it doesn't change the fact that Obama isn't the brilliant individual that much of the media,  professors,  and elites claim him to be.    When I think of Obama,  the expression the  " Emperor has no clothes"  immediately comes to mind.     As much as I didn't like Bill Clinton as President,   I know that he knew the issues backwards and forwards.    

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 Obama and John Kerry are constantly pressuring Israel to make concessions and refrain from destroying Hamas.    Not to mention,  they have funded Hamas-Fatah unity government despite Hamas officially being classified by the U.S. as a terrorist organization.

 

 While one can be elected President if he doesn't show his grades or thesis and has the legal qualifications necessary,   it doesn't change the fact that Obama isn't the brilliant individual that much of the media,  professors,  and elites claim him to be.    When I think of Obama,  the expression the  " Emperor has no clothes"  immediately comes to mind.     As much as I didn't like Bill Clinton as President,   I know that he knew the issues backwards and forwards.    

 

First part: not seeing the change in the US relationship with Israel in your remark.

 

Second part: it must just kill you that Osama got caught on Obama's watch.

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Rush railroaded McCain as well.

But either way. Joe the Plumber and Sara Palin were and still are a joke. McCain got sucked into taking Palin on for VP. C'mon GOP....Sara Palin? That's the best you had ( have)?

Why shouldn't Smith stay at Fox. Don't like " Fair and Balanced"? Can't have all Hannitys on there pulling his hair out.

Want fair and balanced? The Daily Show. At least I can get a laugh.

 

I'm not familiar with how Rush railroaded McCain but I do know that Michael Savage caused considerable damage to the McCain-Palin ticket.   There was a time I respected Savage.  But the way he goes 180 degrees on subjects and back,  he can't be trusted.

 

I acknowledged that it was a mistake to put Sarah Palin on the ticket.

 

If Fox wants to keep Shep Smith,  that's their right.   I also have the right to find alternative news sources.  

 

If every other network was fair and balanced,   the presence of Smith and O' Reilly on Fox wouldn't be noticeable.   But with the vast majority of the media at the very least partially to the left,    my preference would be for Fox to be a true Conservative alternative. 

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Using a teleprompter to deliver a speech makes you unqualified? I'm sure there are plenty of more legitimate complains you could have but this one?

 

Fake scandals, that's rich. He's a Muslim, he wasn't born here, his middle name is Hussein!?!?!??! Let's not try to pretend that poor little mamma grizzly was the only person that had mud slung at her. 

 

I truly love the "fake scandals" claims. 

 

4 dead Americans in Benghazi?  Fake scandal.

 

IRS targets conservative groups with additional scrutiny above and beyond anything they do for liberal groups?  Fake scandal.

 

Running guns across the southern border in an attempt to try to stoke the flames of gun control, only many of the weapons they shipped across the border illegally turning up at murder scenes, including the death of a US Border Patrol agent.  Fake scandal,.

 

The complete mismanagement of the ObamaCare website while funneling billions into a website that still doesn't work correctly, and has some problems that are so significant that the government has come out and said that up to 1/4 of the "enrolled" in these plans were not qualified to do so, but there's nothing they can do about it.  Fake scandal.

 

Arming al Qaeda, a terrorist organization that just happened to be behind 9/11 in Libya and Syria?  Fake scandal.

 

The list goes on and on.  LIbs come back with the "fake scandal" comments so often that it's pretty much formulaic at this point.  If a republican was in the White House, none of these would be considered fake by the same people who will do anything to cover for their messiah.  It's ignored by the left because he's their guy.  If it's a scandal for one administration, it should be a scandal for any administration.  If this was Bush, I'd be saying the same thing.  There were plenty of issues under his administration that should have  been addressed.  The same is true here as this administration has proven time and time again that corruption starts at the top and bleeds out to every tentacle they've got stuck in our lives. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

IRS targets conservative groups with additional scrutiny above and beyond anything they do for liberal groups?  Fake scandal.

 

I love the IRS thing. Something that has never been shown as connected to Obama.

 

Organizations with political names trying to register as non profit apolitical organizations think they shouldn't be scrutinized and simply allowed to have a bunch of tax free money.

 

It's almost as if you think republicans haven't done much worse: http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the..._liberals/

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I truly love the "fake scandals" claims. 

 

4 dead Americans in Benghazi?  Fake scandal.

 

IRS targets conservative groups with additional scrutiny above and beyond anything they do for liberal groups?  Fake scandal.

 

Running guns across the southern border in an attempt to try to stoke the flames of gun control, only many of the weapons they shipped across the border illegally turning up at murder scenes, including the death of a US Border Patrol agent.  Fake scandal,.

 

The complete mismanagement of the ObamaCare website while funneling billions into a website that still doesn't work correctly, and has some problems that are so significant that the government has come out and said that up to 1/4 of the "enrolled" in these plans were not qualified to do so, but there's nothing they can do about it.  Fake scandal.

 

Arming al Qaeda, a terrorist organization that just happened to be behind 9/11 in Libya and Syria?  Fake scandal.

 

The list goes on and on.  LIbs come back with the "fake scandal" comments so often that it's pretty much formulaic at this point.  If a republican was in the White House, none of these would be considered fake by the same people who will do anything to cover for their messiah.  It's ignored by the left because he's their guy.  If it's a scandal for one administration, it should be a scandal for any administration.  If this was Bush, I'd be saying the same thing.  There were plenty of issues under his administration that should have  been addressed.  The same is true here as this administration has proven time and time again that corruption starts at the top and bleeds out to every tentacle they've got stuck in our lives. 

I get it you hate liberals and Obama in general. I don't really understand what any of this has to do with the conversation D6 and I were having but ok. 

 

Two things. A conservative brought up Fake Scandals in that conversation I was having. Second, I am much more of a centrist than a liberal. 

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First part: not seeing the change in the US relationship with Israel in your remark.

 

Second part: it must just kill you that Osama got caught on Obama's watch.

 

Unless 0bama was out there in the field actually hunting him down personally, he had about as much to do with that take down as I did.  They had to drag that hero of yours in off the golf course to watch the assault take place, and it took repeated prodding from the real president of this country, Valerie Jarrett before he'd actually ACT on it.  He took credit for the kill despite the fact that it was our heroes on the ground who actually collected the intel over YEARS, and created a plan to go in and get him.  0bama could tell you more about the condition of the greens and fairways  of the course he was on that day than what went into taking down OBL. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Unless 0bama was out there in the field actually hunting him down personally, he had about as much to do with that take down as I did.  They had to drag that hero of yours in off the golf course to watch the assault take place, and it took repeated prodding from the real president of this country, Valerie Jarrett before he'd actually ACT on it.  He took credit for the kill despite the fact that it was our heroes on the ground who actually collected the intel over YEARS, and created a plan to go in and get him.  0bama could tell you more about the condition of the greens and fairways  of the course he was on that day than what went into taking down OBL. 

 

Fox news. 0% of the time, it's right every time.

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I love the IRS thing. Something that has never been shown as connected to Obama.

 

Organizations with political names trying to register as non profit apolitical organizations think they shouldn't be scrutinized and simply allowed to have a bunch of tax free money.

 

It's almost as if you think republicans haven't done much worse: http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the..._liberals/

 

Well, not yet anyway.  They've done a good job of burying that evidence.  Amazing how selective those hard drive crashes are, and how stupid they think the American people are.  Clearly, you believe the bogus excuses, so good on ya. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.