McCain was the reason I walked away from the Republican party.

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Fox news. 0% of the time, it's right every time.

Typical lib response when you really can't refute anything.  It's like Pavlov's dog for you.  FOX NEWS!  FOX NEWS!  BAWK!  BAWK!!

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

McCain was the reason I walked away from the Republican party.

McCain wasn't, and still isn't a republican. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I get it you hate liberals and Obama in general. I don't really understand what any of this has to do with the conversation D6 and I were having but ok. 

 

Two things. A conservative brought up Fake Scandals in that conversation I was having. Second, I am much more of a centrist than a liberal. 

Did you not mention fake scandals?  I'm fairly certain in my quoted post above, you did. 

 

Happy to hear you're a centrist.  Straddling that fence is good for the psyche. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

McCain wasn't, and still isn't a republican. 

 

Well being he was the candidate for the party, I have to disagree. McCain is what the Republican party is today, I'm still "registered" republican but only so I can vote for Rand or Ted in the primaries. Truth is conservatives in the Republican party are a minority and quickly being snuffed out.

 

Best chance conservatives have is to look for a third party closer to their belief in small government, even if it means giving on some social issues.

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I'm not familiar with how Rush railroaded McCain but I do know that Michael Savage caused considerable damage to the McCain-Palin ticket.   There was a time I respected Savage.  But the way he goes 180 degrees on subjects and back,  he can't be trusted.

 

I acknowledged that it was a mistake to put Sarah Palin on the ticket.

 

If Fox wants to keep Shep Smith,  that's their right.   I also have the right to find alternative news sources.  

 

If every other network was fair and balanced,   the presence of Smith and O' Reilly on Fox wouldn't be noticeable.   But with the vast majority of the media at the very least partially to the left,    my preference would be for Fox to be a true Conservative alternative.

Yeah. Rush didn't help the cause at all . He wasn't a fan of Mitt and made it clear. He tried back tracking when he won nomination, but damage was done. He needs a sweaty sock stuffed in his mouth.

Point being...in many cases the infighting beat them...And will again.

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Yeah. Rush didn't help the cause at all . He wasn't a fan of Mitt and made it clear. He tried back tracking when he won nomination, but damage was done. He needs a sweaty sock stuffed in his mouth.

Point being...in many cases the infighting beat them...And will again.

 

It's not infighting it's a fight for the soul of the party. McCain, Bush, Romney, they all represent the neo-conservative push in the Republican party. I applaud Rush, Savage, Jones, and anyone else that picked a fight with these big government Republicans. I only chastise them for back tracking and later giving them support simply because they shared a party name.

 

Sucking it up and going with the party got us the NSA, The Patriot ACT, NDAA, Bank Bailouts, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Common Core and a whole other list of Republican big government programs.

 

Give me a REAL conservative, libertarian or let me stick the final sword in the GOP and let it die. The last thing I want is two parties for big government and that's what we have now.

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McCain was the reason I walked away from the Republican party.

 

 While I'm still a Republican,  I certainly understand you leaving the party because of John McCain.  

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 While I'm still a Republican,  I certainly understand you leaving the party because of John McCain.  

 

Leaving the party is more of sentiment I'm still "registered" republican but I don't consider myself republican anymore. Honestly the republicans make me more mad than the democrats half the time. It's the enemy within that kills you.

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Typical lib response when you really can't refute anything.  It's like Pavlov's dog for you.  FOX NEWS!  FOX NEWS!  BAWK!  BAWK!!

 

When I see something so void of intellectual clarity a humorous retort is the only reasonable response.

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McCain wasn't, and still isn't a republican. 

 

 

Tragically,  these are the type of candidates that the Republican establishment and the media promote for the Republican Party.    They don't represent most of the grass roots supporters of the party like us.  

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Yeah. Rush didn't help the cause at all . He wasn't a fan of Mitt and made it clear. He tried back tracking when he won nomination, but damage was done. He needs a sweaty sock stuffed in his mouth.

Point being...in many cases the infighting beat them...And will again.

 

When making my comment,  I was thinking about the 2008 election.   Regarding 2012,  you are correct.   Having said that,  I would take Rush seriously a million times more than Michael Savage.  The latter is a definition of a phony.  

 

Unfortunately,  I agree that history will probably repeat itself.   

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Instead of debating the topic, you resort to personal attacks.

Says the guy calling Obama the 'community organizer' like that's some kind of insult. And the idea that Obama needs a TelePrompTer after years of having to listen to Bush try to struggle through a complete sentence is almost too ridiculous to comment on. This president is articulate if nothing else.

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Leaving the party is more of sentiment I'm still "registered" republican but I don't consider myself republican anymore. Honestly the republicans make me more mad than the democrats half the time. It's the enemy within that kills you.

 

  An aspect of what far too many Republicans and Republican organizations that bothers me is related to what you mentioned.  Instead of doing everything possible under the law to resist the agenda and tactics the Democrats are using,   they are either comfortable with it and/ or are afraid to truly challenge them.    Sometimes they pretend to resist but it's obviously for show.     Along with his policies,  the other reason why I'm thrilled with Ted Cruz,  is he truly stands up to the opposition.   

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Did you not mention fake scandals?  I'm fairly certain in my quoted post above, you did. 

 

Happy to hear you're a centrist.  Straddling that fence is good for the psyche. 

 

Did you not see the quoted reply in mine where I said that? I was replying to him talking about fake scandals in the original post form D6. Reign in the rage a little bit man. 

 

You are criticizing me for having an open mind when it comes to both sides on policies? Because one can never mingle with the other? I don't have such a myopic view in my political leanings as the parties would like me to have. 

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  An aspect of what far too many Republicans and Republican organizations that bothers me is related to what you mentioned.  Instead of doing everything possible under the law to resist the agenda and tactics the Democrats are using,   they are either comfortable with it and/ or are afraid to truly challenge them.    Sometimes they pretend to resist but it's obviously for show.     Along with his policies,  the other reason why I'm thrilled with Ted Cruz,  is he truly stands up to the opposition.   

 

This congress is least productive in American history. If they were just giving in as you suggest I doubt this would be the case. 

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When making my comment,  I was thinking about the 2008 election.   Regarding 2012,  you are correct.   Having said that,  I would take Rush seriously a million times more than Michael Savage.  The latter is a definition of a phony.  

 

Unfortunately,  I agree that history will probably repeat itself.   

 

Rush supported any candidate that wasn't 0bama in both 2008 and 2012.  He's going to deal with the hand he's dealt, and ultimately the focus in both elections was to win with truly weak candidates. 

 

As far as Michael Savage goes, I can't stand listening to the guy.  As you pointed out, he is all over the place.  Plus, he's got a real infatuation with the other guys on talk radio or on TV.  He's constantly talking about them and trying to blow his numbers up as if he's among the big dogs in radio talk.  He's a 2nd tier guy at best, and one of the more abrasive people on radio.  If you want someone who is concise, genuinely conservative, and a fierce voice for the right, there's the Great One.  He's not for everyone, but he's the most consistent of the bunch.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

This congress is least productive in American history. If they were just giving in as you suggest I doubt this would be the case. 

 

I've heard this before, let me ask, why is it only when congress is passing NEW laws is it considered productive?

 

To me congress is the most productive when it's passing the least laws, heck they could stand to revoke a few !

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Says the guy calling Obama the 'community organizer' like that's some kind of insult. And the idea that Obama needs a TelePrompTer after years of having to listen to Bush try to struggle through a complete sentence is almost too ridiculous to comment on. This president is articulate if nothing else.

An insult would  be to call 0bama what he truly was, which is a community agitator. 

 

This president isn't articulate if he doesn't have someone else's words to read.  I'll take a Bush stumbling through a speech any day over an 0bama who can't go off script without putting his foot in his mouth because you find out who he really is. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Says the guy calling Obama the 'community organizer' like that's some kind of insult. And the idea that Obama needs a TelePrompTer after years of having to listen to Bush try to struggle through a complete sentence is almost too ridiculous to comment on. This president is articulate if nothing else.

 

 

He's articulate  when using a teleprompter.  But there are many times when he sounds anything but articulate when not using a teleprompter.  

 

As for Bush 43,   I'm no fan of his either but he's far less of the evils.   At least Bush 43's less than stellar grades were public knowledge. 

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