Wasn't that the same thing people said about Kaepernick?

 

Fair point, and I remember seeing early footage of Kaepernick in college where he indeed looked thin....but by the time Kaepernick was to be drafted, he had already bulked up/ filled out. 

 

Granted Bridgewater is still only 20. When I was 20. I was barely 170. 

 

Based on how Kaepernick has been playing of late, maybe they were right?  Defenses seem to have him figured out all of a sudden.

 

Well, I think the argument hinges more on his durability than play, but yeah his play of late has been inconsistent. There have been claims of him having trouble reading what defenses are trying to do/ confusing him easily. I read somewhere that Harbaugh has tried to simplify the offense down to the half field thing.....not a good sign. 

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Oddly enough, when I was watching the game last night, I came away with a similar impression of Bridgewater.  He looks smallish.  No doubt, the kid has the arm to make the passes, but I think this "Teddy" hype is possibly a little over the top.  There are some good quarterbacks coming out of college in the draft this year.  I'm not convinced yet that he's the answer for this team.

 

I think what this game has done is at least make everyone take a deep breath and realize that theres a lot of football to be played still a lot of QB prospects to also consider and do due dilligence on before ultimately deciding on one for our team. .....and that Teddy, while good - very good, is not totally in a class of his own. 

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There was one particular play where Bridgewater had pressure coming directly at him and he threw this wounded duck up there and short armed the pass so badly that it was at least 5 yards short of the intended receiver, and darn near intercepted.  And the pressure wasn't really there yet.  He knew he was going to get hit, so he just flicked it out there instead of stepping into it and throwing the ball. 

 

 

 

Yeah, I really didn't like what I saw on that particular play you cite. 

 

Granted, it was only one pass....and to think that other QB don't also have similar instances on their resumes would be foolish...but it might have been the first time I saw a play from Bridgewater that gave me pause. 

 

Teddy could have had 3 INT last night. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how Teddy bounces back next game vs UCF next Friday night. 

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Yeah, I really didn't like what I saw on that particular play you cite.


Granted, it was only one pass....and to think that other QB don't also have similar instances on their resumes would be foolish...but it might have been the first time I saw a play from Bridgewater that gave me pause.


Teddy could have had 3 INT last night.


Looking forward to seeing how Teddy bounces back next game vs UCF next Friday night.

He also made a great throw on a corner route while taking a shot.

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He also made a great throw on a corner route while taking a shot.

 

That he did. Not saying Teddy still didn't play well. I just think many of us, including myself had him so high on the pedestal and needed to see that no, he is not perfect. He's not Manning/ Luck....but still is a very good prospect that we should without a doubt be considering for the top pick. 

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1. Brett Hundley

2. Marcus Mariota

3. Aaron Murray**FAST RISER

4. Jeff Matthews

I don't watch as much college ball as most of the folks around here - but having watched only 2 of Hundley's games - I do think he's a potential franchise QB. 

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I feel like people are concentrating too hard on what Teddy needs to improve on, rather than what he does well. 

 

He's not a finished product.  He's only 20 years old.  In his rookie season, he's going to have some growing pains, just like any rookie quarterback.  That's why it is important to evaluate a player's BODY OF WORK rather than just a single game.

 

He's going to get better and I'm confident that whichever team drafts him is getting a franchise gem at the quarterback position.  He's going to be a stud.  But when he's 20 years old, he's allowed to have an "off" game.  He's not going to throw 5 TD's every single game.  Some throws may sail on him.  That's why you practice and get better.

 

Every single QB that is entering next draft will have some flaws.  If somebody is wary of taking Bridgewater due to "size" or his deep ball inaccuracies -- guess what?  The next qb on the board also has some flaws.  If you keep going down this proverbial latter, sooner or later, you're going to end up drafting a much less talented guy.

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Yeah, I really didn't like what I saw on that particular play you cite. 

 

Granted, it was only one pass....and to think that other QB don't also have similar instances on their resumes would be foolish...but it might have been the first time I saw a play from Bridgewater that gave me pause. 

 

Teddy could have had 3 INT last night. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how Teddy bounces back next game vs UCF next Friday night. 

 

 

You have been drooling over Bridgewater for weeks on this board.

 

Honest question. Was last night the first time you saw him play?

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I feel like people are concentrating too hard on what Teddy needs to improve on, rather than what he does well. 

 

He's not a finished product.  He's only 20 years old.  In his rookie season, he's going to have some growing pains, just like any rookie quarterback.  That's why it is important to evaluate a player's BODY OF WORK rather than just a single game.

 

He's going to get better and I'm confident that whichever team drafts him is getting a franchise gem at the quarterback position.  He's going to be a stud.  But when he's 20 years old, he's allowed to have an "off" game.  He's not going to throw 5 TD's every single game.  Some throws may sail on him.  That's why you practice and get better.

 

Every single QB that is entering next draft will have some flaws.  If somebody is wary of taking Bridgewater due to "size" or his deep ball inaccuracies -- guess what?  The next qb on the board also has some flaws.  If you keep going down this proverbial latter, sooner or later, you're going to end up drafting a much less talented guy.

 

I still see Teddy as a top QB prospect; the top QB prospect.  

 

Just saw some chincks in the armour thats all. As you say - all QB make mistakes. I think Teddy has just been so good of recent, that there was an aire of perfection that was starting to surround him. I think we all needed this game from him to bring us back to earth. 

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You have been drooling over Bridgewater for weeks on this board.

 

Honest question. Was last night the first time you saw him play?

 

I've seen every Bridgewater game this season. 

 

 

....and a few from last season. 

 

 

 

I'll turn that same question around to you, though....I sense "projection" here....:whistling: 

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I think the important thing to remember with Bridgewater is he's not a QB that's 'flashy'.  He's not going to win a Heisman, and he's only in discussion for it because he's currently considered the top QB prospect.  You won't see him put up those 'flashy' numbers.  He just doesn't play in that kind of offense.

 

The season still has to play out, but currently I still believe Bridgewater is the best choice for QB.  I didn't come away from last night's game feeling that he was nothing more than 'pedestrian'.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I think the important thing to remember with Bridgewater is he's not a QB that's 'flashy'.  He's not going to win a Heisman, and he's only in discussion for it because he's currently considered the top QB prospect.  You won't see him put up those 'flashy' numbers.  He just doesn't play in that kind of offense.

 

The season still has to play out, but currently I still believe Bridgewater is the best choice for QB.  I didn't come away from last night's game feeling that he was nothing more than 'pedestrian'.

 

I'm glad he's not going to win the Heisman.....more often than not, QB that win the Heisman in recent history have gone on to be busts in the NFL. 

 

Didn't Geno Toretta win the Heisman? We all know that He who shall not be named, won one, almost 2....

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 I didn't come away from last night's game feeling that he was nothing more than 'pedestrian'.

 

I got a kick out of that, too.

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I don't watch as much college ball as most of the folks around here - but having watched only 2 of Hundley's games - I do think he's a potential franchise QB.

I've seen a bunch of Hundley and I agree. He has tons of potential. Really really like him.

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I'm glad he's not going to win the Heisman.....more often than not, QB that win the Heisman in recent history have gone on to be busts in the NFL. 

 

Didn't Geno Toretta win the Heisman? We all know that He who shall not be named, won one, almost 2....

 

Gina Toretta is "recent history"? He won the Heisman 21 years ago.

 

All kidding aside, the Heisman is more of an MVP trophy than one given to the nation's best player. RGIII is one of the exceptions and he has been good in the NFL. Guys like Toretta, Jason White and Matt Leinart had no business winning.

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I'm glad he's not going to win the Heisman.....more often than not, QB that win the Heisman in recent history have gone on to be busts in the NFL. 

 

Didn't Geno Toretta win the Heisman? We all know that He who shall not be named, won one, almost 2....

 

Not only did Lord Voldemort win one, almost two, but so did:

Sam Bradford

Troy Smith

Matt Leinart

Jason White

Eric Crouch

Chris Weinke

 

There have been some successful ones or at least somewhat successful ones.  But I think college and NFL are just so separate levels that being great at one doesn't mean you'll be good at the other.  There's things you can get away with in college, that you won't in the NFL.  That's why I don't think Johnny Football will make it long in the league.  


Athletes who happen to be Quarterback tend to get figured out in the NFL too.  An NFL Defense will spend so much time breaking down the weaknesses of Athlete QB's (as opposed to QB's who happen to be athletes) that really make them be something they aren't. 

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I've seen a bunch of Hundley and I agree. He has tons of potential. Really really like him.

 

I know it sounds silly but when I see Hundley play, he has "it". I don't know exactly what "it" is but he has it.

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Gina Toretta is "recent history"? He won the Heisman 21 years ago.

 

All kidding aside, the Heisman is more of an MVP trophy than one given to the nation's best player. RGIII is one of the exceptions and he has been good in the NFL. Guys like Toretta, Jason White and Matt Leinart had no business winning.

 

well, by recent NFL history, I indeed was thinking last 25+ years or since Vinny Testaverde won the Heisman (or at least I think he did) ....remember, the NFL has been around since like 1930 or so, so thats the frame of reference I was using by saying "recent NFL history"....

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Well thats just dumb. Because other QB's have failed, we should not take the best available one?

 

Colts definitely should have traded the #1 pick because.... well you know... there is no such thing as a "sure thing." They had a lot of holes after going 2-14 so they should have traded that pick and stockpiled more picks! Genius!

Is that what I said? I meant to say there are no guarantees. There are lot more busts than Lucks.

If you're comparing the Jags situation to the 2-14 Colts, then we have nothing further to discuss. Genius.

Bridgewater is the next Luck? Ok.

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I've now watched a couple of his games to figure out what all the hoopla is about, and the kid throws a decent pass, and he has good pocket presence, but there's just something there I can't quite get excited about with him. I'm not a proponent of using the level of competition as a guide, but I watched the Rutgers game last night, and I came away completely unimpressed. I found it more annoying listening to Palmer and crew constantly blowing him up into some mythical being.


There was one particular play where Bridgewater had pressure coming directly at him and he threw this wounded duck up there and short armed the pass so badly that it was at least 5 yards short of the intended receiver, and darn near intercepted. And the pressure wasn't really there yet. He knew he was going to get hit, so he just flicked it out there instead of stepping into it and throwing the ball.


He can clearly throw all the passes, but I'm wondering how effective he can be when he's getting pounded at the next level on every play? Maybe it's not an issue, but when I'm hearing the analysts talking him up so much, and I see people on this board acting as if he's a once in a decade talent, and then I see what I saw last night, I start to wonder.


My guess is that all the bluster about him being the top QB in the draft will dissipate as we get closer to the combine/pro day window as other QBs start to show their abilities. If we wind up with the first pick, I'm not sold on Bridgewater being the savior for this franchise at QB. We'll see what he does the rest of the way, but against Rutgers, he looked awfully pedestrian.

+1...I feel the same way...

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