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Allen Hurns


Quote:Riley Cooper signed a 5 year / $22.50 million contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $8,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $4,500,000.


Slightly over 5 mil a year and only 8 million is guaranteed. Very reasonable contract. Also the eagles were in a bad situation without much bargaining room. Cooper at the time was their number 1 and at worse the number 2 for this season.


If the rookies pan out, Cecil will have less room to make higher demands from the jaguars.
 

What would be great is if we evaluated what the contracts actually paid when the get torn up or canceled after half the term. Then these 25 million dollar contracts that only pay 18 million would look more reasonable.

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Quote:What would be great is if we evaluated what the contracts actually paid when the get torn up or canceled after half the term. Then these 25 million dollar contracts that only pay 18 million would look more reasonable.


Yeah I was just talking about that with someone the other day. Using Dalton's contract as an example.


No one ever sees the 100 million.


They either get cut, get restructured, or retire. Only so much is guaranteed. They just want that huge number for bragging rights. Its never really that much money being paid out.
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Quote:No, the Cooper contract is more. Its in the same range yes, but Coops was more. 

 

And, typical you - you ignore the fact that Cooper got that deal producing a much smaller sample size of good play than Shorts has. 

 

So, genius.....wouldn't you think that extrapolates to a bigger contract for Shorts?? 

 

Laughing

 

 

You come off so smug and you're just a joke. 
You calling someone else smug is the most adorable thing I have seen on this board. 

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Dude looks like a 1st round draft pick. He's going to be a savage he he continues 


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Quote:Riley Cooper signed a 5 year / $22.50 million contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $8,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $4,500,000.

Slightly over 5 mil a year and only 8 million is guaranteed. Very reasonable contract. Also the eagles were in a bad situation without much bargaining room. Cooper at the time was their number 1 and at worse the number 2 for this season.


If the rookies pan out, Cecil will have less room to make higher demands from the jaguars.
No.  Actually - It's 4.5 mil per year and can only equal 5 mil per year if he meets a number of performance incentives.  His contract fell exactly in line with what I suggested Shorts would be offered.  Not to mention it's back loaded on yearly salary in case he doesn't pan out. 

 

Whatever -  we should definitely be shopping our only proven WR.   Yawn. 

 

I love that we have a gem UDFA in Hurns and I think A robinson will be very good, but it's silly at this point to want so badly to ship out a solid lunch-pail veteran that will give you 800 yards cheaply based on speculation of his impending deal. 

 

Caldwell made a point about stating they would reward their players who buy in and produce with contracts. They did it with Marks. Shorts could be the same if he produces this season. Locking him down to a solid but not extravagant contract before the season ends makes more sense than shopping him IMO.  Obviously he'll have to look good and stay healthy to earn it.  

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Quote:I'm not saying CS3 is a "bum". He's just not worthy of a 2nd/ expensive contract on THIS team right now. We have a competent enough WR corps without him, and could better spend that money in other area of team need. 
Just how expensive do you think he will be? personally I think he gets #3 money which wouldn't be expensive.

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Quote:You calling someone else smug is the most adorable thing I have seen on this board. 
I've seen  TMD called a lot of things but ADORABLE now that's a new one.

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Quote:I've seen  TMD called a lot of things but ADORABLE now that's a new one.
You have to admit... it is kinda cute.  TMD calling anyone smug. LOL. 

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Quote:You have to admit... it is kinda cute.  TMD calling anyone smug. LOL. 
he suckbutts..

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Silly me. I thought this thread was about Hurns.

 

(closes thread)


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Hurns is a gamer
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Quote:He's the next Michael Irvin.  Wears #88 and is from the "U"


It's funny because I was watching last night and was like who the hell is this guy?


Am I missing something? Because the guy looked like a legit number 1.


Tell you something else. The poster I quoted above described him as he looks to me also.
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I know we've see the pre-season receivers who seem to disappear when the regular season starts, but Hurns seems pretty damned legit. I think we struck pay-dirt on this one..


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He's got Mercedes Lewis size but with mor athleticism
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Quote:He's got Mercedes Lewis size but with mor athleticism


Hurns is 6'1. Lewis is 6'5/6'6.... He doesn't have lewis' size.


He's been playing well but let's not get carried away. Michael Irvin? That's crazy. He's been good but keep in mind he knows this offense from college.
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Every game, Blake has got better. But Hurns has, too!

Vs. Bucs: 2 catches, 43 yards

Vs. Bears: 4 catches, 74 yards

Vs. Lions: 7 catches, 113 yards, 1 TD
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Did Hurns start last night?   If not, that was to Henne's detriment. 


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Hurns has looked great so far.  I do think his rapport is better with Bortles and Henne.  So assuming Henne starts, would be to Hurns' detriment.  Plus he'll be down in the WR pecking order assuming the guys in front are healthy.

 

But so far looking like a great find.  Hope he can stay healthy as well.




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Hurns is a gem of a find.  Tremendous asset when we needed help most with all the injuries.  That gave him the opportunity to make this roster, and with authority.


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Quote:Hurns is 6'1. Lewis is 6'5/6'6.... He doesn't have lewis' size.


He's been playing well but let's not get carried away. Michael Irvin? That's crazy. He's been good but keep in mind he knows this offense from college.
 

Yeah, I know.....that comment about Hurns' size was odd. 

 

He does have decent size for the position, but to compare him to Marcedes is beyond way off. 

 

 

I also don't agree with the Irvin comparisons. I mean, maybe its me, but Hurns doesn't seem as if he's overly physical out there which WR like Irvin (and Blackmon) are/ were. 

 

Hurns just seems to be a saavy route runner who has a knack for getting open and does all the little things right. 

 

He has proved (so far) though, that he is indeed tough. He took a helmet to helmet shot and got right back up last night. (I hope that Detroit player gets fined btw - so tired of the poor defensive tackling technique that causes some of these helmet to helmet hits)

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