i don't remember anyone ever saying he was meant to be our cornerstone CB.

Because it was never said.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

You could also view it as Caldwell hitting a home run in the 7th round rather than failing in the 3rd. Whichever way it turns out, they are both Caldwell picks - let the best man win.

That's what I'm saying. Just let the competition continue and if your young promising CB is being outplayed by a 7th rounder, so be it. People were saying gratz was a beast. Obviously that's not the case in year 2.

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You could also view it as Caldwell hitting a home run in the 7th round rather than failing in the 3rd. Whichever way it turns out, they are both Caldwell picks - let the best man win.

 

I agree with the above. Besides, the Gratz pick was likely heavily influenced by Bradley. 

 

Really. Please check all the gratz threads before this season. He's good, he wears Mathis old number. The list goes on. Boy am I getting beat up today, lol. I'll see you tomorrow?

 

This I will agree with. There was so many people championing Gratz it was ridiculous. I was one of the only ones saying he sucked. 

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<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/HaysCarlyon'>Hays Carlyon ‏@HaysCarlyon </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/HaysCarlyon/status/522799897184309249' title="10:23 AM - 16 Oct 2014">11m11 minutes ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14.2857141494751px;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);"><a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#Jaguars</a> special teams coordinator Mike Mallory put 59-yard FG block more on Scobee: "It wasn't the hit that we'd like."

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Really. Please check all the gratz threads before this season. He's good, he wears Mathis old number. The list goes on. Boy am I getting beat up today, lol. I'll see you tomorrow?

I thought you were referring to Caldwell making those comments. Who cares what the MB posters say lol.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Really. Please check all the gratz threads before this season. He's good, he wears Mathis old number. The list goes on. Boy am I getting beat up today, lol. I'll see you tomorrow?

 

Wearing #27 means absolutely nothing about his potential. It is just a number. Rashean Mathis was demoted to nickel back in his last season with us.

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I agree with the above. Besides, the Gratz pick was likely heavily influenced by Bradley. 

 

Sure thing Bruh. Don't hijack my thread.

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<p style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14.2857141494751px;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">#Jaguars special teams coordinator Mike Mallory put 59-yard FG block more on Scobee: "It wasn't the hit that we'd like."

 

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Does our ST's coaching (Mallory) realize that a 55 yarder is not a high percetage kick??? :wacko:

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This I will agree with. There was so many people championing Gratz it was ridiculous. I was one of the only ones saying he sucked.

This I agree with. You did say he wasn't all that, and every on thrashed you for it. You start a lot of "controversy" with others, but most of the time you are right. I think the problem is our fan based is so starved for good players, we see someone and glorify them. Of course this is NOT the case with BB.  He's good, and will be ELITE.  Yeah I said it.

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Babich says Telvin Smith progressing well as nickel LB, but that they don't want to expand his role yet. <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'><span style="color:rgb(102,181,210);">#
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I hope it keeps up because we need a LB out there that can make plays on passing downs

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Sure thing Bruh. Don't hijack my thread.

 

That wasnt' the intent. Just for the record, you do understand that coaches do have influence on different draft picks, right? Just answer yes or no. 

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<p style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14.2857141494751px;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">#Jaguars special teams coordinator Mike Mallory put 59-yard FG block more on Scobee: "It wasn't the hit that we'd like."

 

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He actually said 59 yard? LOL

 

Bryan Anger said it was a good kick and they have to watch film to see what went wrong. Gus Bradley said it was a combination of Scobee kicking low and the offensive line not protecting him.

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I hope it keeps up because we need a LB out there that can make plays on passing downs

 

I was expecting more out of Telvin by now. He's been one of the disappointments. 

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I hope it keeps up because we need a LB out there that can make plays on passing downs

 

Agreed, the way he closed on McCluster(?) last week was a thing of beauty.

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I was expecting more out of Telvin by now. He's been one of the disappointments.

He's made some key plays though from side line to side line bc of his speed. If he gained a little muscle would he still be effective?

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Does our STs coaching (Mallory) realize that a 55 yarder is not a high percetage kick?

 

If Bradley says it was a low kick, he must have gotten that information from Mallory. We are talking about a kicker with a high percentage of success over 50 yards.

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I agree with the above. Besides, the Gratz pick was likely heavily influenced by Bradley. 

 

 

This I will agree with. There was so many people championing Gratz it was ridiculous. I was one of the only ones saying he sucked. 

 

i think the mccray pick was likely heavily influenced by bradley.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Agreed, the way he closed on McCluster(?) last week was a thing of beauty.

 

meh, ok

 

He's made some key plays though from side line to side line bc of his speed. If he gained a little muscle would he still be effective?

 

Thats the $64,000 question

 

Speed/ quickness is his best asset. Added weight/ muscle could be a detriment. 

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I was expecting more out of Telvin by now. He's been one of the disappointments. 

 

How is he disappointing you? He is playing more than I expected as a backup.

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How is he disappointing you? He is playing more than I expected as a backup.

 

I expected him to be starting and looking promising in that role by now. (almost mid season)

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