And Auburn. I would wager FSU would lose to at least 2 of those 3 teams. FSU gets their chance to prove me wrong this week, but they have really looked underwhelming this season

ND ? They're average at best. FSU should will kill them.

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I gotta say that they made the right decision moving Miss State to #1.. That said, If FSU gets a win against ND next weekend, they should reclaim it.. 

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Ehhh doesn't matter and not ed vendors worth arguing. It'll work itself out.

Very true. 1-4, doesn't matter in the end really. 1 v 4, 2 v 3. Going to play the best regardless

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So why isn't Ole Miss #2?

Because as much as I believe that Ole Miss has made a good argument that they too deserve a #1 ranking, dropping the defending champs after a win two spots down is a bit unfair. Things will be sorted out come December.

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"Expect for the best. Prepare for the worst. Capitalize on what comes."

 

Because as much as I believe that Ole Miss has made a good argument that they too deserve a #1 ranking, dropping the defending champs after a win two spots down is a bit unfair. Things will be sorted out come December.

 

What would be unfair is dropping FSU two spots in favor a team that was idle Saturday.

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Who in the top 3 was idle this past week?

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"Expect for the best. Prepare for the worst. Capitalize on what comes."

 

Who in the top 3 was idle this past week?

 

Someone said MSU will be idle next weekend.

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Can someone explain how Ohio State moved up to #13 in both polls without playing? I double-checked their schedule last week and did not see a game on October 11. If you don't play, you should not jump that far in the polls.

 

Of course, I am not complaining. It is nice to see my favorite team in the Top 15 again.

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The polls shouldn't reflect who you think would win, but rather who has been the most impressive or earned the most. Not always the same thing. I still think Alabama beats both Mississippi teams the majority of the time, but they deserve to be ahead of the Tide based on results.

 

For comparing FSU to MSU and Ole Miss that means the question of who you think would win is really irrelevant. Who has done the most THIS YEAR to earn the top spot? As such, got to go with the rankings as they stand. People aren't giving FSU enough credit for the week 1 win against Oklahoma State who has turned out to be much better than people expected. Also, when you're #1 it's harder to win as impressively because teams usually play against you as hyped up as they will be all year and the #1 team can't replicate that emotion every week. That said, nothing the Noles have done compare to the past three wins MSU has. So MSU #1 for now, then FSU, then Ole Miss. Makes perfect sense.

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The polls shouldn't reflect who you think would win, but rather who has been the most impressive or earned the most. Not always the same thing. I still think Alabama beats both Mississippi teams the majority of the time, but they deserve to be ahead of the Tide based on results.


For comparing FSU to MSU and Ole Miss that means the question of who you think would win is really irrelevant. Who has done the most THIS YEAR to earn the top spot? As such, got to go with the rankings as they stand. People aren't giving FSU enough credit for the week 1 win against Oklahoma State who has turned out to be much better than people expected. Also, when you're #1 it's harder to win as impressively because teams usually play against you as hyped up as they will be all year and the #1 team can't replicate that emotion every week. That said, nothing the Noles have done compare to the past three wins MSU has. So MSU #1 for now, then FSU, then Ole Miss. Makes perfect sense.

You think this alabama team beats miss state and ole miss most of the time? Completely disagree.

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You think this alabama team beats miss state and ole miss most of the time? Completely disagree.

Agreeing with jtmoney, again.

 

Both Mississippi schools are really good. Both defenses are the real deal. Ole Miss has the best front four in college football, and as a unit, Miss. St is one of, if not the best right now. Both have very good QB's, though I give Miss. St. a slight edge there.

 

Bama stayed in the game with Ole Miss on a horrible no call for a TD right before half. Ole Miss owned Bama for the most part that night.

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Agreeing with jtmoney, again.


Both Mississippi schools are really good. Both defenses are the real deal. Ole Miss has the best front four in college football, and as a unit, Miss. St is one of, if not the best right now. Both have very good QB's, though I give Miss. St. a slight edge there.


Bama stayed in the game with Ole Miss on a horrible no call for a TD right before half. Ole Miss owned Bama for the most part that night.

What in the hell is going on around here?


Yeah, miss state is the only team I would call elite right now.

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I'd call that selective memory. It was a tight game where neither team "owned" the other. Ole Miss was completely ineffective on the ground and that means you have to go with a riskier offense. Ole Miss in that game had no turnovers from the passing game. In their other 5 games they had 6 interceptions. A lot of people really fail to internalize that turnovers are more luck than skill. Even if you pressure the QB you have to get lucky that he throws to where a defender can get it instead of missing in a spot that people can't make a catch. Forcing fumbles is a skill. Having a ball carrier fail to protect the ball properly and getting them to bounce to your guys is luck.

 

Ole Miss has forced 16 turnovers and lost 10 this year.

 

Alabama has forced 8 and lost 11.

 

Kentucky has forced 16 and lost 8.

 

FIU has forced 24 and lost 13.

 

Turnovers forced have been shown over and over to be a non-predictive statistic meaning that it's not something you can count on week to week. In the big game, Alabama had 2 turnovers and Ole Miss had 1. If that had gone the other way is there anyone that thinks Alabama doesn't win? Not to mention, the game was at Ole Miss.

 

For those trying to spin what I'm saying, I'm not saying Ole Miss didn't earn the win. When the turnover roulette comes up your way you still have to make the interception or hustle for the fumble, but I am saying that games where turnovers play a significant role in the outcome, especially close games, are not good predictors of future games.

 

Both Mississippi schools ARE really good. They've also benefited from a little bit of luck. They've earned top rankings. They are not one of the all time greats and there are teams with just as much front-line talent and more depth. Not many, but some.

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Alabama should have never got a turnover against Ole Miss. Watch the replay of that and you will see what im talking about. It is hard for some to admit that two mid tier teams from a year ago have actually made the jump to legit contenders this year

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"Expect for the best. Prepare for the worst. Capitalize on what comes."

 

Alabama should have never got a turnover against Ole Miss. Watch the replay of that and you will see what I'm talking about. It is hard for some to admit that two mid-tier teams from a year ago have actually made the jump to legit contenders this year.

 

I assume some of the people who dispute that fact are either Alabama fans or Ole Miss haters. But Alabama was an elite team last year, so I don't know what you mean by two mid-tier teams.

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Legit contenders? Yes. They have a decent shot to beat anyone in the country home or away. Definitely two of the top ten teams in the country, maybe in the top five.

 

Better than Alabama, FSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Oregon on a neutral site to be the top contenders? No.

 

Best victories so far this year? Yes, they've earned the #1 ranking. You can do that even when you're not the best team.

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I'd call that selective memory. It was a tight game where neither team "owned" the other. Ole Miss was completely ineffective on the ground and that means you have to go with a riskier offense. Ole Miss in that game had no turnovers from the passing game. In their other 5 games they had 6 interceptions. A lot of people really fail to internalize that turnovers are more luck than skill. Even if you pressure the QB you have to get lucky that he throws to where a defender can get it instead of missing in a spot that people can't make a catch. Forcing fumbles is a skill. Having a ball carrier fail to protect the ball properly and getting them to bounce to your guys is luck.

 

Ole Miss has forced 16 turnovers and lost 10 this year.

 

Alabama has forced 8 and lost 11.

 

Kentucky has forced 16 and lost 8.

 

FIU has forced 24 and lost 13.

 

Turnovers forced have been shown over and over to be a non-predictive statistic meaning that it's not something you can count on week to week. In the big game, Alabama had 2 turnovers and Ole Miss had 1. If that had gone the other way is there anyone that thinks Alabama doesn't win? Not to mention, the game was at Ole Miss.

 

For those trying to spin what I'm saying, I'm not saying Ole Miss didn't earn the win. When the turnover roulette comes up your way you still have to make the interception or hustle for the fumble, but I am saying that games where turnovers play a significant role in the outcome, especially close games, are not good predictors of future games.

 

Both Mississippi schools ARE really good. They've also benefited from a little bit of luck. They've earned top rankings. They are not one of the all time greats and there are teams with just as much front-line talent and more depth. Not many, but some.

Throw all kind of numbers around you want. I will believe what I saw with my eyes in the game with Alabam vs. Ole Miss.

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Legit contenders? Yes. They have a decent shot to beat anyone in the country home or away. Definitely two of the top ten teams in the country, maybe in the top five.


Better than Alabama, FSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Oregon on a neutral site to be the top contenders? No.


Best victories so far this year? Yes, they've earned the #1 ranking. You can do that even when you're not the best team.

Alabama isn't that good this year. They should have loss to arkansas. Notre Dame almost lost to north carolina. Just not sure what you are watching. And by not good, I don't think they are a top 10 team.

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Wow, 10 teams out there better than Alabama and Notre Dame? I'd love to hear about them.

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Wow, 10 teams out there better than Alabama and Notre Dame? I'd love to hear about them.

Michigan State, Oklahoma, TCU and even Georgia could certainly make a case. Not saying Alabama couldn't either, but I just don't think Bama is that good. And not sure what you have been seeing with Notre Dame.

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