What? Michigan is hardly a top 5 program right now. They're borderline top 10 honestly. 

 

I meant to say in revenue. They are FARR from at top 5 program right now.

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Even though Michigan is having a nightmarish season and hasn't seriously contended for a National Title since the Lloyd Carr days,  this is a program that can realistically get back to at least top 10 status in the next 2 or 3 years.   Michigan has the financial resources,  income stream,  and history to attract a top level Head Coach.    Much like Ohio State,  Alabama,  and Florida State made great coaching hires that turned their programs around after taking steps backward,   I believe Michigan has a good chance to do the same.   

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I meant to say in revenue. They are FARR from at top 5 program right now.

 

I think most Big Ten schools are ranked high in revenue because of the Big Ten Network. But it has not translated onto the field.

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I think most Big Ten schools are ranked high in revenue because of the Big Ten Network. But it has not translated onto the field.

 

Strawman.

 

Read D6's post and argue with him if you choose. He summed up the reason why Michigan's program is still relevant, despite putting out a terrible product lately.

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Strawman.

 

Read D6's post and argue with him if you choose. He summed up the reason why Michigan's program is still relevant, despite putting out a terrible product lately.

 

You're the one that brought up revenue.

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You're the one that brought up revenue.

 

Because revenue is directly related to relevancy and ability to hire coaches. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

Do you have any issue with what D6 said? Because that coincides with what I'm saying.

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Because revenue is directly related to relevancy and ability to hire coaches. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

Do you have any issue with what D6 said? Because that coincides with what I'm saying.

 

Is it any different than when they hired Hoke two years ago or Rodriguez five years ago?

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Hoke keeping in a QB who may have had a concussion was the Ex-Lax smooth move of Saturday. In this day and age, what a moron.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
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I hope Michigan can somehow lure Harbaugh to Michigan.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
;
; "This is really good, you want a bite, Honey?"

I hope Michigan can somehow lure Harbaugh to Michigan.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
;
; "This is really good, you want a bite, Honey?"

Because revenue is directly related to relevancy and ability to hire coaches. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

Do you have any issue with what D6 said? Because that coincides with what I'm saying.

 

You are doing your best to say Michigan is relevant, but they aren't.  We are talking college football here, not revenue and fan base.

 

I would tell someone to have a discussion with D6 as well.  At least he brings up good points.

 

Am I stalking again?  LOL

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I hope Michigan can somehow lure Harbaugh to Michigan.

I think they have a better shot at Jim with the situation in San Fran and the clash of personalities.  Jim may be a bit rough around the edges...didnt he have some issues while at Stanford as well?

 

Doesn't matter...winning cures all.

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Even though Michigan is having a nightmarish season and hasn't seriously contended for a National Title since the Lloyd Carr days,  this is a program that can realistically get back to at least top 10 status in the next 2 or 3 years.   Michigan has the financial resources,  income stream,  and history to attract a top level Head Coach.    Much like Ohio State,  Alabama,  and Florida State made great coaching hires that turned their programs around after taking steps backward,   I believe Michigan has a good chance to do the same.   

 

Alabama/Florida/Florida state turned their programs around, but the cupboard wasnt as bear as it was in Michigan.  Those teams also had pretty good quarterbacks at the time.

 

I think Micigan may be further than 2-3 years away, but I agree with what you say.

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Josh, you may not be stalking but it's the same posters constantly being the antagonists in threads I post in. Call it what you want.


Anyways, D6 brought up several of the same points I did as to why Michigan, as a program, is relevant. Much like the Indiana Hoosiers are still relevant in college basketball despite being terrible lately.

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Alabama/Florida/Florida state turned their programs around, but the cupboard wasnt as bear as it was in Michigan. Those teams also had pretty good quarterbacks at the time.


I think Micigan may be further than 2-3 years away, but I agree with what you say.

I agree that Michigan is probably more than 2/4 years away from competitive again. That isn't what I meant by being relevant. All I'm saying is that, despite being terrible, Michigan hasn't fallen off the CFB map.

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The term relevant has two different meanings when it comes to this thread.

 

Michigan is only relevant in terms of it's past and tradition.

 

In terms of impact on the game and what is being done on the field, which in the end is all that matters, they are irrelevant, and they have been for quite some time.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
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; "This is really good, you want a bite, Honey?"

Josh, you may not be stalking but it's the same posters constantly being the antagonists in threads I post in. Call it what you want.


Anyways, D6 brought up several of the same points I did as to why Michigan, as a program, is relevant. Much like the Indiana Hoosiers are still relevant in college basketball despite being terrible lately.

 

Most people are disagreeing with you here only because the main point on why they are relevant is because of the dollar value they may be worth.

 

In terms of pure football, their relevancy is diminishing.  The same can be said for Texas and UF as well.  They bring in tons of money, but on the field their relevance is being lost.  College football is more about the head coach, and until those teams fix that problem, they will continue to flounder.

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Ok I don't disagree with that. We have different ideas of relevant.


Trav summed it up pretty good.

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I hope Michigan can somehow lure Harbaugh to Michigan.

 

I wouldnt be surprised at the least bit. He was toast before the season began in San Fran.

 

He would be treated like God if he goes back to Michigan and revive that program to the Bo Schembechler days while he was there.

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

Alabama/Florida/Florida state turned their programs around, but the cupboard wasnt as bear as it was in Michigan.  Those teams also had pretty good quarterbacks at the time.

 

I think Micigan may be further than 2-3 years away, but I agree with what you say.

 

While the next couple of recruiting classes are critical for Michigan,   it wouldn't surprise me a high caliber new coaching staff got noticeably more out of the current returning 2015 players on Michigan's roster than the coaching staff that's in place at present.   

 

Nick Saban is almost certainly not coming to Michigan.   But for discussion sake Michigan was able to get a Nick Saban caliber HC for 2015,    at the very least I think that it will get the ball rolling for a major long term turnaround.   You might be proven correct that Michigan is further away than 2 to 3 years from being a top 10 team.   One thing that could aid Michigan relatively quickly though is the Big Ten is far from a top level conference.    It's not like the SEC where there are many teams you have to overtake to get to a top 10 level.   

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