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BCC breakdown on one of the many reasons our defense is struggling (Poz)


Quote:And some of you are sheep. Get back to me when you grow up and can discuss a topic without resting to this idiocy. ^

 

 Of course Branch warranted some criticism - but there are a half dozen DE's starting in the league right now that did next to nothing in their first two years and grew into productive players. It's not an uncommon scenario for DEs - and many of the BCC regulars refused to consider that an option.  

 

Whatever  - it's not even relevant. 

 

Poz struggles in coverage. We've known this for years.  Next? 
 

Get back to you? You chose to chime in on this conversation, I don't recall ever asking for your opinion on the subject matter.

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Quote:Get back to you? You chose to chime in on this conversation, I don't recall ever asking for your opinion on the subject matter.
LOL.  It's a message board.  That's not how it works.  I'll give my opinion freely whenever I choose. 

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Quote:LOL.  It's a message board.  That's not how it works.  I'll give my opinion freely whenever I choose. 
 

I'm fine with that. At the same time maybe you shouldn't chide others for offering their thoughts as freely as you'd like to offer yours.

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Quote:And some of you are sheep. Get back to me when you grow up and can discuss a topic without resting to this idiocy. ^

 

 Of course Branch warranted some criticism - but there are a half dozen DE's starting in the league right now that did next to nothing in their first two years and grew into productive players. It's not an uncommon scenario for DEs - and many of the BCC regulars refused to consider that an option.  

 

Whatever  - it's not even relevant. 

 

Poz struggles in coverage. We've known this for years.  Next? 
 

Sheep? Who cares if he was writing articles about Andre Branch, that's his opinion, I understand it's not uncommon for DE's to struggle, but there was obviously a negative buzz surrounding Branch considering the August 2013 and the May 2014 FTU articles, I guess they're in on the conspiracy too. You're acting as if the guy was writing weekly articles about Andre, that's far from the case, and really, what does Andre Branch have to do with Poz? I never mentioned Andre Branch to begin with, you guys chose to bring that up.

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(This post was last modified: 09-23-2014, 05:40 PM by badger.)

Quote:In my opinion Poz has never played at a legitimate pro bowl level, but if getting a pro bowl bid Garrard style makes you feel more secure about it then good for you.
You were a Gabbett fan. Lol


He never even sniffed pro bowl consideration, and he was never considered anything but horrible.


Poz has been to the pro bowl and is statistically in the upper part of the league at his position every year. Ya im the crazy one.
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Quote:In my opinion Poz has never played at a legitimate pro bowl level, but if getting a pro bowl bid Garrard style makes you feel more secure about it then good for you.


Looking at his stats last year he was on par with other Pro Bowl linebackers. But again that's your opinion.
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Quote:You were a Gabbett fan. Lol


He never even sniffed pro bowl consideration, and he was never considered anything but horrible.


Poz has been to the pro bowl and is statistically in the upper part of the league at his position every year. Ya im the crazy one.
 

Preferring to see the younger QB over Henne (who has proven me correct in labeling him on the same level as Gabbert this season) doesn't mean I was a fan, I'm just consistent in wanting to go young and bad with the possibility of getting better if the alternative is old and bad with no possibility of getting better.

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[quote name="knarnn" post="302133" timestamp="1411498627"The thing is I know how important he is and what his absence means when he's not on the field. Look no further than week 1 during Sproles 50 yard run.[/quote]We've come to find out the past couple games Sproles would've ran for that touchdown with or without him out there. They all suck even grandpa Poz.

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Quote:Preferring to see the younger QB over Henne (who has proven me correct in labeling him on the same level as Gabbert this season) doesn't mean I was a fan, I'm just consistent in wanting to go young and bad with the possibility of getting better if the alternative is old and bad with no possibility of getting better.


You were the biggest Gabbert fan this boardnhas ever seen. The only one who might be close is jagfan88.


Hilarious that you are denying it.
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Quote:I'm fine with that. At the same time maybe you shouldn't chide others for offering their thoughts as freely as you'd like to offer yours.
 

You're talking to a guy that believes Alfie of BCC has personal vendettas against Jaguar players, and therefore write unreasonable and unfair biased articles about them. Think about that for a second, what incentive does one have to do that?

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Quote:You're talking to a guy that believes Alfie of BCC has personal vendettas against Jaguar players, and therefore write unreasonable and unfair biased articles about them. Think about that for a second, what incentive does one have to do that?
 

I've found NYC to be one of the more reasonable posters here.

 

Even when he steps out of line he is capable of the kind of self reflection that most poster here aren't capable of and can recognize it and correct himself.

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Quote:I've found NYC to be one of the more reasonable posters here.

 

Even when he steps out of line he is capable of the kind of self reflection that most poster here aren't capable of and can recognize it and correct himself.
 

I'll take your word for it.

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I don't think much of Paul. He's a decent middle linebacker. But he doesn't really stand-out too much. He's good against the run, and really suspect in pass coverage. He doesn't really have the quickness nor speed either to get after the QB on an inside pass rush. Here is another thing to look at too. It's mostly the inside linebacker's responsibility to make call adjusments and get his guys in the right places at times. He doesn't really strike me as that kind of guy. He comes off a bit too mild mannered for the position really. With that said, if you plugged him inside on a 3 - 4 defense around some more veterans. He's a stout defender to contend with. With so much youth around him here on defense it's got to be hard at times. But I bet if he was in a system like San Francisco, Houston, Pittsburgh, or maybe Green Bay. This guy would be eating up the running game on his own honestly without worrying about everything else around him so much.


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Quote:I'm fine with that. At the same time maybe you shouldn't chide others for offering their thoughts as freely as you'd like to offer yours.
I don't chide until chided.  I started by simply pointing out something concerning the TE coverage.  Whatever  - it's taken a negative turn. I'll take the high road. 

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Quote:I don't chide until chided.  I started by simply pointing out something concerning the TE coverage.  Whatever  - it's taken a negative turn. I'll take the high road. 
 

I like your maturity NYC4jags, I'll take the high road as well.

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Quote:Sheep? Who cares if he was writing articles about Andre Branch, that's his opinion, I understand it's not uncommon for DE's to struggle, but there was obviously a negative buzz surrounding Branch considering the August 2013 and the May 2014 FTU articles, I guess they're in on the conspiracy too. You're acting as if the guy was writing weekly articles about Andre, that's far from the case, and really, what does Andre Branch have to do with Poz? I never mentioned Andre Branch to begin with, you guys chose to bring that up.
It got out of hand. Apologies for whatever weirdness. I never said "conspiracy" and in fact distinguished between that word and "agenda."  Don't know who brought up Branch - but I shouldn't have contributed to that part of the derailing. 

 

I enjoy about a third of the content at BCC - have chatted with Alfie and have zero issues personally.   Just happen to disagree on a few stances. It's not a big deal.  I'm sure we can all let this thread return to the LB situation in peace, right? 


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Quote:Funny you jumped in the conversation. You still stomping your feet mad that a linebacker cant run step for step with a borderline HoF WR?
A WR that's damn near 50 coming off an acl tear or whatever ligament it was? That's too much to ask your supposed to be best player on defense to tackle him running right by you? You're funny as hell. I guess all his duties consist of calling out plays and stuffing a run gap for you.

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Quote:It got out of hand. Apologies for whatever weirdness. I never said "conspiracy" and in fact distinguished between that word and "agenda."  Don't know who brought up Branch - but I shouldn't have contributed to that part of the derailing. 

 

I enjoy about a third of the content at BCC - have chatted with Alfie and have zero issues personally.   Just happen to disagree on a few stances. It's not a big deal.  I'm sure we can all let this thread return to the LB situation in peace, right? 
 

I'm all for peace sir, let's do it.

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Poz is slightly above average. Nothing more nothing less. Dude can play but is a major liablity in pass coverage. He also isn't very fast. If his instincts are wrong then the big play will happen.


Nonetheless he is one of the better middle line backers in the league.
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Quote:A WR that's damn near 50 coming off an acl tear or whatever ligament it was? That's too much to ask your supposed to be best player on defense to tackle him running right by you? You're funny as hell. I guess all his duties consist of calling out plays and stuffing a run gap for you.


Obviously you don't follow football much. There are maybe 2 or 3 middle linebackers in the entire league that can run step for step with ANY WR. Even "50 year old" Reggie Wayne, who by the way doesn't play like someone coming off an ACL injury.
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